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You're kidding! I know Thai education is of a very poor quality, but, surely, any idiot must realise that a pandemic doesn't multiply arithmetically, but geometrically
It doesn't go month 1 = 2,000 infections, month 2 = 3,000 infections, month 3 = 4,000 infections . . . it goes 2,000, 4,000, 8,000, 16,000 and so on.
In the last 6 or 7 weeks it's gone from around 2,000 a day to 6,000 a day.
With that kind of progression we'll be on 10,000 a day by next MONTH! Not next year!
OH! No, sorry, we won't. Because The Gov is only resting random samples in areas where Covid is being reported. The rest of the general populace is being ignored. Right! As you were, men! 10,000 by the end of the year. We're on target. Very good. Carry on.
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"Manager" - "Manager" - "Manager" . . . every few words it's "told" Manager" this" or "he said to "Manager".
Is this article written for some kind of secret society? Who on earth is "Manager", and what's he got to do with anything? Are we supposed to know?
A very irritatingly-penned piece, very smug - evidently written by a young, trainee spy for a secret organisation.- 1
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3 minutes ago, MrJ2U said:Is this on top of the repirted 5 million doses that was reported over a week ago?
Thaiger June 24th
"The Government Pharmaceutical Organisation said that only 5 million Moderna Covid-19 vaccines would be available at private hospitals, half as many as the 10 million total figure expected. The government of Thailand is giving free vaccinations using the Sinovac and AstraZeneca vaccines, while they had approved Johnson & Johnson, Modena, and Pfizer vaccines for private use."
nah - it was only reported that it was reported - the report of the report was mis-reported.
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18 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:
While this can be interpreted as a sign of progress, amongst the laggards, why was this not done last year? Or months ago? Why only now, and why such late delivery? Are they scared of the cost?
Gotta find a way to pay for the subs and the moon shot somehow- this whole fiasco is a great little earner for a few top Thai people - to h**l with the unwashed peasants and dirty foreigners.
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1 hour ago, Nanaplaza666 said:He and his are vaccinated and he doesn't give a flying !@#$ about the rest. Tell a Thai to do one thing and they will do the exact opposite . So maybe it will work better if they tell him to slow down or do nothing at all maybe that will start him up this dumb useless peace of human being .
A savage editorial today in The Thai Enquirer.
(Link at the end)
I will quote a fraction . . .
"We are led by an administration of cowards masquerading as decisive men and the only direction they will take us is our collective doom.So bound are they to their paymasters that they were unwilling to shut down the country when it would have helped before Songkran.
So eager to please are they that they bet the entire fate of the country on a vaccine that doesn’t work and a pharmaceutical company that has never produced vaccines.
Yet the clown car of our destruction rolls on, led by a half-smiling buffoon who would rather tell jokes than evoke the seriousness of the situation."
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1 hour ago, arick said:Why isn't Phuket on their list they were 70% Last Friday and last Saturday 80% they would be at the top of the list.
Things that everybody ought to know about Thailand's numbers and statistics.
1. No Thai 'spokesperson' actually knows the reality of the figures or statistics that they quote. They're handed numbers which have been prepared by somebody else.
2. When a Thai 'spokesperson' isn't given any figures or statistics, they make them up, trying to sound as optimistic as possible.
3. The people who compile the figures or statistics for the Thai 'spokespeople' usually believe that they are accurate, even though they know nothing much about figures or statistics. These figures or statistics are usually ordered to be biased for effect and are frequently inaccurate.
4. Often the people who compile the figures or statistics couldn't care less, as they will be handing the figures or statistics on to somebody else and there's no way of proving them right or wrong, so they just make them up.CONCLUSION: Absolutely no figures or statistics produced or stated by a Thai 'spokesperson' are accurate and can be believed, even if they genuinely think that they are.
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Things that everybody ought to know about Thailand's numbers and statistics.
1. No Thai 'spokesperson' actually knows the reality of the figures or statistics that they quote. They're handed numbers which have been prepared by somebody else.
2. When a Thai 'spokesperson' isn't given any figures or statistics, they make them up, trying to sound as optimistic as possible.
3. The people who compile the figures or statistics for the Thai 'spokespeople' usually believe that they are accurate, even though they know nothing much about figures or statistics. These figures or statistics are usually ordered to be biased for effect and are frequently inaccurate.
4. Often the people who compile the figures or statistics couldn't care less, as they will be handing the figures or statistics on to somebody else and there's no way of proving them right or wrong, so they just make them up.CONCLUSION: Absolutely no figures or statistics produced or stated by a Thai 'spokesperson' are accurate and can be believed, even if they genuinely think that they are.
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5 hours ago, Moti24 said:I did read, not long ago, that Thai tourists are heading that way. How are they going to get there! Are they being airlifted-in, or travelling through several provinces, stopping to eat every 2 hours, collecting the virus as they go!
I can feel the 4th wave hovering not too far away; the foreigners can take the blame, so no problem.
I've just noticed the number under my name at the top - 1984! There's an omen, if ever I saw one.
Thailand has been using the cheapy Sinovac to jap its people with. After the first shot it's 3% effective. Only a fraction of the Thai people have had 2 jabs, ie it's 50% effective.
