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Where is there a tukcom in BKK?

In Bangkok, the best bet is to head for Pantip Plaza. First, search around in the rear of the ground floor, there are numerous shops there.

I agree from all of the above it seems to be a hard drive problem. It is never wrong to delete unneeded programs and big files, to defrag and to gain more space. But 3GB should be plenty to start your computer. Since it's not starting smoothly, it's more likely that the hard drive is in the process of failing.

Only a hands-on inspection can confirm that, or maybe point to something else. Pantip is on Phetchaburi Road, in the Pratunam area. It is open every day, and every taxi driver knows it.

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Now that the police have been cleaned of Thaksin's influence maybe Red Shirt arsonists will be individually identified and prosecuted, what with some of them having been caught on video torching the place and all that it should be easy.

Not only for your post, but for way too many along the same line, this chart seems pertinent:

Monte Carlo Sir

Lucky you. I'll try to do a full check later, but just a quick check reveals that in the past week, Bangkok and Monte Carlo have had the same number of murders during the past week.

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Nope..... when the news actually broke, the news report that was pasted into TVF news section clearly said that the search was triggered on information received from a group of local red shirts who were 'concerned' that the anti-government protesters may have dumped something into the canal.

No urban myth as you put it.

Unlike you red mob, I actually go by information received...

I notice you have not made a single comment to the reds who are all creating 'urban myths' pointing to Bhudda Isara... no you wouldn't do that would you?

Your moral equivalency doesn't work, sorry. The mad monk pretty obviously didn't kill this man found in the klong. Anyone who thinks he does needs some readjustment in his thinking, as anyone who reads this thread sees clearly. But I'm dealing with a rather clever attempt to turn an invented rumour into an accepted fact and it won't fly. Your original post tried to start an urban myth. I'll stick with that one, and ignore your rather pathetic attempt to "no, no don't watch my right hand, look at the LEFT one!"

Would you like to cite that red shirt news tip for us? Your recollection that someone, best you can remember, pasted text something like that into ThaiVisa doesn't qualify as an actual source. Really it doesn't.

While you're doing that, members might like to check this tiny list of stories (from approved sources) about cleaning up Government House and finding a body that do NOT mention the red shirts, which is what you are trying to sell to members here as your own urban myth but getting some resistance.

To be clear. The National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) ordered cleanup of Government House, seconded soldiers to help with the task. During the cleanup of the grounds, the crews found a body in the klong. They also found discarded weapons and ammunition, live and spent. They also found a lot of other junk apparently tossed in the klong (i.e. not blown in by the wind). The NCPO has decided against actually using Government House, but all staff are returning to work now that cleanup, security checks and so on are complete. The NCPO has expressed satisfaction at the job done. Authorities are continuing inquiries in what seems to be a murder case.

To the best of everyone's knowledge, no red shirts were involved in any of the above except as mentioned in a message you are claiming exists somewhere on this forum.

Isn't it very strange that this info for the search came from a bunch of red shirts???

Also many spent bullet casings found, I can't remember any media report over the past 6 months telling of a prolonged gun battle at Government House..... can you?

It's not nice to start a rumour and turn it quickly into an urban legend in the middle of a thread, even a dumb thread. At the moment this is a feeble if carefully driven attempt to insert an urban legend. It deserves instant rejection by everyone. If this thread were actually monitored and policed, it wouldn't even be here any more.

AND IT ISN'T!

"The info for this search" - if that is what you must call it - came from the military commander in charge of the rehabilitation of Government House, operating under the direct order of the commander of the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO). This is a matter of very public, often stated and extremely retrievable information. How you get "red shirts" into it is known only to you - and should stay that way. Any reader accepting such a ludicrous, easily disproved statement deserves the derision he will be getting when he tries to repeat it.

I have no idea what your even wilder "spent bullet casings" paragraph is about, but there were quite a few found in the same canal, in the same vicinity as the body. Your attempt to try to get readers to link them to a specific incident, with no other possible explanation, is also noted - rejected here as it should be by everyone.

In both paragraphs, speculation is one thing, but trying to control the narrative along a single trail is just rumour-mongering.

