jojothai

4 hours ago, mattyc1957 said:

Thought they already had a spaceport up in Yasothon.

There are a lot more in all the weed shops on every corner in parts of bangkok and other cities. 

Find a few companies to compare price.

Solarsolutions installed mine and did a good job.

Used previously by some people i know here in hua hin and recommended, before i decided

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They are based in hua hin but I understand they install all over the country.

3 hours ago, Crossy said:

 

Why not deliberately turn on export and see if the reading that's changing counts up? OK it will cost you a few Baht, but you have something to go to PEA with.

 

Digital meters can be whatever they're programmed to be. Conventional single-tariff, TOU, Export or both TOU and Export.

 

If you DO have TOU you will be being charged rather more for any daytime consumption than you were before.

Thanks Crossy,
The meter clearly has two measuring features and one is not being used at present. Zero from day 1.
The other is the one being measured. I now just have a bill to verify that. Bill only has the one reading charge.
I think my problem is that for some reason there is a small feed in from the inverter during the day.
In theory it should not be happening, but it is. When i look at the real time use on the app, i have seen the arrows  sometimes showing input to grid, negligible so I thought insignificant but that may not be the case. 

At present my strategy is to go to PEA and explain the problem. they must already know but probably will not admit it. Cannot go to PEA until about 07 august. have to be in BKK for work meetings each side of the Public Holidays,.
I will ask them what I can do to change the meter and what can I get. What about TOU?
 

Try this site

https://www.newocr.com/
OCR is generally good for Thai, but you will need to proof read.
I dont know how good the translation is.
I capture the thai text and use google and /or word document translate.

44 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

Where you start?

You know that Friday (effectively Thursday evening) the 6 day holiday break starts?

Do you know what that means in terms of traffic and domestic tourism to wherever you go?

 

Years ago I made a similar assumption: start a day or two after this late July long weekend. Won't be that bad.

Hell, what I have experienced made me firm in: NEVER AGAIN!

 

Take Note RafPinto.
Traffic on Rama 2 will be very busy.
Hua hin will be crowded.
If you drive down then take note that there are road works just before Pranburi causing delays also.
Lanes are reduced and i do not think all the road will be back open by weekend.
If you get past Makro and there is a traffic jam, then turn left at  the end of the bypass, to avoid the traffic jam go back towards hua hin a few km and turn off to the right to get across to Pranburi beach.

8 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

The button on your meter will switch the reading between import & export.  That meter records both figures separately (try reading it yourself, IMP & EXP are displayed in very small letters), If you are only being charged 10-20 baht extra then I don't think they are charging you for your export (their import). There maybe a setting that totals the readings you don't want to leave that displayed.

 

I think your extra 2 KwHr's per day are parasitic loads from your inverter and possibly other devices.  An AVR will cause that and more.

understood thanks. I tried the button and it does not seem to do anything.
The meter automatically toggles between two readings, one is reading my consumption the other is zero.
From what i can see on the meter I guess that this may be a TOU meter.

33 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

@JoJo Thai doesn't a TOU meter need two separate meter readings?  I can only see one on the picture you posted of a TOU meter with a spinning disk.

I noticed but they were  saying it was a picture of A TOU. From the comments it must not be a TOU.
I will find out when i go and ask PEA what they have.
If there are only digital TOU then I may have the same problem with excess Kwh

The digital meter i currently have, has two sets of readings but is only counting on one.
So i assume it must be a TOU, but we have not yet registered for the service.
If the same meter will be used then I still have the problem.
I have to speak to a neighbour. He has solar and they changed the meter to stop feed in,
But his meter is still the old style with the rotating disc. 

I trust that I will find out better when I go to see PEA. However TIT ????

1 minute ago, Eff1n2ret said:

When I had my problem (see above) the solar company put their hands up and admitted that they hadn't checked my type of meter when they did the installation, so they paid PEA to change it. Maybe yours will do the same?

I had the original meter that was no problem. Nothing discussed or agreed concerning the meter.
So I will have to sort this out with PEA myself.
Its PEA in Hua Hin with their attitude to solar. They said that there was a problem with my consumption too low and came around to check. When they know I have solar, they insist to change the meter. 
Even if i have not been feeding back to grid.
My installers work countrywide and they say that most places have no problem. Its Hua Hin that stands out.
I am currently looking at getting the agreement to sell power to them, so that i can get money back.

56 minutes ago, UWEB said:

TOU Meters are digital ones in this days, at least here in Prachuap.