And yet they are refusing admission to incoming foreign tourists who have been jabbed with the same vaccine, as it's deemed ineffective.
Speaks volumes about the government's confidence in its own vaccination program, doesn't it . . . or alternatively they simply don't give a s*** about their own people.
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23 hours ago, rudi49jr said:
This is a matter of prestige/face for China, they just want as many countries as possible to order and use their vaccine. So my bet is that they’re throwing around quite a bit of money as an ‘incentive’ to persuade the powers that be to order the vaccine. And we all know the one and only true god that the Thai generals and their cronies pray to.
Erm . . . remind me again . . . where exactly did this mysterious supervirus suddenly appear . . . ?? What country did it 'escape' from?
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It seems to me that you have little interest in being a teacher. You see it merely as a 'job' and not the vocation that it would automatically be if you were dedicated.
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6 hours ago, ezzra said:
I understand that alcoholic beverages will not be available in the 'sandbox' of Phuket for now, so what those hundred of thousand of tourist to do with no alcoholic drinks available? drink cola or pepsi?...
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7 hours ago, mancub said:
Phew ....that's an awful lot on one lung-full !????
umm what to say...eu uk usa are all weeks away from opening up and clearing their economies.not so here obviously and from what ive read and im hearing the china vacc gives low cover less than 50% ,people i know in hk wont use it,theyre scared of it.the drs here also state they think vaccs may not work on mutations ,i think that seems to indicate a lack of confidence in china vacc i could be mistaken but most people ive spoken with dont want it.the az pfizer and moderna PARAGRAPHS ARE A USEFUL AID TO READABILITY shots seem to offer a lot more cover on new and old strains.most importantly theres not enough vaccs and for us its complicated to get it.its a muddle of epic proportions.id like to get out shortly but even thats not straightforward as the info on that changes so fast.i wanna go to southern europe,but what do we need to get there.dancng with the devil here,its all done on apps and phone computers,the stuff works sometimes but i m not very good at it and i dont like being trakked a la 1984.i just wanna walk in a place get a shot,pay for it,i was signed up with a private hospital but the govt stopped that way out,why thats insane?people can get cover ,that helps the overall situation and the individual,makes no sense what so ever,i just want the paper or cert so i can fly and have some type of normality in my life.
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4 hours ago, RichardColeman said:Just proves to me that atleats 91% of Thais have absolutely no clue as to the efficacy of the Chinese first jab !
I'm on Samui, and my local restaurant lady is fine with foreign tourists coming in. But she's scared stiff about Thai tourists - she told me that the Thai people think the jab is magic and that with the "injected amulet" just one time in their body, they think they are protected against all ills forever.
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Something that nobody seems to have taken into account - especially the Thai government, who can't see past the end of their noses - is the effect on Thailand and tourism if tourists come, then go back having become infected in Thailand and carrying the virus back to their own country.
Even with quality vaccines like Pfizer and Moderna there is still a 1-in-10 chance of becoming infected.
With the cheap Sinovac that the Thai Government is cutting costs with, it's a 50-50 chance after 2 doses. Pretending that Phuket is "70%" vaccinated (when it is nowhere near this) is shortsighted stupidity.
Meaning that - in their desperation to pull tourists in (and fiddling the vaccination figures to do it) - Thailand is on the verge of digging its own grave.
It will only need just a tiny handful of tourists to test positive on their return home, and that will be the nails in the coffin. Word will spread and Thailand will be dead in the water for years to come.
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There are a couple of reasons to explain this perpetually-idiotic behavior from the Thais.
The first is that Thailand is run on a very old-fashioned management system, a pyramid with the one big boss at the top passing his orders downwards with no debate or consultation - as in "get me the numbers of tourists that I want or you're out of a job". Hardly surprising that the underlings just make up fantasy "facts" and figures.
But the main failure is that Thailand and its governance has no idea whatsoever about what's going on outside of Thailand. The idea (for example) that Thailand might be on other nations' no-go lists would never occur to anyone Thai. Likewise, they just can't imagine that tourists might have to be quarantined in their own countries, when they return.
And the other huge problem is that none of the government departments are linked or connected or work together. Hence the constant idiocy of one department making a statement which is contradicted the next day by another statement from somewhere else - even provincial governors can suddenly create new rules which go against guidelines from the TAT or health ministry.
Finally - the Thai admin has no clue at all that the bulk of their previous tourists can now go to alternative destinations that are closer, cheaper, and far less hassle than Thailand, with no immigration silliness, no expensive tests required, and with laws and rules that don't get changed every week
The Thai nation is conditioned by its education and society to believe that their country is the best in the world . . . and that kind of superior arrogance is no longer acceptable in the 21st century - particularly when holding out a begging bowl.
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On 6/18/2021 at 2:54 PM, WineOh said:
I think I can.
As Thailand is a Buddhist country and has a solid conservative core, many older Thais view drinking as a sin.
Hence why, since the ultra right-wing conservative army stole power in 2014, there has been a war waged on the alcohol industry via heavy taxation and regulation.
