RedBullHorn

NETT ! Because I got my own network... and my network of wholesalers drink ฿500 of liquor per harvesting day.

The FCR range of CP feed is 1.51:1 - 1.538 :1... (tested with 1 pond... with insurance for failure)

For hybrid species Big Oui

If size pla bo (as in jumbo size 2,3) is 37, it is a loss;

Pla yang (as in roasted) is 40, it is a loss;

The rest .........

For Pla duk Latsia

Pla bo is in the range of 35-38

Pla yang is also within the above mention price range...

One needs to understand the supply and demand and also the previous year/s market history. While everybody is stuck in the queue waiting their turn to sell their ponds and ponds of fishes, I'm in the clear rearing my fingerlings for next year harvest on the March period... (hybrid - Big Oui)

I sold my last batch of 135'000 in August for the 48/kg... and then I have no fishes for raining season, I stop raring ! (because I know this is the time the bubble will burst with people jumping into the wagons and the outpour of river fishes flooding the markets)

Everybody jump in when the supply is short and farmgate price is exceptionally good... the bubble will burst and everybody will get caught eventually.

Good luck and happy farming~

nitecm family live in the mountain area of CM, we've met as he had visited me for inquiry in raring Big Oui catfish (hybrid). The price he got is the price I got for a grade A feed in term RRP (Recommended Retail Price)... My "Premium grade" feed (not grade A ) is slightly lower because I am a "6 wheeler truck" bulk buyer at "factory price". In CM and CR (northern most) the transportation cost is higher hence the expensive feed price. His market (niche) is mostly cater to his wife own community, so sizes doesn't matter.

Grand MIL got 800 trees... after variable cost of 200'000 Baht, she is left with 600'000 of pocket money for a whole year.

Usually it is contract purchase at 1'000 Baht per tree at one viewing... if agree... wholesaler bring his harvesting team in...

I thought you wanted to do Pla Duk Big Oui after visiting my farm ? Why the sudden change of course ? Pla Bu Tong isn't like Pla Duk and in Pla Chon farming (Snakehead fish), you need fresh raw grounded fish meal from raw thrash fishes like Pla Salit, Pla Siu or Pla Salak... and Pla Chon will swim toward the feed area (staged). Unlike Pa Chon, Pla Bu Tong is a stationary predator which prefer live prey swimming across its face...I'm not saying it won't eat raw ground thrash fish meal but it also need to have live prey feed.

Fruit straight from a tree tastes different from fruit from a supermarket.....

Maybe the same for rice?

Being a Chinese, I eat rice all my life. Grow up eating Royal Umbrella Jasmine rice...milled aged and pack in plastic bag 5 kg export. Move here permanently 7 years ago, have been eating aged Hom Mali (found out back then Jasmine rice is Hom Mali) Which is store in 50kg polymer sacks. Taste the same to me.

The opposite applies to sticky rice, the new rice from harvest is best, quality deteriorate when aged.

Same thing with my wife, she is just simply uncapable of preparing small portions of food....

Thai rice is bad enough when freshly cooked, fancy eating it the day after.

We have very happy (and fat) dogs though!

"Thai rice is bad enough when freshly cooked,..."

Depends on what strain of rice you eat... Hom Mali 105 is the BEST rice I have eaten (After a year storage, minimal 7 months).

But I do agreed if it is Khor Kor 15 strain, not nice even after long storage to mature the paddy.

The above mentioned refer to steam rice... not sticky rice.

...and I'm Asian grew up eating rice... not potatoes...

How can I recognise this particular rice? Where to buy it? Any brandnames?

Thanks!

I have never thought of it since I move to Thailand..... Sorry, because I lease my plot to the UIL and get a third of the harvest every year. I eat the past year stock and let the newly harvest mature. What ever I don't eat is sold and my wife use the money to buy Sticky rice.

Same thing with my wife, she is just simply uncapable of preparing small portions of food....

Thai rice is bad enough when freshly cooked, fancy eating it the day after.

We have very happy (and fat) dogs though!

"Thai rice is bad enough when freshly cooked,..."

Depends on what strain of rice you eat... Hom Mali 105 is the BEST rice I have eaten (After a year storage, minimal 7 months).

But I do agreed if it is Khor Kor 15 strain, not nice even after long storage to mature the paddy.

The above mentioned refer to steam rice... not sticky rice.

...and I'm Asian grew up eating rice... not potatoes...

How can I recognise this particular rice? Where to buy it? Any brandnames?

Thanks!

I have never thought of it since I move to Thailand..... Sorry, because I lease my plot to the UIL and get a third of the harvest every year. I eat the past year stock and let the newly harvest mature. What ever I don't eat is sold and my wife use the money to buy Sticky rice.

OP Thomaspaul lives in Thoeng district of Chiang Rai.

Same thing with my wife, she is just simply uncapable of preparing small portions of food....

Thai rice is bad enough when freshly cooked, fancy eating it the day after.

We have very happy (and fat) dogs though!

"Thai rice is bad enough when freshly cooked,..."

Depends on what strain of rice you eat... Hom Mali 105 is the BEST rice I have eaten (After a year storage, minimal 7 months).

But I do agreed if it is Khor Kor 15 strain, not nice even after long storage to mature the paddy.

The above mentioned refer to steam rice... not sticky rice.

...and I'm Asian grew up eating rice... not potatoes...

Cockerels on sentry duty at the start of the farm track.

I spotted 3 faces in the clouds.

Common Name = Touch-Me-Not

Link

In customary

In the past, cattle are offered as part of dowry in the rural. I married my wife with a dowry of cash ฿99k, 9 Baht of gold (roughly ฿6k+ back then) and 9 cattle.