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Rumour mongering, speculation, and other inflammatory posts have been removed.

Some, perhaps, but all of the three live, spectacularly. Highly derivative of the junta jeadquarters' promise "to treat all groups equally".

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What abt us in Bkk........ its Friday and we want to go out....

Those who have been very very naughty will stay in detention the longest.

NOW do you believe the red shirt rallies in Bangkok were not hired buffaloes from Isan?

They tried to tell you that in 2006, but did you listen? No, of course not. So now you will listen. And if you refuse to listen again, there are worse things than curfew while the rest of the country parties. Suffer and learn, or just suffer, your choice.

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Confused as always by Thai math experts. If you sell 9million tons for Baht150billion ($4.74billion) that means you got an average of Baht16,666 baht per ton, yet the article states they are getting less than $400 (B12,800), which would be nearer B115,000,000 ($3.75billion). But what the hell, it's only a billion dollars, no biggie.

There are many grades of rice, and every sale is a different price. The "average" price is meaningless. When credible stories refer to a price of rice, they are talking about 5% broken white rice. That is ONE kind of rice Thailand sells.

Also. "Thailand" isn't selling almost any of this rice. Rice traders are selling it. They are salesmen, usually from big companies, sometimes from smaller ones. They work deals like salesmen worldwide.

That was the confused part. But this is the funny part:

You have it backwards. What the story is saying (which could be right, but probably won't be) is that Thailand has full, monopoly-like control of the supply. It can then set whatever price it wants. It is always he who controls the supply that sets the price. Those who want/need rice will have to pay whatever price the monopoly rice owner sets.

If I want a phone battery and you have the entire stock of 10,000,000 phone batteries, I have to pay whatever you tell me to pay, or not have a working phone. The fact you have way, way too many phone batteries has no effect on our contract. In fact, knowing you are going to have to throw away millions of batteries only means you will increase your price to me, the hapless buyer. I say "but you have so many batteries". And you say, "Yes, I do. In fact I have them all. If you want one, you pay what I say."

In the real world we all recognise that Thailand does NOT control the world stockpile, and has to compete with others. This gives the demand side leverage. Whether Thailand's hoarding of a huge stockpile of rice can succeed as well as your huge stockpile of batteries in getting higher prices remains to be seen. Most rice people are sceptical, but never say "never".

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This is coming from someone that I had to draw a picture for because you didn't comprehend what "inside a rally site" meant.

That went on for about 4 days before I had to draw the picture.

I'm very confused. In your diagram, the phrase "person inside stadium" is placed outside the stadium.

JUST KIDDING!

That is hilarious.

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In fact, this is part of what Thailand needs, to prevent it from, as you put it, "going to hell in a basket."

Goes to show that the Military Junta, is taking positive action on many fronts, to provide the country with a, Total Rescue Package.

Why do you think the military has anything to do with this, especially since we are all commenting on an OP which *specifically* and carefully (and I might add, credibly) claims the military has nothing to do with it?

With every post like the above we are getting deeper and deeper into conspiracy land, where "they" control everything and know everything and cause everything. Just remember, if "they" cause everything, then they cause all the bad stuff, too. They caused the corruption between a driver and a policeman I saw this morning. THAT was the military junta in action. Right?

I got extra chocolate in my milkshake last night, this military regime is okay by me!!

Oh yeah? Well the wind knocked down my satellite dish in the storm last night. That never happened when Thaksin was prime minister. The military SUCKS!

The Ministry of Public Health is not only capable of ordering a crackdown on clinics. It has done so many times, and never has asked the military once. The last time it did it was yesterday.

The military, on the other hand, has no idea about clinics and never, in its entire history, has issued a single order about them, including a crackdown on the illegal ones.

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Scraping the bottom of the barrel now, quoting Khaosod English as a reliable news source.

Scraping the bottom of the barrel REFUSING to look for other sources apart from the official source authorised on this site. Not only scraping the bottom of the barrel, but once again making yourself look every silly.

It's completely your choice whether to participate in this forum. I'd like to repeat that, slowly: y-o-u-r choice. You can address this story, in effect a charge against Suthep.

