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6 hours ago, kamalabob2 said:
7.0 Diamond brand aac blocks are OFTEN used by Thai builders. Diamond Building Products stock, as do some retailers, the lintels 7.5 wide, 20 cm tall and a variety of lengths. It is NOT difficult for a Diamond brand dealer, or Q Con brand dealer to order lintels or blocks. The challenge is they get a full truck load at a time, so you might have to wait until they get enough "tonnage" to have the truck leave and drive to the plant in Diamond Sariburi. It is the retailer who pays for shipping of bulk materials, such as autoclaved blocks in Thailand, so a truck that hits the weight limit is crucial to keep transportation costs down. This video is of an expat who used Diamond wall blocks, Diamond lintels, and some other energy efficient home building materials in a small village.
"Hey Bob thanks for the input and the video, looks like he built himslef a nice place, and it looks like single wall 75mm in the video, but not an expert so maybe my eyes are off. I did see stock of 70 and 75 mm blocks here at Global Home, but again they had no lintels in stock and said they would have to be ordered. It seems though that here the default is to put a cement frame around each window, and the builder I am looking at does that and also has a seam of cement at the midpoint that joins the windows to the pillars, reinforced with steel. I will ask him again about lintels and if they are such a hassle to get, maybe I will order them myself...or go with just the blocks. We are months away from start so I cant there being an issue getting 6-10 lintels in that time, but lets see. More interesting is this builder seems not at all interested in them - to me they reduce work even more (slightly, as they are typically the length of 3-4 blocks - yet it is not something he feels comfortable with, not sure why....
Cheers for the info
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10 hours ago, sometimewoodworker said:
The roof is purely an aesthetic choice, do consider rainwater harvest or disposal.
70mm is not standard.
Yes and I like the modern slope, water slides off easily, far fewer seams to worry about and yes for sure will be collecting TONS of rain water as it is always raining here in the south east - and we have lots of fruit trees and will do some gardens as well so water will be welcome.
Was a t Global Home (House?) yesterday and they had equal amounts of 0 and 75mm blocks in stock. Did not ask whick width sold more but they had them in quantity.
Cheers
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3 hours ago, sometimewoodworker said:
The 100mm lintel can certainly be put on a 75mm wall. The only difficulty would be on the rendering but that’s reasonably easy for competent workers.
The 100mm blocks are relatively expensive as the standard Is 75mm also you may have a bit of difficulty getting supplies quickly.
The advantage of concrete around openings is that is easy to fix to. If fixing to AAC you need the sawtooth metal plugs and to make the holes tight enough that they need to be tapped in with a hammer.
Cheers Sometime. Did not think about the fastening and the concrete v aac, good point. Yes also see that easily available widths in this area are 70mm and 75mm, all else is by order only - but we are months away from a potential start so that is less of an issue.
Now that the walls are more or less settled in my mind, focus has turned to the roof - the design is a modern front to back slope for run off, in steel. Pondering that vs a traditional gable roof, which is obviously more $$$
Cheers
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7 hours ago, sometimewoodworker said:
While @bankruatsteve may well be an electrical expert he is clearly more knowledgeable on building than you.
There is not much difference between the 2 in terms of building, insulation from sound, and insulation from heat.
The difference is that the panels need more machinery, the blocks are easy put up by a couple of workers. So in Thailand the panels are more difficult to get, transport, store, use & expensive in rental equipment. OK if you are doing a big construction, poor Idea for most houses.
Thai building uses the blocks to fill the gaps between pillars not for load bearing, also resistance to racking forces, so from a structural point of view the single wall is easily enough. But for sound, heat, cleanness of look @bankruatsteve is absolutely correct double is better. I have about a 24db drop in sound in my house.
BTW thx for links to pics, going to explore further there.
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7 hours ago, sometimewoodworker said:
While @bankruatsteve may well be an electrical expert he is clearly more knowledgeable on building than you.
There is not much difference between the 2 in terms of building, insulation from sound, and insulation from heat.
The difference is that the panels need more machinery, the blocks are easy put up by a couple of workers. So in Thailand the panels are more difficult to get, transport, store, use & expensive in rental equipment. OK if you are doing a big construction, poor Idea for most houses.
Thai building uses the blocks to fill the gaps between pillars not for load bearing, also resistance to racking forces, so from a structural point of view the single wall is easily enough. But for sound, heat, cleanness of look @bankruatsteve is absolutely correct double is better. I have about a 24db drop in sound in my house.