In faming

Year 1999, I invested 10 pregnant cattle to be bred and raise into a big herd and ended up with 110 cattle in 5 years.

The UIL had a hilly plot of 35 rai. We made a plan to raise cattle. The locale community mind-set of raising cattle are view as putting money in the bank and earning interest every year... sort of like a "fix deposit" on long term basis.

As per tradition in the case of the owner not being the caretaker... the 1st born calf will goes to the caretaker and 2nd year born calf of the same mother cow belongs to the owner...and the cycle repeat itself of that same one mother cow. The same thing apply to the offspring's (owner part), but not apply to the offspring's of the caretaker who usually sells his share yearly when it reaches 11-12 month old.

In my case, the caretaker UIL agreed to my proposal regarding his share of calves (from the 10 original mother cows), after the 3rd year calves were born (that goes to him)...the 4th and 5th year calves will go to my wife. The contract is for 5 years only and we would sell all the cattle.


Breed and auctions

It's true that some cross breed are auction and champion Brahman bulls often fetches millions of ฿. Was in the news back then that one was auction for 10s of million ฿ by enthusiastic breeder/collector. (Can do a search and also TV had a few Brahman cattle threads too)

Yes... Piétrain.

Thais pronounce it as "Pia Tang" or "Ba Tang"

My 2nd batch was "crossed with Piétrain" about 4 years ago.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/401262-pigs-101-a-start/?p=4054371

RBH catfish feed you using i would like to try for my frog. i have the same problem like your village haha. best with image so i can go hunting around for it 

 

Betagro 831 (Premium grade size #1 pellet for Clarias catfish, protein 32%)

Betagro 832 (Premium grade size #2 pellet for Clarias catfish, protein 30%)

RBH what is ADG?

 

Also, not to be too critical, but monkeys are more likely to go for the banana, and elephants are fond of peanuts  alt=tongue.png>

ADG - Average Daily Gain/Growth

FCR - Feed Conversion Ratio

Calculation/Formula With Examples Link

or type into search box - " Calculating average daily growth in animals "

cant go home beacuse its plus 40k anyway thank u guys who try to help me

im woman so i want to find the easiest way for myslelf   and ,yes im illegal overstayer but not becacuse i was lazy to pay so plz dont judge me

Don't have enough money.

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Agreed RBH. There has been a sizable investment in medium sized pig farms. Modernising and improving from traditional village stys by younger players looking to the 2015 start of the AEC. Neighbouring countries as well so when trade does open up the game will change. What to? Time will tell, but I think I would not be buying heaps of growers just yet.  

Generally on this topic, farming is modernising and mechanisation is the way forward. Buy it or hire it, but labour won't be cheap if available at all. 

I asked... Most younger players (in the villages)..... "AE What !?!!" " Not my problem~ Tell NCPO"

Well, I suppose that sucks the chocolate off Oz! 5555

I hope the forum continues. But as has been said before change is normal. Things seem a lot easier to find these days, definitely more choice than a few years ago. Good luck all, especially for your rubber guys. Pigsters stay tuned to your current "windfall" market just in case the leaves start falling. 

"Windfall" will be gone soon, hurry... Shake the trees now and start pilling those leaves.

 

Pigs are up ,so is beef 200Bart /Kg, been like it for a while now,as for cattle ,dairy heifer prices going up all the time, approaching very silly prices,buyers are comeing from Vietnam to buy our heifers,I think they are thinking of ASEN ,for potential new markets.
Rent dont't buy, some of our farmers are harvesting maize, and are getting 5 bart /Kg,picking cobs, same price as last year, 7 bart combining the crop,but yet to see a combine .With production cost going up ,and thanks to sugar cane and cassava,land rent prices have gone up, to useing contractors to do every thing,(dog and stick farming),you will certaly be walking away with a loss, margins are getting tighter all the time.
You have got own land and equipment to make any thing,but it might all go full circle,making renting viable again.
You do have a good point about renting,walking away with just a suit case in your hand, if it goes pear shaped has a lot to be said .
KS

 

What is ASEN ?

 

I think IA has made a good point here.

Not involved in either but can see that the rubber biz seems a big downer right now but pigs is good. 

I am now paying 170Baht/kilo for pork at the market up from 125 just 6 months ago.

Price is everything. Trying to predict it is very very tricky and just the same as gambling on stocks and shares. 

Rubber is a longer term investment but has a big disadvantage in that unlike stocks you cannot liquidate quickly if things look bad.

Combined with the laws about land ownership here it seems short term easily escaped from investments should be the order of the day.

Rent don't buy, be it land or equipment, and you can if needs be walk away with limited losses and make more money if things go well.

 

What do you know about piggery business/farming ? Read more... I made "BIG" money raring pigs in the past, don't need prediction.

Let's talk about production like the different type of pellet feed. In my village of 182 household, half are raising backyard frogs in tanks for self consumption. All of them use pellet feed for rearing fishes. All of them tried pellet feed from many village shops selling them... They complained their froglets slow ADG, came to my shop to make enquiry regarding my catfish feed. Price different by ฿200/ sack. SHOCK !!! 

"I'm using it to rare my Clarias, not meant to sell. It's costly because it's a Premium feed, top of the range" 

"OK. Let's try your Premium Feed !  I want to see what's so special about your feed !  "

​All it tooks was just this one customer... and i had to stock an additional supply of up to 400 sacks a month just to supply to my community. Amazed at the power of "word of mouth".

They realised the huge difference in ADG and lessen the bad smell and water foul up...

Top of the range Premium Feed.   Pay peanuts you get monkey, pay bananas you get the elephant...