chachachacha

why anybody would pay that amount for a flat in a third world country

Nice try, no sale. 55555555

So you support terrorist. Not only that but you support terrorist & you don't know who their leader is or what their agenda is . Are you American ? given that you support killing & murder of anything you don't agree with.

Is anybody going to get round to changing this very misleading or deliberately politicised thread title?

Dear me, people died & all you care about is a headline on a forum . How cold can people be.

What the yellows did has nothing to do with the necessary clearing of Rachaparasong.

You say not at all,

so that means you were in favor of removing the illegal occupation of Rachaprasong.

"The rest of us..." clearly means;

others than the Reds holding the intersection and their supporters in doing so.

you would say that wouldn't you and you are way, way past being impartial on this subject - and you are simply wrong

So I should have phrased them as questions.

I never pretend to be impartial in this.

So does this mean you were in favor of the Reds holding Rachaprasong indefinitely?

Regardless of how it hurt other thais trying to make a living?

You can try to say the yellows gave them the idea they might get away with it, for a week, but no more.

Regardless of what the yellows did, that is not an excuse or carte blanche for them to do it again

or the reds to do it. And once they did, it was inevitable most people would eventually become fed up with it.

The rest of us comment was perfectly clear to others, but maybe not you.

Do you support Gaddaffi ? After all he is only clearing the streets of terrorist

The rest of us are very clear that the reds were necessarily cleared off the streets last year.

the rest of us?

So you were for the indefinite take over of Rachaprasong intersection by the red shirt mob and the denial of access for all other Thais until the reds got their way?

The rights of all other Thais could be held hostage by the reds on the streets of Bangkok because 'they have a cause'?

That even if it was an illegal occupation of the streets, no one else had rights except the reds to ignore the laws and do as the wished?

& you think that it is worth killing people to walk down a street rather than walk round it. I am sure that given your thought process it is fair to assume you support Gaddaffi & HIS METHODS OF CLEARING THE STREETS

Politically biased group purporting to be an independent NGO group, but clearly misstating facts willy nilly and clearly in the pocket of the Big Red Paymaster's family. More propaganda. And this will only get worse till the election is done with.

Are you a holocaust denier ? or do you just closeyour eyes to things that don't suit you. Dear me . Do you really want to argue the numbers ? I would say 1 death is to many . But then I have not been brainwashed.

Yes, I would say that even 1 soldier or journalist wounded or killed by the Red Shirts was enough and should have been the starting light for a proper crackdown on these hooligans.

Fair?

You sad sad murder supporter

Politically biased group purporting to be an independent NGO group, but clearly misstating facts willy nilly and clearly in the pocket of the Big Red Paymaster's family. More propaganda. And this will only get worse till the election is done with.

Are you a holocaust denier ? or do you just closeyour eyes to things that don't suit you. Dear me . Do you really want to argue the numbers ? I would say 1 death is to many . But then I have not been brainwashed.

Strangely I got a call from a BKK number today, what was a foreigner trying to sell me something ... oddly enough he knew my name. Perhaps buying mailing lists from a gym or something?

(relevant because when I checked the number on the internet it returned some stock agency.

I never bother answering my landline phone . Anybody that Knows me that wants to phone my landline knows to ring my mobile first let it ring just 1 time. then phone my landline.

What is happening about the proposed 1 visa for all countries ?

I do find it as wrong that you can only live with your family if you have money . The Forigner in Thailand only breathes the air , no health care or benifits so why the money thing ?

The measure of a man is not what money he has in the bank it is what love he can give to his family .

I am not married & never will be but I do feel for the poor families that are kept apart by rules like this . A child don't care if his/her papa has money .

Seriously now, how old are you....!!

redrus

How old are you ? You cry like a kid but then rags always do I remember the Law backheel . GET IN THERE . Go back to the village muppet Not to mention Bacon face when Goony demanded all them wages to stay at the swamp

I do not need to prove my Mancunian credentials to you, a liccle ciddy fan-who has already stated he is not from The Peoples Republic.

Get a grip and go trolling on your special massive blue moon, your comments were tiresome a while ago now....!

redrus

So you mean .you are not from Manchester (just another Trophy hunter) without history . LOL Are you still crying for Woony Loony Goony ? Crying for a mercenary LOL .

