norrona

so just cos YOU don't celebrate Christmas and the joy of giving gifts you expect everyone else not to?

Are you a follower of Islam or something?

the secret Santa is just a way of people interacting with each other, surely interaction is good for your children no?

It appears you have missed the point. Requiring or asking is essentially the same; you are expecting Thai children's parents to buy Chrustmas gifts. That is forcing one's cultural tradition on another culture.

My club support a local school for blind children. We give our gifts at Christmas. Several falangs said, "Thais don't celebrate Christmas." We were quite surprised the first year we delivered the gifts, the chldren gave us a spendid rendition of several of the most popular Christsmas songs--and all the teachers and administrators at the school are Thai, many of them Muslims. However, this is a very different issue, we are donating gifts to the children, not asking them, or their parents, for anything.

does my last sentence mean absolutely nothing to you?

so just cos YOU don't celebrate Christmas and the joy of giving gifts you expect everyone else not to?

Are you a follower of Islam or something?

the secret Santa is just a way of people interacting with each other, surely interaction is good for your children no?

He might be Jewish, he may be of another faith that doesn't celebrate Xmas, he may be atheist,

Your rather bigoted don't you think accusing him of being a follower of Islam

Christianity..... Yes the cult of brotherly love and tolerance being really shown in this post

It was only a question.....not an accusation, why so touchy?

so just cos YOU don't celebrate Christmas and the joy of giving gifts you expect everyone else not to?

Are you a follower of Islam or something?

the secret Santa is just a way of people interacting with each other, surely interaction is good for your children no?

So Christmas is the "joy of giving gifts" is it................

I'd send my kids with an empty shallow box representing "Christmas", hey its the thought that counts.

If your life is empty and shallow then your gift will represent that I suppose

I reckon the OP has pink eye by now

ha ha ha....at least you've kept your sense of humor, but not a clue on what happened

I understand that, but people do generalize.

Look at the bad rep Russians get on here, and most of them are pleasant people.

I was talking to a thai guy about English football and he told me all the fans are hooligans and like to fight.

Which goes to show a few bad apples can sway opinions.

you should have mentioned about the mass brawl at Pattaya United not so long ago.....or the Thai party for a Japanese company that ended up in a full on riot with someone shot not so long ago either....

but yes I am a West Ham supporter and liked a good old tear up in my youth

on topic it's no 1 nationality that does this...you go towards the borders of Thailand and take a public bus with the farm folk on there thai people can make a mean smell but like a lot of things they choose not to admit it

Many of the answers are related to growing a pair, and insist it is the Falang's right to be a dictator over the Thai household, I do not do anything different in Thailand than I did back in the old country, what worked for me then works for me now!

I view visitors as a blessing, people with whom you can share your hospitality with, to have a good time and offer then the same liberties they offer you when you visit them. I appreciate my wife's family that have never caused me problems and are extremely helpful in any thing we do, I have certainly gain more from them, than I have given to them. Why is a wife's family to be viewed differently in Thailand, then how you interact with the wife family in the home country, to me there is no difference as I by marrying my wife I agreed to become a part of her family and she a part of mine.

Those that are control freaks, that dictate who can come to their house, who your wife can associates with or whomever must have the final say on any issue in their relationship, does not mean you have a pair, it only means you did a very poor job in marrying a women you do not trust.

My wife is my equal and we share everything we have together, including decision making as it is our house and our lives that we share. Her family is my family, her daughters are my daughters in a life we share together. I in Thailand do just as I did in the home country, and reserve a part of our house for my privacy, where I can work or relax without interruptions, worked good for me in the old country works for me here.

Sharing is the cornerstone of a successful marriage and my wife ideas/input to me is more important that anyone else, and it works great for us.

Cheers.

If that works for you then great.....by the way you say you share everything with the wife? Even the bills? the building of the home costs?

If so has she got a sister

I share everything with my Thai wife as I did with my wife back in the home country. I unlike many of the control freaks that have posted, treat my Thai wife with the same love and respect I treated my other wife with, there is not one bit of difference, she is my wife.

Now ask me if my wife in the home country shared the bill's and building of the house cost, or how a gold digger back in the home country ended up with the house in a US divorce court?

Every thing that Falang's state about the foolishness of building a house for your wife and family, and your inability to own that house in Thailand! Happened to me in the home country, on a much bigger cost of financial loss.

The income I have is considered Family income the same as my income was considered for the 20 years i had my stay at home wife in the states! If you do things differently that is up to you and how you deal with your situation!