???? Hope they are not only digital here.
I saw this picture of a TOU meter online 

11 hours ago, advancebooking said:

What sort of specialist would test for 1 and 2. Is it Urology?  I could not tolerate n.o 3

Yes, a urologist.
The problem of an enlarged prostate is referred to as benign prostatic hyperplasia or BPH.
Sheryl has helped to clarify what is normally done.
I have had tests 1 and 2  a couple of times, easy to do.

Sheryl noted about checking for any infection.
Note that if urine is remaining in the bladder, any infection you may get will not clear readily.
The first time i went to a urologist for the problem, I had an infection that would not clear by antibiotics.
The urologist prescribed the appropriate medication to use for the BPH, tamsulosin it works by relaxing the muscles in the prostate and the bladder. This eased the problem and antibiotics then cleared the infection.

Thanks for the comments.

My solar installer had now responded and confirmed that the problem is normally from any feed in.
He has said that many clients are very angry because of the problem and insisting on more solar friendly meters that don’t double charge.

He has said that I should request a TOU meter and that should fix the problem.
They spin just like the old meter.
Have to request at PEA and pay for the TOU and changing the meter.
 

37 minutes ago, BenStark said:

Buy one of these and put it on the wire that goes to the house, then you know if the PEA meter adds anything

 

https://www.lazada.co.th/products/diymore-ac-50-300v-0-100a-power-energy-meter-kwh-ac-monitor-i3125367961-s11626606840.html?

Thanks, the price is not much. Good idea

1 hour ago, gamb00ler said:

What is the brand of your inverter?

My inverter is Deye SUN-5K-SG03LP1-EU.
 

I see that you have a small export. After what you have said, and what Crossy said earlier I realize that i had not checked any export during the four days away.

i have just checked and the daily graphs show small amounts as "Feed in" totalling about 700 Watt hours a day.
This may be causing a problem with the digital meter as Crossy pointed out.
I have to figure out how to totally stop any feed in to see if it changes things.
Need to look at the inverter instructions. 

6 minutes ago, Crossy said:

You should have a main breaker on your incoming grid supply which you can pull.

 

It is of course possible that your new meter is over-reading, I think PEA do offer a check-meter but you'll have to ask them.

 

We are still on a spinning meter. I have a separate "home brew" monitoring system that uses Hiking electronic meters. That agrees with the PEA meter to within 5-10kWh per month, the guestimate from the inverters is just way off, so far off that I've not actually bothered with it for a couple of years.

Yes, the main breaker still provides to the other circuits I mentioned for airconditioner, water heaters.hob and oven.
all the other circuits go directly from the solar breaker panel.

I think i need to get them to take away the digital meter and put a spinning meter back, but one that does not reverse on feed in. They may want to check the digital meter first.

3 minutes ago, jojothai said:

I will see if i can turn off power from the grid on the inverter for next time we are away from the house, likely next weekend. I cannot see anything obvious to do this. I can ask the installation company

I will also switch off all the breakers directly connected in the original distribution board (water heaters , air conditioners, hob and oven) and leave all the breakers on in the solar distribution board. However that should not make any difference.

28 minutes ago, Crossy said:

Are you actually exporting to the grid? If so, disable export.

 

Some digital meters have been reported as counting UP if the solar is exporting ????

 

I'm afraid I would trust the calibrated/certified PEA meter more than what your inverter is telling you.

 

EDIT Since you have a hybrid could you turn off the grid power whilst you are away just to verify the meter isn't "creeping"?

Thanks Crossy. Good to hear any suggestions that you have.
I am not exporting power to grid. It is switched off. I have rechecked.

The inverter has been measuring accurately against the previous meter for over 6 months with only a small creep averaging 20Kwh per month. 
That why i have to consider the new meter as a problem. It is measuring 2Kwh  and more a day when we are away from the house and there is negligible power being used from grid, my battery is fully charged all the time when away. Just went away 4 days and came back to find the meter has gone up 12 Kwh.

I have checked the daily graphs from the inverter for power purchased during each of the 4 days and there is some small power shown purchased during the day but negligible only in the order of 50 to 100 Watthours each day.

I have to check all the settings on the inverter to see if i can identify anything that would take power from the grid. I quickly looked and cannot see anything that should.
I am on "zero export to CT" and according to the manual power should not go back to the grid.

I will see if i can turn off power from the grid on the inverter for next time we are away from the house, likely next weekend. I cannot see anything obvious to do this. I can ask the installation company

2 minutes ago, Eff1n2ret said:

There was a big pow-wow between the installers and PEA, who eventually fitted an analogue meter, problem solved. I don't understand enough about it to offer any explanation why the digital meter was incompatible with the solar installation.

