one of the motivating factors for police to do this is the commissions to be had now that they cannot even hit all the bars and gogo's for monthly fees LOL.

some of it is justified some not.

i am hesitant to use my condo pool even though nobody has been in it for 2 weeks and using it would present no covid risk at all.  but thinking about a neighbor hoping to get some fast cash for reporting me and a 40k fine is making it not worth it.

20 hours ago, Logosone said:

On 4/6/2020 at 3:25 PM, candide said:

This is bad news. If it can be transmitted to animals, the virus can evolve in an unknown way and possibly be transmitted back to humans.

Well, that's exactly what happened, it evolved, possibly in cats or ferrets until it could be transmitted to humans. And it was.

 

And yes, it is very, very, very bad news.

 

But good news, mosquitos are not carriers.

 

However, cats are a real danger.

tis perhaps the saddest day in history for forum members that will need to stay away from pussy-cats

On 4/6/2020 at 10:36 AM, mikebike said:

Am I they only one wondering how a cat got tested in the USA when there is a shortage of tests for humans? ????

highly likely via research channel as it is super important in such an outbreak. if few or no symptoms then can study animal to understand why and may help find solution for people.

yup my gf er doctor already told me that

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

1 hour ago, atyclb said:

 

hint;  many medicines are legally available without a prescription in thailand and many other countries.

 

hint; what they decided to do was based upon the consensus from thousands of doctors worldwide that are treating covid 19 patients

 

doctors themselves are advocating same for themselves and family members.

 

 

 

enjoy your antithetical critical thinking

 

 

Your first 'Hint', yes I know, but then are these particular medicines amongst those or are you speaking without knowing. 

 

Your second 'Hint'. I'm not at all sure on what basis you claim 'what they decided to do...'? Perhaps you can provide us with the evidence to back up your statement. 

 

I'm not at all sure what doctors are doing, and I'm not inclined to accept your word or that of any other stranger on the internet. 

 

obviously drugs spoken of in context of this thread/article

did post #9 on this thread mean anything to you?

ditto above

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

17 minutes ago, atyclb said:

 

your reply in of itself is reasonable but in the context of replying to the items/issues i listed is bizarre and avoids what i listed.

 

surely if you search online can find some face to face doctors that are warped leftist trump haters willing to capitalize on seeing similar belief  patients happy to not receive the currently worldwide used drugs.

 

there is an ever growing international body of evidence that the drugs are helping covid 19 patients granted there are no multiyear double blind randomized peer reviewed studies

and you are very welcome to use that criteria to refuse those drugs.

That jumbled mess doesn't make any sense. 

Why would I search on line for a doctor to tell me anything? I have catogorically stated I will only seek advice from flesh and blood doctors who I consult face to face.

if there is such a thing as "intellectual rape" i am a victim

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

A number of TVF members have posted accounts of their purchases of these medicines, providing directions and maps to pharmacies that are selling these medicines and in some cases posting photos of their personal stock of these medicines. 

hint;  many medicines are legally available without a prescription in thailand and many other countries.

hint; what they decided to do was based upon the consensus from thousands of doctors worldwide that are treating covid 19 patients

doctors themselves are advocating same for themselves and family members.

enjoy your antithetical critical thinking

6 hours ago, Tug said:

Let’s all hope it’s helping and not harming 

wowwwww

a reasonable post

2 hours ago, Das Boot said:

Well one thing is certain.  As a result of Trump spouting about the drug, with or without any scientific evidence of its efficacy.  There has been a nationwide run on the drug leaving long time users for malaria & Lupus unable to renew their prescriptions.  And now, the main supplier (40%) of the drug to the US (India) have banned all exports of the drug.  Their crisis is looming & they are conserving resources. So the drug is going to be even more difficult to source.  A president's comments carry a lot of weight & influence.  The ramifications can be profound and widespread.  They should be well considered, not just childish verbal diahorrea for self aggrandizement. 