Sometime, thanks for the input. Agree on the enhanced properties of double wall but think in our case we will likely go with single wall, 75 or 100mm. We are in a quiet and cool zone - thought agreed the quiet could change in a heartbeat, but the 17+ years I have been here has acclimated me to most of what the atmosphere here throws at you, heat, rain, noise, etc
Builder is not as keen on 100mm or up, but I might go that way anyway. It appears lintels are not available at 75mm, and he does not use them but rather encases the windows and doors in reinforced concrete that extends to the support pillars. The rep at q-con tells us that this is a common technique here given no lintels at 75mm. It has occurred to me thou to ask if a 100mm lintel can be placed with 75mm walls...and the overhang I would just consider as an accent piece over the frames - it could overhang to the interior or exterior really...not sure this can work but inquiring to see.
Cheers
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10 hours ago, bankruatsteve said:
From insulation perspective, that is a lot better than the normal block. As mentioned, a double wall with cavity is what many of us have done for maximum insulation and convenient space to hide plumbing and electrics.
Cheers Steve thanks for the reply. I am getting feedback that 75mm is fine, in particular because the load is borne by the pillars. Insulation @ 75mm I think will work well for us in this case, as we are in a quite cool, rainy area - so I have more info now to ponder.
BTW, like the handle - see you are in Udon now, but perhaps once in Ban Kruat? It was a haunt of mine 15 os so years ago as well - good ol BK.
Have a great day
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On 8/15/2019 at 6:54 AM, Toosetinmyways said:
If anyone is interested in doing costing on different systems all internal and external walls took 3 people 3.5 days.
OP great thread. I am embarking on a house build now and have a quote from a builder who proposes AAC 75mm thick blocks - which looks to be the width of the panels I see in those photos.
Have any comments on how the place looks now, almost exactly a year later? Do you know if they used a single wall, or did they double it up? I have seen a few places this builder has done now and they look good, and the weather here I find not too extreme - not like where I am from anyway and from what I read I think 75mm might be more than up to the task, but would like to hear what others have experienced.
Cheers
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On 7/27/2020 at 3:25 PM, bankruatsteve said:
Maybe your first time to DIY? Yah - AAC blocks have been the favorite material for maybe 20-30 years now. The builders love them and they are excellent insulation. Most of us who have built homes with them have gone with a double wall (of 7.5cm) leaving a cavity for running PVC for water and electric. Cheers.
I am relatively new to the DIY section, and have a question about AAC blocks please. I have a builder quoting me on a small one story home, using a single wall of 75mm q-con. Is that enough for outdoor walls in the opinion of this forum (using a concrete frame and floor). I have visited a few projects he has done and they look god, but I am not an expert on these materials and unsure if 75mm is enough for external walls. Metal roof on top so not heavy
Thanks in advance for any input, cheers
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On 7/12/2020 at 9:46 PM, kuma said:
Yea that is the local way, so lets see. Trying to sleep now and go witness the dig....see whats under there, adjust outcome as we go to make sure its a one and done, and have a beer and some fun!
Tough thou, usually sleep at 07:00-14:00, so need to reverse for the day...if I can.
So an update. I got the land flipped, fhey used a macro (as they call them here). He did the whole piece in about 5.5 hours. Paid 4k in the end, he did great work and helped move some trees we cut down as well. Now letting it settle back down...rain almost daily helps with that. Glad in the end I did it, now on to whats next.
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On 7/13/2020 at 10:19 AM, SiamGarden said:
Thank you Kuma. it was impossible to find a house for rent in the area, so for the moment we rented two row rooms near the post office. Let me know if you fancy a coffee and a chat, in Tha Mai or in Chanthaburi. This is my facebook contact https://web.facebook.com/pagani.thailand
Yes houses to rent can be a challenge to find. In the city they are around, Tha Mai not so sure. Good luck with the hunt. I do mot have FB but the wife does so we could connect that way. I do cafe every day so that could work...my wrinkle is currently i work thru the night so my am cafe is typically at around 2pm, but we should be able to figure something out, cheers
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12 minutes ago, IsaanAussie said:
Good luck Kuma, not that you will need it.
From my experience just get done what you want, first time isn't it, apologize and ask them to go again. When you have what you wanted, smile and pay the man without question.
Yea that is the local way, so lets see. Trying to sleep now and go witness the dig....see whats under there, adjust outcome as we go to make sure its a one and done, and have a beer and some fun!
Tough thou, usually sleep at 07:00-14:00, so need to reverse for the day...if I can.