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Seems to make sense. There are lots of unqualified charlatans performing medical procedures in "beauty clinics" who rely on paying off the BiB and health officials, none of whom could care less what damage is done to the health of naive customers by these criminals. Time to lock them up along with the bent cops and health officials who profited from the charlatan businesses.

You're halfway there.

As the OP points out, the way to accomplish your last sentence is to conduct investigations to root out malefaction all up and down the network. And who is better qualified to do that than the police department and the ministry of public health?

I hope by this point no one is misinformed on why this crackdown is needed after so many previous crackdowns? And why the next crackdown will also be needed?

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Please explain what land and what 100m Bht.?

This land. It was in every single Thai newspaper, on radio and TV.... heck it was even on Thai Visa. The only place it hasn't appeared is from the mouth of Mr Suthep. But the land papers are there. Until HE speaks, the documents speak for him and people with nasty minds will think the worst, just like they're entitled.

ThaiVisa link aka "the last to know": http://goo.gl/Mr91qB

And since you have no idea what "slander" is, you might as well drop that nonsense too. You're beclowning yourself all over this thread. You're as threatening as

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Probably correct.

That said, it would be better to wait for inquiry results.

While there were few sort of similar cases, and claims that they were PCAD's doing - non of them had the chance to be

thoroughly investigated yet. Hopefully this would change. Pointing fingers at the monk does seem a bit off mark, not exactly

his turf, I think.

As for weapons - they should have searched the PCAD guards before dissolving the demonstration, confiscating any illegal

weapons. May have done that, but don't recall headlines to that effect.

Now that you bring it up, the same sort of thing happened in the final days of the PAD in late 2008, the yellows of Sondhi and his mad monk. In their final demented days at the airport, bodies started turning up at the "guard posts" and thrown off the airport road bridges and so on. None of these killings was solved, of course. It's a truly weird coincidence. One must hope now that the body at Government House is the last AND the murder is accountable, both.

The other mad monk, the one of 2014, wasn't in a place to do this specific killing. But as I say, I hope they get everyone for everything, and that means this Mad Monk II has to go under the light, just like everyone else. The idea that his gang was recently sainted is of course ludicrous, Suthep lemmings to the contrary. We know they beat up several people, that's for sure.

There are more than four dozen unsolved murders and really, truly serious assaults. There are well over a dozen with no suspects at all, even by political sympathies (red, yellow, blue....). Get them all, please.

When last seen, Mad Monk 2014 was back at his Nakhon Pathom wat doing... well, the things he's been getting away with for a long time. He COULD be helping authorities with their inquiries. Let's hope he soon does so.

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I agree with what you have stated however I thought the biggest problem was that the tablets supplied are not up to the task. I read they were poorly built and often fail after a short period.

Definitely not. Among all the problems, this one was way down the list.

The single biggest problem with the tablets is that procurement is not very lucrative for anyone involved. As a local columnist put it in January: "There's no app, it seems, for greed and bureaucracy."

The second biggest problem is that the tablets because Thaksin. The press in the past six months or year have reported that students, teachers and even bosses at schools were generally very satisfied and impressed.

The third biggest problem is the Office ThaiVisa Panel Of Experts On Those Damned Kids And Their New Fangled Computer Things. The panel is empowered to rule on how technology is ruining education, and very often does so.

The fourth biggest problem is that tablets are a total scam because Thaksin.

Failure, if anything, has been less of a problem than in "normal" society.

Note the date of the second sample article. The writer didn't know it, and neither did the school, but the tablet programme had just 11 days to go before the guns came out.

Just for our peace of mind, Lumpini lake should be dredged and grounds examined for burial sites. I bet something unpleasant will be found.

Pretty good idea. Although to be fair, quite a few unpleasant somethings have been found, thank goodness no bodies.

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If the body turns out to be unrelated to the protests

A very real possibility in a city of 10 million people where unrelated-to-protests murders occur all too frequently.

No, it is a bare possibility. And I only say that because I never say "never".