Ultimately the junta would love to do away with drinking all together, though they know that it is practically impossible so they opt for the next best thing - milk as much money from the sale of booze as they can whilst simultaneously being actively seen trying to discourage the promotion of alcohol to appease their right wing core constituents.
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"Hence why, since the ultra right-wing conservative army stole power in 2014, there has been a war waged on the alcohol industry via heavy taxation and regulation."/snipI'm not sure about that. The same was true on the evenings before elections and on the voting day, back before this military junta took over. My old restaurant lady explained it by saying that Thai men were like children and if you put them in a group with alcohol they would drink until they fell down drunk. It's not just the present government which seems to think this . . . . I've been here 24 years and they have always banned alcohol on election days and religious holidays.
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4 minutes ago, superal said:
A floor mop to clean the tables ? one can only imagine what hygiene care there is in the kitchen .
Actually it was very clean in the kitchen - the floor mop wasn't needed there; you've completely missed the point! It was needed out where the animals were, much the same situation as in a zoo!
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8 hours ago, KarenBravo said:
Anything that keeps those rude, dirty, selfish Chinese away from Phuket is fine by me.
Racist? Maybe.
From long observation? Definitely.
Depressing to say, but totally agreed. The only time I've ever seen anyone use a bucket and mop on a restaurant table was after such a family had finished. What couldn't be chewed and swallowed was simply spat onto the table or the floor.
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3 hours ago, sammieuk1 said:
How's the lunar landing going don't here much about it anymore ????
The Thai government are still shooting wildly at the moon, but they're doing it with lunatic plans and plots and schemes regarding tourists instead.
With this kind of track record, the actual moon-shot (when it happens) is certain to sail right past and crash into mars - particularly if the same kids who programmed the govt. websites have anything to do with it.
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I've been living on Samui for a long time, and my little local restaurant lady is something of an expert at keeping up with all the Covid news - in fact I go there frequently just to check if I'm interpreting the local news correctly.
I asked her a few days ago if she's worried about lots of new tourists (!!) coming in soon. Her reply?
"I'm not worried about the tourists; they've all had the full course of jabs and they're getting quality vaccines. But they won't be coming for a long time yet as this government is making such a mess of everything. No, what I'm worried about is Thai tourists coming from the mainland. The way things are none of us (Thais) on Samui can know if they are properly vaccinated and the certificates and checks they get are not reliable, and some are coming here and they've only had one jab. A lot of Thai people think that's all they need."As it happens it's a family business and there's no rent to pay and the utility bills are just about covered by the odd handful of retired expats that go in there. But it's devastating for those who are less fortunate.
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8 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:
Everyone needs to eat, then eventually they die, so why starve them further ?
Utterly illogical. If your reasoning is that we're all gonna die eventually, then the rational deduction is that you might as well save food and starve everybody in the first place. ????
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You've all got this totally wrong.
While everyone's busy criticising the Gov for screwing up the apps and websites, they're giggling up their sleeves.
The Mor Prom app was a disaster and made appointments in 5-minute time slots 24-hours around the clock and crashed. Subsequent appointments made in person at regional hospitals were all cancelled after another 2 or 3 weeks because of a wonderful new website to use - but (after another few weeks) the thailandintervac site now just tells you that there's no appointments - and then, suddenly, well fancy that, it's had to be taken down a week or so later because of data (in)security.See . . . they don't actually have any vaccine - well nothing like enough to go around. But they can't tell you that because it's more than losing face - they'd be losing their whole head.
So they've created a whole bunch of infuriating and misleading distractions - one after another - to try to divert everyone's attention and thus gain the time they desperately need.
After all, it takes a while to find a buyer for a couple of lightly-used 2nd-hand submarines, not to mention all the gear and equipment for a moon-shot that's no longer needed . . .
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On 6/7/2021 at 3:10 PM, deej said:
So far ,this Visa yr .my extension retirement and two 90 day reports drive through at the Cmai Immgr Dept have taken approx 4 hrs in total as a DIY
BTW all the above 3 ,have been posted here???????? as for your sarcastic remark of not having money ???????? i cuddle my money and spend wisely, With the Zoo day,s presently over and Cmai Immgr dept being very quite in numbers ,for any visa the Visa Agents are a busted flush as DIY IS presently a easy task.
Summing up, over the last 6 months my previous Visa Agents who i have engaged during the Zoo Days have pleasantly canvassed for my Visa business etc etc to return
Smell the coffee ,again they are a Busted Flush
"Busted Flush" . . . . "Busted Flush" . . . . "Busted Flush" . . . . "Busted Flush" . . . .
Is that the same kind of thing as "awesome"? Or is it more like "uncool"?
What language is it?
Anything to do with broken toilets?
The only "Busted Flush" I ever knew was when the chain snapped on my bog.
What connection does it have to 30 day reporting?
Expert: High COVID Cases Justify Lockdown
in Thailand News
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Mmmmm - 3rd wave . . . 4th wave . . . well Thailand's leaders have never been very good at understanding how the outside world works and how farangs do things - they try to copy it but don't get it right.
It's not just with the pandemic - just look at the Thai approach to presenting statistics - then take a close look at their systems of law, education, policing, justice, finance, and banking, for other notable examples!