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In the last five months I shudder to think how many billions of baht has been invested in cannabis-related ventures, right through from sellers with carts on the street, up to fat cat politicians and police and army generals getting in on the act.

It seems evident that there already was a huge black economy already in place, with underground grow rooms and importers of "flowers" (!) selling widely online in the shadows - how else did so much stuff flood onto the open market within days of the legalisation back in June?

The elephant has been let into the room. No amount of blustering backtracking is going to change this - there's far too much money now tied up in it by important and influential people.

The laws will be tidied and neatened and made to look outwardly respectable and efficient, like everything else in Thailand - quite rightly, as in this case it was more-than-usual too fast and unthought-out to begin with . . . 

Then the laws will be ignored - except for the odd arrest here and there, publicised to make it look like everything is smooth and polished.

And life will go on - happily with the price of local-grown bud having dropped right down, seeing that just about everybody and his pet buffalo is now involved in one way or another in this typically Thai pantomome. God, but I love this country.
 

6 hours ago, Wuvu2 said:

Has anyone tried these folks? Pretty great looking buds at great prices, but largish minimum.  Click on English in the translation link.

 

https://tiveackl-online.translate.goog/?m=Item&a=show&id=36813&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=th&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

 

At 4 baht/Gm this is surely another of those Chinese scams!

On 10/27/2022 at 2:45 PM, roietfortress said:

Red Thread review -

my guess is that its Fire OG from the look and smell. it hits like a hybrid too. now i am starting to think the red thread name is from the red hairs not the packaging.

 

 

 

 

 

I think you are smoking a kebab . . . 

15 minutes ago, Expat68 said:

I live in neighbouring province, I have heard this story many times, the student goes to college, once leaving college with his/her certificate (????) applies for a job at a hospital/government establishment, then the parents of the student(s) pays money under the table to secure the job.

It's not a "story", it is the established process in Thailand. It doesn't matter whether you are a bank manager or clerk, government employee or policeman - you have to buy your way into the job. And the greater the job-opportunities for bribery, extortion, or other corruptions, the higher the cost to get in.

2 hours ago, Gknrd said:

I know a few people here, every uncle , aunt, extended family is growing it. I stopped at a few Guest housed and they are growing it.. In Laos same. But, you go to jail here if they want.. But, the GH I was in had at least 100 plans growing.. Crazy..

They all think it is going to get them rich..

Unfortunately it's actually a very labour-intensive business, growing cannabis, and needs specialised knowledge. For a great many years the Thai farmers prided themselves on the quality of their government-sponsored  crops - which were sadly behind the rest of the world. The Thai "top" strain (Tana Kan Khaw WA1) contains only around 10% of THC (the ingredient that gets you stoned) whereas the cannabis 'pharmacies' are mainly selling imported stuff from Canada, Bolivia (and some states in the US). These have THC  levels of up to 28%.

The typical 'throw and grow' approach of the farmers just won't cut it in the face of this kind of competition, where everything is mostly grown under lab conditions with controlled nutrients, high-intensity lighting and exacting drying and curing techniques. The Thai cannabis is selling for around 100-150 baht a gram, in contrast to the vastly superior imports (sold as 'exotic' strains) that the 'pharmacies' are putting out at an average of 500+ baht per gram - some of this I've seen being sold in tourist areas for more than 1,000B p/g.

I'll be soon coming up to the first harvest of the new cannabis regime and a huge number of Thais are going to find themselves disappointed, as all their low-grade harsh-tasting 'landrace' product hits the public at the same time, probably next month and December.  

And I suspect that the import tax on imports from abroad will suddenly take a hike too, when the government realises what's happening..

On 9/30/2022 at 2:20 PM, philthebook said:

Correct, my Thai friends describe the very stoned feeling as drunk (when speaking english to me)

 

For those living outside of Thailand - the Thai language is limited. They have no words to distinguish between "being under the effect of'" alcohol, cannabis, LSD, or even Rohpynol! So to Thai people - who are not at all politically correct - there is no difference between the words used to describe all these different effects. You are acting "mao" ("drunk") in all cases.

Thus in a Thai forum about specifically about Thailand and cannabis in Thailand, it is more appropriate (and more usual) to use the transliterated word "drunk".

If you are in a more sensitive (and/or enlightened) part of the world, then please make an effort to understand this and to have more insight and tolerance - and may your chickens be bountiful and your days fruity with terrapins and terpenes.

On 9/19/2022 at 2:51 PM, HaoleBoy said:

I was looking for a scientific / intelligent reason ...  My noted THC % numbers came from Fast Buds (genetically creates new strains) and Leafly.com not from a seller here in Thailand.  These 2 companies must list some THC % that they have tested. Yes, this doesn't mean that all buds are the same after growing.

 

If you don't know something then maybe better to just be quiet.

The sellers THC percentages relating to a specific hybrid are quoted as "up to . . ." and the reputable sellers will state this. To reach this THC level you do the exact opposite of the Thai farmers:- you don't scatter to seeds in the dirt, ignore them for 4 months, then cut off the buds (which are full of seeds) and throw them in the sun to dry out..

The max THC can only be reached by using feminised plants (or hand-culling the males individually), applying a cocktail of scientifically formulated nutrients (which change through the different stages of veg growth and flowering), training and pruning, and using added CO2 in the final blooming stage. The careful drying and curing also carried out with the top pro growers adds another 4 - 6 weeks to the timetable. None of this is currently being done by your "average" Thai farmer.

And is also explains why one line of (f'rinstance) Green Crack (etc etc) makes you cough your guts up and gives you a headache buzz, and others are so much better. 

When you find a seller who's friendly, helpful, reliable and trustworthy, and is selling good, strong, consistently-effective stuff at under the tourist prices for "exotics", you collect three or four of these and stick with them!
 

1 hour ago, madmitch said:

Has he actually looked at any other currencies, many of which have fallen further against the dollar than the baht has? 

Is the buffoon even aware that there are more nations out there than Thailand and the USA?

FOR GOD'S SAKE ENOUGH OF THE INCESSANT BICKERING AND SQUABBLING - on and on and on without a rest.

LEAVE OFF - OR TAKE IT TO PRIVATE MESSAGES.

Enough now.. 

Oh but doesn't arrogance come before a fall!

Thailand has always been so unbearably smug about its own self importance - even the children every day in school chant how wonderful the Thai nation is and that its the "biggest and best" nation in the world.

And, being the biggest and best nation in the world, of course everyone wants to go there. And because its such an important nation, Thailand can create dozens of stern and complex immigration rules and regulations because this is a sign of a nation's status.

Until one day they wake up to realise that all their self-important posing and posturing and red tape, and Mickey Mouse uniforms with gold braid and rows of gaudy medals are not seen by the rest of the world as impressive at all. It's all rather childish, really.

And the overall hassles to visit the "biggest and best nation in the world" just can't compare to how much easier it is to go somewhere else instead.

When will Thailand ever understand that it's not a question of hunting hopefully for the right demographic of wealthy tourist - but that it's Thailand itself which needs to change.