The place and surrounding area where the body was found has been under constant and strong... shall we say "occupation" for quite a long time, well before the killing, which was very roughly a month ago. It's barely possible it was unrelated to the pro-Suthep mobs (plural) but the possibility is very, very close to zero that it had nothing to do with protests. When the actual pro-Suthep people were not at Government House, troops or police or some other force with protest connections WERE there. Chances this is a "10 million people in the Naked City..." event are as close to nil as possible. This is a protest murder, just as close as "damn" is to swearing.

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This has been happening for years. I believe the FCO word these things quite carefully to serve their own agenda and they know exactly what they're doing as they know how journalists will react when reading the page, but that's just my opinion...

It is very hard to believe that a hard-working civil servant or dedicated public official such as an MP would try to serve their own agenda or "cover their own ****" as a non-gentleman expressed it elsewhere. Surely these people are acting entirely in the interest of the public, concerned about their nation and constituencies, without a shred of self-serving action?

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Kids need to learn the basics first, the old fashioned way. Once they can manage without tablets/computers/calculators, then start to teach them about such devices.

Introducing these electronics too early and the kids just become reliant on them. As someone said recently, hand a cashier a 1000 baht note for a 500 baht purchase and see how long it takes them to figure out how much change is owed without resorting to electronics. Most of the time I can calculate the amount of change I should get back before the cashier has finished punching it into a calculator.

This is actually hilarious. You are saying that children who did not have electronics have grown up unable to do math, and therefore electronics should be withheld from children so they will be able to do math. Confess. You stole this from the Official ThaiVisa SubCommittee On Those Damn Kids Today, am I right?

Please spare the nonsense about "we have to educate the teachers to educate the children in the proper use of 1947 primers and arithmetic instruction because when I was a boy...." Even if a few old... advanced-experience men here nod wisely at such sage advice it is far, far beyond the possible. It's actually nonsense. It won't happen, not in your country, not in this one, not anywhere in the world, ever again. Patti Page is dead, the Beatles aren't popular and chess is probably going to replace boxing at the Olympics. It's 2014. Deal with THAT instead of "those damned kids today and their teachers...."

You can't "withhold electronics", kids today have full access to electronics. The only questions are HOW to put them into classrooms, and whether to create a sub-class of children who only have occasional access or partial access (through a cheap mobile phone with calculator built in for example) because they can't afford to have full access (a nice tablet, say).

The tablet programme was aimed at giving EVERY kid of a certain age the same, level field. There are other ways. The problem for me is that every other way is not just more expensive, but far more open to corruption than this simple, reasonably accountable one. If you think corruption was bad here... well, it wasn't. But everything after this will be, and more corrupt, too. Let's hope the "smart classroom" or other multi-gazillion baht scheme-plus-commission will help the kids.

The idea that you could "start to teach" today's children about tablets/computers/calculators (calculators? really?) is as hilarious as your insistence that withholding electronics will teach math, when in fact you document that it already hasn't, back in the century you're stuck in.

The average really poor Thai kid who doesn't have a computer at home could teach YOU about a computer, I think.

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Buyers buy on price. If they can get the same quality from elsewhere at a lower price, that is where they will spend their money. It could be that the days of Thailand being able to charge a premium are over,

"I can't have more tea since I haven't had any tea," said Alice.

There never was a day Thailand could charge a premium. Thailand always, including this morning, has charged what the market will bear, and the market has paid what he had to. Rice plus packing plus shipment = price.

It's simple. It's supply and demand. Thailand never could charge a premium, it could only charge what rice was worth.

Better rice of higher quality gets a higher price, imagine that. That's why Thailand grows a lot of better rice of higher quality. It also grows regular old broken rice. The better rice costs more, sometimes quite a bit more than the inferior rice. Imagine that! And if no one wants the rice, then it's worth nothing at all. And if sellers set a price too high and refuse to sell at market prices, then the rice is worth nothing at all.

All Thai rice always got, still gets and will get the price the market will bear - not a baht more or less, just like always. The only reason anyone buys Thai rice is that buyers believe and accept that its quality and availability are worth the price they are willing to pay.

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