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3 minutes ago, rkidlad said:

So you have confirmation that the UK authorities tested the t-shirt and found no evidence? If you do, that would really help. 

According to the article someone tested the shirt. You can’t find DNA evidence without doing DNA analysis. The shirt was handed over weeks ago to the UK police for DNA analysis. Thai police only just got back. 

It could be a test done one in Thailand but it could also very likely be a test done in the UK as was planned.

But several people are already jumping to the conclusion that it must have been done in Thailand. Meaning in their minds the analysis is invalid. 

53 minutes ago, Kerryd said:

Do you really think the "professional" police in the UK would take a rape complaint, complete with (alleged) DNA evidence, and then do absolutely nothing because they are scared to their knickers about the "Koh Tao mafia" ?

It’s the same story as the murders. When the UK police get involved and come to a conclusion that is the opposite of the conspiracy theories then the UK police must be in on it too. 

Like you said, the UK has no problems facing up to Russia but if we are to believe this theory they will cover up evidence of a UK citizen’s rape if it was done in Koh Tao.

13 hours ago, cass74 said:

The UK police and FO have been totally done by the Thai police.  Probably had guarantees the case was being took seriously and the DNA would be tested.

 

 

Why are you assuming that the DNA analysis was done by the Thai police? Bear in mind the family yesterday suggested that the British police were in on it too. And the family several weeks ago said they had handed the t-shirt over. 

2 hours ago, Kerryd said:

Then the story changed again to she'd gone for a walk on the beach with the guy

What’s the source for this? I heard the first two but haven’t seen this yet. 

50 minutes ago, Golden Triangle said:

A breakdown of the nationalities would be helpful, I would think that 98% would be from bordering countries.

Exactly. With no breakdown of nationality it was probably a raid on a couple of construction sites where they found documentation wasn’t kept properly plus the usual amount of overstayers who get arrested for other offenses. 

2 hours ago, rkidlad said:

Boycott Kho Tao.

The people who would boycott Koh Tao are the people who wouldn't normally go there anyway.

5 hours ago, rkidlad said:

This thread is about an alleged rape of a young English girl. Not the murder of Hannah and David. Go and discredit news sources on the relevant threads. 

This thread is about the rape, though you and some others have been bringing up "suspicious" deaths to support a view that the island is very dangerous.

1 minute ago, rkidlad said:

Yes, it’s all on the Samui Times. But it was The Times Newspaper who recorded the girl saying she tried to report the rape on Kho Pangan but the police officer there refused to do so. Samui Times fault? It must be......

What the Times reported and her interview was objective and factual. 

Look at ST’s first article by comparison. They posted about a rape and posted photos of a man they suggest was the rapist, one who they said was shown holding a hoe at the scene of the murders. This was completely untrue, it was a different person. 

ST was immediately jumping to the conclusion that not only was she raped, not only was it a Thai, but also it one was one of the people who they think was involved in the murders. They immediately linked it to their murder conspiracy. 

ST has a history of doing this and they don’t retract or correct stories. That creates a huge amount of confusion when people Google to get info on these cases. 

6 minutes ago, mauGR1 said:

Sorry, let me explain pls.

"if she was in any sort of pain would of screamed out for help."

That's a ( reasonable ) assumption from Happy Chappie, based on what we know from the news.

Thanks for clarifying. 

Reason I asked is her own words should be quite important as she was the only one that saw the whole thing from start to finish who can give a statement. 

From what she said it started as playing and then changed to something else. As to why she didn’t cry out, she said she couldn’t breathe. 

That doesn’t excuse what Jose did at all, of course. 

On 10/9/2018 at 8:21 AM, RonniePickering22 said:

 

You really couldn't be further from the truth.

 

Actually its about truth and justice.

I believe it’s about truth and justice from some of the well-intentioned posters here as they sincerely believe what they have read about such cases. 

But unfortunately they’ve been fed a pack of lies by truly shady people. 

On 10/9/2018 at 8:35 AM, rkidlad said:

They're suspicious because they're suspicious. One suspicious case can be written off. Several suspicious cases are the very definition of 'suspicious'. 

 

Trick me once........

Any death can be suspicious if one keeps asking more questions and refuses to believe the answers. That’s the unfortunate case with KT, especially with the agenda being pushed by Samui Times that tricks a lot of people into believing disinformation. 

As I mentioned, Samui and Pattaya are much worse but no one is calling Samui death island. 

16 hours ago, happy chappie said:

The girl said they were only playing and if she was in any sort of pain would of screamed out for help.

Has she come out with a new statement?

The statement she made before only said they were playing at first and then she was lifted up by her neck and couldn’t breathe.

In that statement she didn’t say if she was in pain she would have screamed for help. 

6 hours ago, RonniePickering22 said:

 

Newspapers are in the business of selling advertising space and the Samui Times makes money from the ads of local businesses on the islands.

 

It would have made more by leaving this story alone....none of the businesses want to see less tourism as news of a rapist and murderer on the loose is printed and fed to the world's media.

We wouldn’t be taking about Samui Times without all this manufactured drama and controversy. It’s one of countless small websites and blogs out there. 

Can you name withiut looking the biggest Phuket and Chiang Mai websites? Probably not as they aren’t nearly as sensationalist. 

It’s also more than just money as such websites don’t make a fortune. It’s about power, control, and a personal agenda. 

1 hour ago, rkidlad said:

You understand how newspapers and the media work, right? 

 

A girl has alleged she was raped. She’s been dismissed and she’s kept going. Now it seems we are learning more. This is what happens when people do their jobs properly. 

So do you believe that it’s good and helpful for Samui Times and others to present one side of the story to try and draw readers to a specific conclusion?

The girl wasn’t dismissed. The police said there’s no evidence. There’s a clear difference. 

24 minutes ago, rkidlad said:

Great. And you say they’re pushing an agenda? What are you doing? 

Not sure what their agenda is but they are definitely biased in what they choose to say about issues on the islands. 

A reputable source of info should present all available facts. Not just those which support one side or another. 

10 minutes ago, rkidlad said:

I don’t think I’ve read the Samui Times once. 

 

As long as many are having a good time, that’s all that matters. 

The UK papers have quoted them extensively when it came to this and the murders so if you read articles from The Sun and others you’ve been reading Samui Times info. 

5 hours ago, AleG said:

Among other things, money, it sells "news".
The moral panic surrounding Koh Tao is in large part the result of the people behind the Samui Times, one of which is very active in this thread, pushing an agenda.  They manufacture controversy and then profit from it.

There’s also a lot of sour grapes there. 

Funny how with Thailand after some people leave they get so upset that they have to attack the country at every turn. It’s like dealing with a jilted ex-lover. 

19 minutes ago, Thian said:

Because no Chinese were hurt.....

Or Westerners. If it had been Westerners then it would be a BBC and CNN headline and the government would have to announce crackdown number 2311. 

6 minutes ago, JLCrab said:

How can there be a scapegoat when she says that she saw the guy?

 

"A Thai guy was standing over me. As I woke up he just smiled at me and then he took off."

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/koh-tao-teen-drugged-raped-13211468

If you listen to the Times interview she did, she said the guy might have just noticed her and come up to her. She wasn’t sure. 

On 10/5/2018 at 6:48 PM, jimmynewbie said:

Hands tied behind back and hung called  'suicide'

All of these cases have been discussed many times on TV. 

For example this one. A quick google search shows that hands tied is not uncommon when someone had previous failed attempts. And there was a suicide note written in French to his family. Unless the Koh Tao mafia employed a team of multilingual thugs who can forge handwriting in multiple languages it was most certainly a suicide.