and suppose an india company developed an excellent vaccine for covid 19, then trump must shut up and not mention it out of concern indian will ban exporting it?

superbly flawed logic

6 hours ago, parafareno said:

so they will give this, plus 2 very strong antibiotics plus 2 aids drugs.....good luck surviving sideeffects...

please define "strong antibiotic" vs "weak antibiotic"

6 hours ago, tomazbodner said:

Dogs and cats can get it, and in some research they have found virus in cat's excrement 2 weeks after infection. Neither cat nor dog showed any symptoms of infection, though. There was an article about it a few days back, I think ThaiVisa had it posted as well, asking sick people to stay away from pets...

can dogs / cats transmit it to humans?  lots of soi dogs  a loose 

my theory on low mortality rate / known cases;

many covid positive untested die first from head trauma while riding motorbikes with face masks but no helmets

a "darwin skewed" curve

11 hours ago, Susco said:

11 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

Look up "per capita". Hint: I bet we have more infections that Bhutan as well.

I did it for you

 

 

 

But this is the more interesting stat.

 

nice that you found the chart but you did not address bhutan which was in the equation

please help me to understand your statement "But this is the more interesting stat." as it relates to bhutan/ original question posed

10 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

21 minutes ago, atyclb said:

 

thank you for validating what i wrote "hindsight is 20/20"

Learn to read, I validated nothing.

 

More stupidity of Trump:

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2018/05/10/top-white-house-official-in-charge-of-pandemic-response-exits-abruptly/?fbclid=IwAR2hXdXtk_Xc4i6LrjFDUP1QoOE7hfeKU6xnOUC_YAHKXh4-DnJSHQGgNxI

 

hmmm washinton post article

now if you'd shown me a link to cnn i'd really take it as gospel

trying to better understand the guy that left let me say i salute him for service in a 3 decade military career

but

i cannot see any studies/degrees in health fields eg; epidemiology, public health, etc etc.  perhaps he wasn't the best asset for such a position

"Ziemer completed a 30 year career in the U.S. Navy as a naval aviator and commanded several squadrons, air wings and naval stations. He also commanded the Mid-Atlantic Region which is responsible for supporting the world’s largest fleet concentration which includes 110 ships, 275 aircraft and over 105,000 personnel.  During his service, he served as Deputy Director for Operations on the Joint Staff and was responsible for planning and response for crisis operations at the National Military Command Center. 

Admiral Ziemer was born in Sioux City, Iowa, and raised in Asia, the son of missionary parents serving in Vietnam. After college, he joined the Navy, completed flight school, and returned to Vietnam during the war where he flew 550 combat sorties in support of the Navy Seals and riverine forces.

Ziemer holds a degree in History from Wheaton College in Illinois, an honorary Doctor of Humanities from Georgetown University,  and served as a Senior Fellow at the Naval War College National Security Strategic Studies Group."

https://www.usaid.gov/who-we-are/organization/tim-ziemer

10 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

19 hours ago, atyclb said:

 

quote from story. "NEW YORK (Reuters) - Staff at Wyckoff Heights Medical Center in New York City were seen disposing of their gowns and caps and other protective wear in a sidewalk trash can on Thursday after wheeling bodies out of the hospital and loading them into a refrigerated truck."

 

if you believe the story it seems the ppe was put into the unmarked bin.  from what i can see there are no markings on the bin unless on the lower 1/4 not seen in photo and there are markings on walls in photo either.

 

if you can come up with a photo that shows this bin/area is somehow marked, it will add teeth to your argument/point.

I truly don't understand why these leftists are making this mole hill into a mountain. Instead of simply observing obvious reality and moving on, it's deny deny deny. Really, this thread should have but a few replies- people noting the improper disposal, not making much of it because health care workers are slammed right now, and simply moving on. Instead, they essentially FORCE us rational people to point out the policies on handling infectious waste, pointing out the trash can isn't labeled and other rudiments that one should know before diving into the issue.

agree. imo a rather petty argument without teeth from a so called health care worker no less