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On 7/7/2020 at 10:56 PM, ratcatcher said:
Have you been living with your Thai wife in the city for 17 years?
Will you be paying for the land which she will own?
Could you adjust to country life and how far from the nearest large town is this land?
Would you want to build a house on the land or just lease it to other farmers for rent?
I live in rice country, but my wife is a mango farmer. I could never go back to the urban jungle, here or anywhere.
Good luck in your investment plan.
Always interesting the signifivant default to buy land in thailand where the village of the girl you met lives. On our list of criteria, that was never even included. After 17.years and significant visits to more than 40 provinces, we closed on the place that seemed most attractive to us, rented here for a few years to confirm our thinking, then just about a month ago bought something. Wifes family home was never a criteria.
Actually, mother n grandmother in the end decided to get a place and come here anyway, once they discovered how great a spot it us. They have their own place, in same area but enough away that we connect once / week or so, not a communal all in one property idea.
Wife does not farm either but got enough space to grow some fruit as a hobby and for her to start a restaurant, her real.joy. bkk not far away so easy to go if we get the itch, but really now head to the islands more if we do head out. Will always love bkk but this place is paradise.
Find what you want, not get painted in to buying on the basis of someones birthplace only, imo
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On 7/10/2020 at 5:40 PM, IsaanAussie said:
If you can get what you want at this rate, why not? Against the Ozzie dollar that's $30 an hour. I couldn't get my lawn mowed back home for that, and then only if the guy was using my mower and fuel.
Well discussions of economic relativity between Thailand and Aus aside, yes intent is to get the job I want done, and at the market price.
Have an excavator with a 60cm bucket coming to do a toss and level, down 0.5m. This is the village local guy working on the clock with no quoted maximum. So good chance to test our stanfing in the neighbourhood as well.
Other quotes were 4000 and 4800 so interested to see how this shakes out in the end. The ground is solid so they say thats minimum size unit that can get into the soil. Maybe I can get some video to post
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3 hours ago, kickstart said:
I am in Lopburi province ,the soil should not make much difference ,we have all soi types around still the same price.
Why do you want to go down so deep,30-50 cm is deep that is almost subsoiler depth, a rotavator or a plough will not go down to that depth ,
What you need is something like this cultivator , this one is not so good but it gives you an idea of what to look for ,that would open the land up a lot more than a plough rotavator ,if you can find one , Thai's are not great users of any tined implements cost should be the same as a 3 disc plough,if the guy does the job right ,then go in with a rotavator ,at a death of no more than 6-8 inches (20.32 cm) ,that should do you for a seed-bed
Hey thanks for that. I am looking for exactly something like in the photo. I mentioned 30-50cm as that was what they said they would do. But the turn i would get from this cultivator is what i had in mind, or from the 3-5 disk plough.
Just called another ploughman, but he said no as the trip was too far for the size of the job. Looks like i am left with the quotes i found and will have to go with that. Its a one time event as the plan is to live on it so guess will go ahead.
I could grab some hand tools and go at it myself, but lol, nah....
Appreciate the responses, cheers
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On 7/8/2020 at 8:44 PM, kickstart said:
If you want to plough the land around here it is 400-450 baht/rie for a big 3 disc plough ,about 250-300 for a 7 disc plough/rie.
A rotavator not certain ,but about 200 baht/rie, again around here it is getting competitive ,with pickups going around with trailers towing drills, sprayers, some with rotavators on the back ,farmers try to earn a bit more by going contracting ,and help pay for there tractors and equipment.
Kickstart, thanks for the reply. Where is around here, what province are you in? Seems the prices here in Chanthaburi are much more than I have seen quoted from you and the OP above - but I do have to say the soil here is much more dense, a wet clay and very hard packed so not the same as the soil say at the land we have in Surin. That could explain the cost difference, but my quotes are much higher than what I see here.
To be clear as well, the idea is they will go down 30-50 cm and turn the soil to aerate it - not sure if the rotovator does that.
Latest quote I received was 600THB /hr, but he will not commit to how any hours it will take so it is a toss now between that and the two other quotes, one 4000 THB and the other 4600 THB.
Appreciate the reply, cheers
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On 7/5/2020 at 9:48 AM, IsaanAussie said:
Take a drive around and find a rice (or vegetable) farming area. Someone will have a tractor and implements that will not be busy at the moment, everyone will know someone. If you want the ground turned over deeply, get them to plough it first then rotary hoe (rotovator).
As a guide, here in Sisaket we pay 200 baht per rai for each. You will have to pay more probably and for any distance the tractor has to travel.