Stay in ya village little boy Manchester is a mans world . Red pus troll

why not try for a wk extention

Prob the best thing you can do if you are really keen to stay longer is . Send of for a new Passport now. You dont have to send your passport just photocopies . Then go to Malasia & sit off there untill you get a phone call saying your new passport has arrived . Then come back into Thailand on a 30 day (AIR Travel) or 15 day (Land Border) . get your new passport go & get the 30 or 15 day transfered to your new passport .Then go get a double entry if you want no probs. The visa on arrival at Malasia is just a small stamp which will give you 90 days.

All this is of course if you hold a UK Passport .

You need at least 2 & a half pages to get a visa over here. 1 page for loas visa ,1 page for Thai visa (if given but doubtful) Then you need at least Half a page for all the stamps out & in of both countries. Unless you get a new Passport or pages if American you really are up the swany . Sorry

I'll give it a go.

It would likely implicate members of many of the civil servants at many levels, from the Tambon offices all the way to the top in BKK, so that limits the political will (police, governors appointed from BKK, local administrations etc). That, of course, is supposition. I welcome any reply that has any facts

and 2 (since you are actually asking 2 questions)

You go for the easiest cases to prove and get a conviction on first to limit the actions that Thaksin can take. The other cases are still lined up against Thaksin and can move forward upon his presence in court to answer charges. The criminal conviction already in place sent him scurrying away. I am sure they were hoping he'd just hide out and be a good boy on that first conviction. If you think it is trivial (and by comparison to 2500 extra-judicial killings it is), ask yourself why he didn't show up for sentencing and immediately lodge an appeal. (Appeals require new evidence -- and any way you cut it -- legally his signature on the land deal for his wife was an open and shut case.) Once in jail and less able (not unable) to use soem of his own political juice, some of the other cases could have moved forward. He ran. The appeal would have been denied in all likelihood and staying would have made him available to show up in court to answer the other charges.

The prosecution did the right thing in going for the easy win first. Get the criminal in jail and then work to prosecute the harder cases as you go. Had they gone for a more major case first and failed and THEN followed with a minor one cries of "I am being persecuted" and "politically motivated" would have had more weight.

In the history of my own country there have been major criminals that were never brought down for their serious crimes, but that were brought down on more 'technical crimes" such as tax-evasion.

I knew I would never receive a sensible reply from the person actually addressed.We should aim to make this the tone for future exchanges

We should actually aim even more readily for exchanges that don't involve your typically derogatory and inflammatory tone, of which you've been reminded of on countless occasions. When your antagonistic and belittling style of posting is so prevalent, it's no wonder posters are hesitant to respond your posts.

Incidentally I do seriously maintain that the lesser charges were relativaly trivial.

I, personally, don't view billions and billions in corruption, removing the separation of powers resulting in personally beneficial changing of the laws, the initiation of pie-in-the-sky programs that only benefited himself and his cronies, attempted bribery of courts, or many of the other crimes for which outstanding warrants still exist (as outlined in the link in Post # 80) against him as, "relatively trivial."

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Just more spin & crap .Just because you keep saying the same thing dont think anybody is fooled

I am curious about the 'so called' corrupt land deal. Did'nt Mrs Thaksin win in a fair bidding process, because her bid was the highest. ? Whats wrong with that.

It was corrupt because Thaksin signed off on it while he was PM. That was against the law. Pretty simple really.

So Technical .

Just politically motivated . To try to justify the overthrow of the elected Government. . It also bought them time to sort their Junta Government by proxy . I seem to remember that when they took power they awarded themselves massive rises in salaries. Was this ever investigated ? NO. because they have been the Gun of power ever since.

Do you think that what they want now is a request to the government ? It is a demand to their proxy puppets. The same people on here that say Thaksin is corrupt also support everything Bush done ,That says it all really

You know it all posters in here are wandering around like a mob of sheep Baa Baaaaaaaaaaaaa Baa Baaa! Really none of you know the real facts, but you just take a line and believe it fullstop. You are a propaganda ministers dream. How many years has Thaksin been gone now ? Wake up and get a life.