Why do you not just leave it at "If that works for you great"

Cheers

it is indeed great that this works for you....

however you didn't answer the question, you proceeded to go on the attack about your ex farang wife who rinsed you of your property back in the US, was she the mother of your children, did you cheat on her, if she never worked when you met her....then she isn't going to start once you marry her...

you are in no better or worse position than you were back in the US if you have married, have children and bought/built a house in Thailand....you could lose it all again in the blink of an eye....

so basically you have an income and you share it with your thai wife....if that works for you then that is indeed great

haven't read the whole thread but get the gist....the thing is they will tell your gf/wife if you are cheating on them and take great pleasure from it as it makes them feel superior about their mostly sorry lives that are full of what ifs and regrets....

but they wouldn't tell you if your gf/wife was shagging about behind your back...or plotting to have you executed for monetary gain.

you will never be accepted by these people....simply tolerated

as has already been pointed out the overseas visitors/family can be just as bad....my brother came to stay with me one Christmas for 2 weeks....he eventually left in March, but I love him so I allowed it and up till the end enjoyed his company....

then a mate said he was all partied out and can he come stay with me to chill.... he didn't chill and when he brought 2 girls back to the house and one of them wasn't for me I told him to go check back into the hotel, especially when they had bags of food and thought they were going to consume that cack in my guest bedroom, I still remember the girls scowling at me when they were leaving...

as I have said before, if you are all soppy and go round saying mai pen rai and embrace the culture and all that <deleted> then you will get taken advantage of....some people like that so up to them

Take the batteries out of the remotes and put a password on the computer and as soon as they arrive go out and come back next morning!

I sound like a bit of an ogre perhaps, but now my wife respects my wishes.....

Perhaps my trick is ME!

I have to laugh at how pathetic people like you are. You are the reason why foreigners in Thailand get a bad reputation.

The stereotypical fat old farang who marries a bargirl and cannot speak a word of thai outside of "checkbin krap"

Then to make matters worse you can't even integrate into your own family? I couldn't even imagine treating family like you do at home. Can't even look after guests (your family no less).

You want to know why you are not accepted in Thailand and why your family treat your house like crap when they visit? Because you are an ignorant self-absorbed <deleted> that has no consideration to put any effort into Thailand, Thai Culture, or your Family.

The worst part is you are oblivious to this and sit up on your high horse and just think you are above them, and it is just their fault for being Thai.

I've never had guests or family act like this, but then again I don't live my life like you do, and I treat people the way I would like to be treated..

I got news for you my friend....you are tolerated and never will be accepted! deal with it and get off your high horse

Many of the answers are related to growing a pair, and insist it is the Falang's right to be a dictator over the Thai household, I do not do anything different in Thailand than I did back in the old country, what worked for me then works for me now!

I view visitors as a blessing, people with whom you can share your hospitality with, to have a good time and offer then the same liberties they offer you when you visit them. I appreciate my wife's family that have never caused me problems and are extremely helpful in any thing we do, I have certainly gain more from them, than I have given to them. Why is a wife's family to be viewed differently in Thailand, then how you interact with the wife family in the home country, to me there is no difference as I by marrying my wife I agreed to become a part of her family and she a part of mine.

Those that are control freaks, that dictate who can come to their house, who your wife can associates with or whomever must have the final say on any issue in their relationship, does not mean you have a pair, it only means you did a very poor job in marrying a women you do not trust.

My wife is my equal and we share everything we have together, including decision making as it is our house and our lives that we share. Her family is my family, her daughters are my daughters in a life we share together. I in Thailand do just as I did in the home country, and reserve a part of our house for my privacy, where I can work or relax without interruptions, worked good for me in the old country works for me here.

Sharing is the cornerstone of a successful marriage and my wife ideas/input to me is more important that anyone else, and it works great for us.

Cheers.

If that works for you then great.....by the way you say you share everything with the wife? Even the bills? the building of the home costs?

If so has she got a sister

where can we view the video?

I honestly cant believe some of the replies on here.

Where TF did some of you guys meet your partners?

Seperate fridges, seperate rooms, <deleted> is a "man cave"?

Locks on doors, unbelievable, Jeez do what a Thai man would do, grow a pair and sort this crap out, or give her the money for a taxi to Mor Chit bus station and the bus fare back to Nakon Nowhwere.

Makes me appreciate just what a treasure my wife is, guess she must really be different.

I agree with everything apart from the fridges bit....some of that thai cack is men mak mak and makes me heave....keep it away from my steaks and ham off the bone

I live in our bedroom. I have my computer and a tv if I ever want to watch it(I dont) and I go downstairs to eat or go out. If the wife relatives show up I will mix with them as they are mostly nice people and they like my cooking, they rarely stay even for one night which is good. On the other hand her half sister comes here and bludges for days on end, she does not cook, wash or do any thing around the house, she eats everything she can find including my aussie food I put away for myself. We only see her when she is fighting with her thai husband(she is a bar girl & second wife) or she wants money tp give to her husband so he can drink and give the rest to his first wife.My solution is simple, like one poster above I pack my bags and ask my wife to drive me to a hotel, this gets an immediate response of she will leave today, in fact we rarely see her now and that is fine by me.

My wife's niece came to stay for a month, while she worked with my wife. She did nothing but watch tv in the house and never even washed the dishes, despite contributing nothing fiancially and eating my wife's food.