IA, thank for the reply. I forgot to turn on notifications so just seeing this now. Appreciate the response and the price point, good to know.
I have tried just as you mentioned, we have got a few quotes now, all in around 4000THB for the 248 TW. A LOT more than you are quoting for Sisaket, but pretty consistent - and they dont know of each other. The land is so small seems no one is interested as they need to haul the tractor in do the work and leave - so they seem to want a day rate and that is 4000 around here it appears.
Given your input, we are going to look around a little more though - see if we can do better.
Cheers, enjoy your day
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Good day - checking with SET (South East Thai) residents if anyone has a contact for a person/company that have a tiller for land and can be hired to till a small piece?
Have some land (248 TW) in Chan and would like to find a company that has a tiller and would come round and do the job. Wondering if any members know this area and have a contact that I could call.
Just bought the land, before starting doing things with it would like to do a good till and turn it all up, likely this land was never before inhabited so it has been settled for .... who knows.
Cheers
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Good day - hoping to resurrect this old thread, with a twist.
Have some land (248 TW) in Chan and would like to find a company that has a tiller and would come round and do the job. Wondering if any members know this area and have a contact that I could call.
Just bought the land, before starting doing things with it would like to do a good till and turn it all up, likely this land was never before inhabited so it has been settled for .... who knows.
Cheers
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take care of it as they are on the verge of bankruptcy and it will likely happen in the next month or so - if they cant pull a rabbit
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On 6/23/2020 at 9:17 PM, baansgr said:
Since the arrival of Texas Chicken, I haven't stepped foot in a KFC
Bingo - damn good fried chicken
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On 6/23/2020 at 4:03 PM, Scouse123 said:
Thanks,
I was thinking the same as well, especially if they have a paper trail.
I am also going to let Krung Thai know my intentions and get their view.
If the cash has the pedigree you say, then just do a wire and save all the potential nightmares that can occur trying to cross borders w that amount of cash. On another note, stating your intention and intended crossing point here is already high risk, unless its all a diversion....
Cheers
OK now reading thread I see the complexity with the FX - that is a problem.
Of course you would be at risk from anyone at the bank where you w/d the cash making a call to someone...or anyone else that knows of this plan, so you may be best to hang on a while, wait for better fx - find someone that wants to buy a condo etc in Cambo and look to use the funds there and get THB here, hmmm that could be problematic too but very high risk crossing imo
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On 6/23/2020 at 6:05 PM, White Tiger said:
My guess is they are completely clueless.
On this I have to agree. In this region, burning everything is a habit learned early, and there is little in the way of campaigns to discourage it, so for many locals it is what they have seen/done all their lives - and therein lies the problem....
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On 5/31/2020 at 12:12 PM, SiamGarden said:
Thanks. Soi Dao is a nice area, but after ten years of mountains in Nan we now prefer to be closer to the sea and the city ????
Welcome to Chan. Tha Mai is a nice town, cycle there from the city often.
After over four years of looking, i finally found the land that worked for me, in the city limits but really on the edge so very rural feel to it. There are very many great properties to chooae from here, enjoy the search
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On 6/23/2020 at 3:24 PM, JusticeGB said:
Pattaya Immigration told me in February that if I stayed, say in Bangkok, and then returned to my condo no re registration was required. It was only required if I went abroad. Now that requirement has been removed.
I was also told in jomtien that as a condo owner, with a yellow book, it was not necessary for me to ever report, and I only tried that once, not again
Soil from dredged khlong
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Good day
So after a long wait the results of the soil analysis is complete. Given the time that has passed, the dredged soil is no longer available for topsoil but here are the results, both for the land I bought, and the dredged canal soil.
Rather than make a table, I will list each measurement and the results, first number would be the khlong soil, second the land.
Acid Alkali: 4.70 / 5.16
Electrical Conductivity (google translate) ms/cm: 0.04 / 0.03
Organic Matter %: 0.26 / 0.22
Phosphorus mg/kg: 12.31 / 2.40
Potassium mg/kg: 19.18 / 161.62
Calcium mg/kg: 153.91 / 223.73
Magnesium mg/kg: 49.33 / 46.36
Thats the full spectrum available. There were other categories but they were not completed.
In any event we have pushed on and have planted a fair number of plants to kick off; mango x 3, durian x2, lime, banana x2, Coconut, Dragon Fruit and more. All actually seem to be catching on nicely to date, even through the pounding rain we had this month.
Any comments on the above is appreciated.
Cheers