Think about the mess that the country is in right now with the army going 'apeshit' and getting bigger and bigger budgets, buying useless equipment etc. Taxi and Tuk Tuk drivers doing what they like, police taking bribes and so on. Its a fact that there is now more corruption than there was in Taksins day. C'mon get real.

Do you know any facts, or have you just taken your views hook, line and sinker from the red shirt and Thaksin propaganda?

Do you ? As far as I see ,there is a certain group of dreamers here . They also seem to be on the side of Murder & slaughter on the streets of BKK . Junta supporters.

You know it all posters in here are wandering around like a mob of sheep Baa Baaaaaaaaaaaaa Baa Baaa! Really none of you know the real facts, but you just take a line and believe it fullstop. You are a propaganda ministers dream. How many years has Thaksin been gone now ? Wake up and get a life.

Think about the mess that the country is in right now with the army going 'apeshit' and getting bigger and bigger budgets, buying useless equipment etc. Taxi and Tuk Tuk drivers doing what they like, police taking bribes and so on. Its a fact that there is now more corruption than there was in Taksins day. C'mon get real.

HUH? How many years has Thaksin been gone? Zero. He is making announcements about Thai politics daily and is still the man behind the PTP and the UDD. The rest .... "c'mon, get real"

Dear me

When you go after drug dealers, you're a criminal.

This is Thailand, don't try to understand

When you "go after drug dealers" and shoot innocent people, you're a criminal.

How do you know they were innocent Ask just about any crim and he will tell you that he is innocent and i guess you will believe him

How do you know that every CRIM would say they are innocent ?

I think you will find that the vast majority of detained people admit their offences .

I suppose you believe that everybody that is in prison is guilty & that Thailand is paradice .

No we just expect lazy people to do their own research when it is readily and easily available.

I would normally agree with that, but just because chachachacha is making such an issue over it and appears unable to conduct a simple search, here's a reasonably comprehensive summation:

Thaksin Shinawatra and His Crimes (2001-2010)

http://www.livetradi...-2010-13766.htm

All that does is support my case that they did not hold back charges for when they had him in custody as one of your spin Dr friends hinted. The only charges that are now outstanding are BS political one's . He would argue that all are political & I am sure that if the same focus was put on all the MPs (GANGSTERS) of all parties you would struggle to fill a mini bus with the ones that are not corrupt.

Try & do better next time you give a link . That one was p_ss poor

All the crying little nanis ,not 1 from the City that the blue moon rise's MANCHESTER . Now you want to blame it on the FA chairman because he was once chairman of CITY .

I take it that now you agree that the years of FA Bias in favour of Manure was because of David Gill being on the FA Board .

You really should think about it before you post . LOL

How does something that happened 50yrs ago relate to the topic of today ? Or should we all just think the fkers just are not civilised.

Maybe the army cretins live in caves .

Hahaha, come back when you've some history and a trophy you muppet....!

Sad rag NOT FROM MANCHESTER

No history where you come from ?

Would you like the history on how City saved your rag <deleted> from going extinct

Typical rag no nothing . Do you Know why you are called rags ITS HISTORY. Ya tosser Pussy.

Oh & we have not reached your record of not winning a Trophy .How many years ?

Now run along & cry some baby nani tears for looney Wooney . Or just grow up & stop winging . If it was a City player you would want him banned for a year .

I hope he gets it reduced , I also hope that any injuries (Manure have) just go away . I want them at full strength for the Semi . I don't want them to have any excuses for the slaughter that The only football team from Manchester CITY is going to inflict on them.

If they don't reduce it they should make him serve it after the semi ,that would be in keeping with the favoritism the FA always seems to have for them .

I also think that the FA should give Taggart the choice of which officials should be appointed . They should also give Manure the choice of which City players should get sent off (Bacon Face should Pick)

Taggart should be asked by the FA How many players City should be allowed to keep on the field. Even after all that The Bacon will shout & rant about City winning the toss for kick off & blame the colour of their shirts for not being able to see each-other on the pitch (Financial Shirt CON )

Bertie Magoo the Bitter Blue lives on, and on and on and on...... You're doing yourself and your team no favours at all sunshine...!

redrus

Sad rag do yourself a favour & give ya head a wobble .Bertie MaGooney

Must agree with you , Sorry about your friend . Funny think is some call this place paradice .They must be blind .