When she asked to stay another month, I agreed providing she washed the dishes and tidied the house/ outside. I don't know if my wife passed that on, but she still did nothing for the second month.

My nephew ate everything he liked in my fridge ( wife and I have seperate fridges )despite being told not to eat my food, so in the end I put a chain and padlock around it.

He also used any of my tools he wanted to fix his m'bike and left them lying around outside when he left ( along with all his rubbish ), so I had to lock them in the bedroom whenever he came to stay. I also refused to pick up his rubbish- if she wouldn't make him tidy after himself, she had to do it.

You have separate fridges?? Wow what a loving relationship.

Are you insinuating that we have a bad relationship because we use different fridges? Pretty weird opinion if you are!

We both have enough food to fill a fridge each, so just have seperate fridges.

2 small fridges are cheaper than the really big fridges on the market.

plus some of the stinky stuff will most certainly taint your imported stuff.....

is a funny one and as much as my family and friends who visited used to question me on it as being un-friendly or a bit rude I would always carry myself as someone who was very sure of himself with regards to the family and Thai people who were doing work for me... they take kindness as weakness and if you are too kind and tolerant then essentially they will see you as a chump who puts up and shuts up....is good to give them a blast every now and then....

and no way would I lock myself in my bedroom unless it suited me!

Rod Stewart could answer this question.....

I would go by the thoughts that typically it is the woman's prerogative to get pregnant if her man is wealthy and her future looks comfortable....at least that's why my ex wife stopped taking the pill and didn't bother to tell me...when questioned and asked why it was all her mothers fault as she had been in her ear...no we didn't have a baby, thank god

Don't worry, when people wake up they will post.

Remember, the vast majority of experts on TV are not even in Thailand, so the time differences means they will start their posting in a few hours time.

when the majority of people are in Thailand then I would like to think they are having too good a time to be on a forum conversing with others who are not even there.....

learn in Thai and go up to the woman and supposed owner and say very quietly to her these 2 words.....

Prove it!

yes by my then Australian business partner who when we had a disagreement and I told him I am out he went to the Pattaya police and paid them along with the danish Mr Burns lookalike to concoct a story that I had stolen from him.....

they came to the apartment I was living in on Saturday morning @7am with a warrant, searched the whole place and started looking at title deeds and bank books whilst I was in hand cuffs in my pants.....we got down the station and my lawyer was on his way, it was this time that a strange swiss pretend lawyer came into the room and tried to wind me up and told me it could all go away if I signed over some property to them by power of attorney, had it all prepared, told him to go away all the while smiling..... then the aussie and his pregnant wife turned up playing the victims in front of the coppers, got the hump when I didn't roll over and started swearing and losing it...then demanded I be thrown in jail....

My lawyer 'negotiated' bail of 90k baht and I was out that evening, passport held by the Pattaya police who eventually gave it back 6 stressful weeks later and never to see the 90k again.....

proper stitched up mate but still kept my property

this is the reverse of corruption working in ones favour.....be very wary all you budding entrepreneurs of the Land of Frowns

running a business in Thailand and having the piss taken out of you by your staff.....sounds like paradise.

see this is the problem I have with the peoples attitudes out there, they know you have gone to see your sick mother in an emergency but have no problem in trashing your house and mugging you off...

it's not all of the people out there....just most of them that have this blatant dis-respect for those who have helped them by giving employment and in turn repay them with things like that....

my advice....take the pain by getting rid of them all and re-employing another maid, they won't learn their lesson as it will be all you as the bad man but at least you won't be lulled into thinking you can trust them again and have it happen again!

It's very sad, but if you look at the qaulity of man going to Thialand it's seems logical that some of these women would end up abused. Many can't meet a lady in their home country, so they travel to Thialand as a last resort.

you included then?

Well you chose that bank.

And honestly, if you foresee problems arisingwith your wife, why go into business with her, and why get married?

It's called trust. Stop being so paranoid of failure.

Is that what you've done then?

OP: taking your cases at face value you must know quite a few UK//Thai couples. I last lived in Australia in different towns and cities and knew many, I would say approx 4 couples where male was abusive either physically, psychologically or both.

As an assumption I would say that some are fearful of the husband threatening to have them deported, so feel trapped. Some are scared of police/social services i.e. figures of authority.. So puts you and wife in a very difficult situation as you would need the victim to collaborate & provide proof of their tormenters actions. In addition, very trustworthy friends to provide support for them.

Maybe it's too off the wall, but on some occasions I was approached by guys I knew for an introduction to a Thai women, but this would mean your/wifes personal involvement, plus they would have to take care of the victim just about immediately, as well as liaising with social services/immigration to counter the husbands allegations to try & get them deported

are you talking about husbands in the UK trying to get their wife deported?

if so it took the UK years to get rid of hook hand and the other cretin.....what chance does some regular johnny have in getting a Thai or anyone else deported if they have Indefinite Leave to Remain?