jonclark

Taxpayers money used to payoff illegal loans. Sounds like a winner for the loan sharks.

2 hours ago, mfd101 said:

'Third World' means different things to different people. Your view of Thailand is perhaps more optimistic than most of us manage most days of the week ...

Third world means non aligned to either the western /NATO worldview or communist/ Russian worldview during the cold War. It is not a term used to indicate level of development rather political (non) alignment.  And correctly Thailand is a Third world country..like Switzerland for example as well as a significant number of Asian, African and Central and South American countries. 

It has negative connections now as people and mainstream media have been using the term incorrectly. Which ironically says more about their own level of knowledge, development and understanding of their own language than the countries they are attempting to look down by labeling them as third world. 

But back to the OP. 

IMO Taksin in hospital is just one massive F U and slap in the face to the people of Thailand and its justice system by the Shinawatra clan. 

6 hours ago, Trippy said:

Decent? 6 days a week for 15K a month, would you work for that?

That depends, I would if the alternative was no money. And sadly that is the reality for many people here who are unskilled, unqualified and uneducated. 

7 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

 

so the answer to my question is.

 

No he was not running in the last election.

 

Thanks for clarifying

Ralf001/Steve100 you ate welcome. If you need anymore answers about the political situation in Thailand please feel free to consult me. It will save you from making continued erroneous statements in the future regarding Taksin and his popularity. Thank you for acknowledging my correctness on all things political. 

26 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

P'Thaksin was running in the last election ?

I do hope that you are not that nieve that you actually think he was not involved, or was his daughter running as a high profile candidate with his explict backing just a coincidence... and no I have no links

1 hour ago, Ralf001 said:

 

Way to take my post out of context.

 

you win a gold start.

Debate the context till the cows come home..it does not detract from the truth of the situation. That the application of the law must be equal irrespective of perceived popularity of the offender or otherwise. 

52 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

Got a link to back your claims ?

Yes ....any thai news paper. Look at the results of the last election.

Just now, jonclark said:

I think you need to get up to speed. Once in the past perhaps at the height of TRT popularity, now it's far far fewer as the last election results showed. He is far less popular and influential than he once was eh steve? . 

20 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

 

10's of millions of Thai's champ.

Time to take you sheeple head out of the sand.

I think you need to get up to speed. Once in the past perhaps at the height of TRT popularity, now it's far far fewer as the last election results showed. He is far less popular and influential than he once was. 

9 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

 

The trough is well funded with the 76billion they stole off P'Thaksin

And where did he get 76 billion from? It wasn't from his telecoms business that's for sure. 

On 12/17/2023 at 10:05 PM, Ralf001 said:

 

Many are pro-Thaksin and will rejoice when P'Thaksin is finally released from the shackles.

 

 

But is this about the equal application of the law as per the constitution not popularity? 

Let's be honest it's just one massive legal con that only cements endemic corruption as the center point of the Thaialnds entire legal framework...and yet Thailand still struggles to understand why so many foreign criminals can be found residing within its borders.  It's fairly clear that a corrupt and broken legal process and system is one the soft powers that Thailand excels in. 

Listen its a brilliant idea. Put Taksin in an army barracks and he now has a personal army surrounding him, keeping pesky reports away and upstart MFP MPs who want to see how ill he is, while he is able to hang out with Prayut - who also has a place in the army compound residences - and run the country efficiently together without distractions. Job done. 

52 minutes ago, NoshowJones said:

Whatever you think about Thaksin, and I do believe a lot of what you say about him, just don't forget there is an ex soldier who led an illegal coup and stayed in power for nine years backed up by soldiers, guns, and tanks and even today he is walking about free and stinking rich.

Why is he not arrested and tried in a Thai court for what he did? Would he still be backed up by Thai soldiers and their guns and tanks?

Good luck getting that recently appointed Privy Counselor in court of law.  Privy Conselor = untouchable. End of story. 

If he is sick - then the easiest and most transparent way to end all of this is to release some form of medical update. That would end the gossip - you could argue it is confidential information, but equally the public does have a justifiable interest in this case. Lets not forget Taksin is an Ex PM, brother of another Ex-PM and father of the leader of the largest party in government. There is a justifiable reason to provide an update on his condition to the public. 

The ansence of an update clearly shows the public interest (and potentially the law)  is being purposely ignored which only leads to the question Why? 

So the plan in simple terms is basically to max out the credit card. And then hope you can keep up with repayments...? 

6 hours ago, NanLaew said:

 

Seriously, there's a whole lot of other stuff that can impact my life and that of my family and none of it is remotely connected to this former PM or any of them.

Very true. 

15 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

Get well soon P'Thaksin.

Steve100 v2.

He (Veerachai) is just a son-in-law. The father-in-law (Chada) is just the person who received the dowry. He can’t dictate his son-in-law’s actions,” said Anutin, as he commented on the case.

Is Anutin suggesting the dowery may have been 'saved' by corrupt practices, before it was given to Chada? 

8 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

 

Need to be guilty to be convicted.... not exactly rocket science... for most.

No. You are incorrect. A conviction requires an investigation first...but no investigations into the killings why? 

Thousands of Thais murdered or killed on Thai soil and no investigations to find the perpetrators...why?  

I suggest you read the report in its entirety. 

5 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

 

Of those 2275.

 

35 were killed by police... the balance took themselves out.

Thousands of Thais dead and not one conviction. Explain. 

"On February 26, a sixteen-month-old baby, nicknamed "Ice," was in her mother's arms when she and her mother, Raiwan Khwanthongyen, thirty-eight, were shot and killed by an unknown gunman in Sa Dao District, Songkhla. "

No investigation no suspects and a dead 16 month old baby. Why? 

BTW it's not 35..it's 57 if you had bothered to read the report. 

5 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

 

got a link to your evidence ?

https://www.refworld.org/docid/412efec42.html

"Thaksin's anti-drug campaign quickly evolved into a violent and murderous "war on drugs." Beginning in February 2003, the Thaksin government instructed police and local officials that persons charged with drug offenses should be considered "security threats" and dealt with in a "ruthless" and "severe" manner. The result of the initial three-month phase of this campaign was some 2,275 extrajudicial killing"

Knock yourself out champ....And to this day not one person has been charged with a single murder.... Thousands of Thais killed and murdered in Thailand and there are no suspects or follow up investigations. Why? Because the murders were state sponsored extra judicial killings ordered from the highest levels of government.

6 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

Totally disagree with your comment re good/bad parenting.

My mother treated both my sister and I the same .

I respect the law, never hit people (especially women) and try to be polite to everyone.

My sister is a criminal. Wanted by the police and when I caught her stealing cash from our mother and grandmother I kicked her out of the house. We never saw her again.

Some people just grow up bad. It is usually from the people that they mix with. Social media now is a BIG influence on kids.

People forget the innocent victims of crimes like this one. Parents, siblings, children etc.

I am not judging this kid's parents, but they will be hurting as well. Not the same as the family of the poor women who died, but they will still be hurting.

Nature vs Nurture as the old adage goes.