Thanks, that's another potential avenue.
They fit the digital meter to prevent any reversing of the meter if you feed in to grid.
That happens with the normal meters.
I can ask if they have an analogue meter that does not reverse on feed in.
I have seen analogue meter on one of the nearby properties with solar and I was told that PEA had already changed it to prevent feed into grid.

I have a villa in Hua Hin with solar installation hybrid with a 10Kwh battery. This does me for all our needs except aircon overnight.
When PEA found out, they changed the meter to a new digital one, nearly a month ago.

The new meter is consistently adding 2Kwh per day up to 3Kwh, even when there is nobody at the house and I am not taking power from the grid.

I know the power produced, consumption, power purchased from grid, battery level, etc from the solar inverter and app.

I have had the solar installation since early December 2022 and records of parameters since then.
On the old PEA meter there was about 10 to 30 Kwh more electricity consumption reading from the monthly meter reading than from the inverter.
Over 6 months, It averaged 20 Kwh per month, and I was not concerned with. 
However now with the new  meter if there is an extra 2Kwh per day or more is 60+ Kwh per month , At 5 baht a Kwh that would be 300 + Baht per month.

I know that i can go to speak to PEA, but do not know what to expect. Has anybody had or know of a similar issue and what was done?
In western countries you can get an independent check done. If it shows extra then the electricity authority has to settle the issue and pay for the independent check.
But if the meter is found to be ok. then the consumer has to pay for the independent check.

I have no idea if there are any rights here concerning this issue. Probably not, but if anybody has knowledge i would be grateful to know.

According to thai websites, the meters provided to PEA are supposed to be accurate within certain tolerances.
I do not expect that should include for an extra 2 to 3Kwh per day.

Any advice welcome please.
I do not have anybody else tapping into my supply, there are 2 x 10 cable in and two 16 mmsq cable out to the house.
Meter shown in the attached image.

3 hours ago, RanongCat said:

Traffic allowed to travel under heavy lift construct. Who allow that?

There are many projects being built where there are massive similar activities over roads with traffic.

 Such as rama 2 elevated construction, where there was an incident not long ago. Beam dropped onto traffic.

The roads will have to be closed if the new construction techniques cannot be adopted to save disruption.

Many elevated MRT lines have been built in similar ways without many serious incidents.

The issue is not to stop this kind of technique. Its all about adequate attention to safety, and adequate supervision of the work by qualified and experienced people without brown envelopes.

On 7/2/2023 at 4:37 PM, moogradod said:

For sure they are single speed. ???? We find out one by one that a lot of changes are necessary. Like aircons (not strong enough) and maybe all of the windows and doors (a security issue). I will ask the builder. For sure it costs again a fortune to exchange them for "multi-speed". Must be the equivalent of an AC inverter - I have no knowledge about pools and their pumps.

As pointed out, the pool pumps may be consuming around 1KW each and could be a very big consumption if on all daytime.
I recommend that you have the pumps running and switch off the aircons for two to three hours. (Perhaps when you go out shopping / eating etc.
Take the meter readings before and after to see how much power they are consuming.
Mutiply to the number of hours and days for the monthly bill.
This will give you the consumption estimates for the pumps against your bill reading.

1 hour ago, redwood1 said:

 

I have seen this gecko spray on Lazada, I have no idea if its any good or not..

 

https://www.lazada.co.th/products/500ml-gecko-killer-i4354994543-s17355529029.html?

The gecko is gone ❗ Lizard repellent spray 500ml, lizard repellen

I have tried it before a long time ago.
it does not kill them.
Its a repellant, they don't like it and scamper off. I don't think it lasted very long, maybe a couple of days around  the outside porch and car port of the house in the sticks where i have most geckos.
However, you may not want to be spraying this everywhere. Try and see if you like the smell.

The best solution we used to have in the farmhouse of my wife's parents was a brother with a strong catapult.
Used to be a expert at shooting them down.

I also found Mucilin was no longer available the last one-two months.
As pointed out on here, there are other alternatives available

On 6/23/2023 at 9:44 PM, DrJack54 said:

It's part of living in Thailand.

I go with the flow.

Most I have seen posted is 500b.

Can't recall the immigration office.

 

CW is 200b and it's mailed out EMS. 

Cannot receive same day. 

I got the certificate from one stop chamchuri sq. I could not go to CW.

NOTE: they say you have to go to the office that issued your visa.

The one stop service gave me the certificate. 

Must have 90 day report.

It cost 500 baht there, no receipt.

It takes about one hour.