TehBen

Has anybody had one delivered with liner included yet?

Has anybody had one delivered with liner included yet?

No, had mine about 1mnth and still no liner. Said they weren't ready when picked it up and no phone call yet to say it is ready.

Though when I asked about a boot liner, he said they have them in Silom

Might have just been a bad spark plug as I have had them fail in the past as well. Sounds like the air filter was black, not the plug.

I did some work on mine a few days ago and put the tank on and kinked the fuel line between the tank and the airbox, so it had about 1kms of fuel in it before it died on the bypass.

If the plug was fine when it was changed, then there is little chance it would be any different when it was dropped off.

Spoke to the girls at the dealership near me today concerning accessories. They weren't too sure even what came as standard on the XLT (I think I may have had a better idea than some of them), and when we asked about prices they disappeared for 30 minutes, only to return with a web page printout and a hastily drawn up table of some rough estimates.

I wasn't too happy with this service so called up the Silom dealership (I thought Bangkok dealerships were likely to have a better idea of what is going on) and they said that most of the accessories are not available in Thailand right now and won't be for at least another 4 months.

Though when I asked about a boot liner, he said they have them in Silom (the chachoengsao branch said they would try and find one for us, lucky me )...

I quite like it. A little more expensive than it probably should be, but the food is fine.

Did you eat with your straight jacket on or off ?

Actually I thought the chicken was properly cooked and succulent, the steaks are nice if not cooked as well as they could be, and the salad bar is well stocked and good value for money (being free with the meal and including pastas, soup and quite a lot of other stuff).

However, it is not a high end restaurant and never will be, as long as you go in looking for a half decent steak with some nice trimmings without breaking the bank, you won't be disappointed.

Sorry, you are right, for some reason I immediately thought of Sizzler. God knows how I got the 2 confused.

my mistake, seems I misread the title. The food has never been that great, my apologies.

1st time I have bought a new car, too. I can't wait!

Thanks, I guess

Though I won't find out until tomorrow if it is accepted. I'm not over the moon paying 820k ish for a car priced at 699, but it is the way it has got to be at the moment.

Sorry, was trying to be constructive and congratulatory, I tend to cut things a bit short sometimes

No apology necessary, I didn't mean for that to sound sarcastic; though reading it back it kinda did, sorry. The finance was approved today, so I will be picking the car up in 3 weeks hopefully. Thanks for the advice.

Thanks, I guess

Though I won't find out until tomorrow if it is accepted. I'm not over the moon paying 820k ish for a car priced at 699, but it is the way it has got to be at the moment.

Quick question for all you experts.

Submitted a finance request last Saturday on a 699 2dr XLT, 10% down, 6 years.

Should be granted or denied today, but the finance man phoned up yesterday saying that the 3.8% interest figure we were told was wrong, and it should actually be 3.9%.

My questions are, can he actually do that after we have signed the documents already and submitted the request (he was actually there at the time, too).

And is that the right figure or can it be negotiated?

We have called another dealership to see what they offer for a comparison, but they have yet to get back to us, seeing as it is 8am...

assuming you signed blank forms, yep, thats what they do if you are on the edge of approval, higher risk, higher interest. Better than a no

if you want a second opinion you need to check with another dealer using another financecompany

and if you move up to 20% down, you should get 3,15% at 72 months without prior car finance history

on the other hand I just had interest reduced from 2,45 asking by mazda to 2,15 delivered from Tanachart, due to good history with Tanachart and 10/10 reports on my Th creditcard. 20% down

Thanks for the response, I guess I should just go with it then.

Tanachart came out much more expensive, and after ringing the Prachinburi dealership, they said that they can only do 3.95% on 10% down over 6 years.

Quick question for all you experts.

Submitted a finance request last Saturday on a 699 2dr XLT, 10% down, 6 years.

Should be granted or denied today, but the finance man phoned up yesterday saying that the 3.8% interest figure we were told was wrong, and it should actually be 3.9%.

My questions are, can he actually do that after we have signed the documents already and submitted the request (he was actually there at the time, too).

And is that the right figure or can it be negotiated?

We have called another dealership to see what they offer for a comparison, but they have yet to get back to us, seeing as it is 8am...

I quite like it. A little more expensive than it probably should be, but the food is fine.

Did you eat with your straight jacket on or off ?

Actually I thought the chicken was properly cooked and succulent, the steaks are nice if not cooked as well as they could be, and the salad bar is well stocked and good value for money (being free with the meal and including pastas, soup and quite a lot of other stuff).

However, it is not a high end restaurant and never will be, as long as you go in looking for a half decent steak with some nice trimmings without breaking the bank, you won't be disappointed.

I quite like it. A little more expensive than it probably should be, but the food is fine.

Just got back from the Ford garage in Chachoengsao. After a bit of negotiation we managed to get the normal promotion on the 2.2 opencab XLT (chrome number plate, mats, insurance and film), plus 50% of the cost of the boot liner and a full tank of gas, hypothetically. I tried to push for the free liner but she wouldn't budge. I'm not that happy, but at least she said that if there are any more promotions available by the time we pick the car up, she will add them to the list. It's all verbal, though, so I am still dubious.

Thanks for the responses.

I just got one from the Imm office in Chachoengsao; it's never really that busy and even with 10 people waiting I was asked what I was there for within 10 seconds of walking through the door.

I took 2 copies of a number of pages of my passport including photo page, visa, departure/arrival card, 90 day slip. 2 copies of my rental agreement. 2 copies of my work permit including 2 copies of the address page which were not used/needed. Plus 2 passport photos.

They gave me back a lot of that stuff, eventually using only 1 copy of the rental agreement in fact, though I did also provide the originals of everything for verification.

Since I didn't even have time to grab the form to fill in they took all the documents I had, went through them all to check them and filled in the forms themselves, only asking for my signature when it was all completed. It took about 25 minutes in total and cost me 300 baht. I didn't ask why it cost so much for something that is supposed to be free as they normally fast track our 90 days through within seconds of walking through the door most of the time, so they can be quite helpful. Though there is one guy in there that isn't, and seems to deliberately slow things down to assert authority. As to who that is I will not say on here and leave it to your imaginations...

Other than him I have nothing but praise for the guys working there, it is always quick, efficient and fair.

So, 2 copies of everything + 300 baht + 25 minutes and the certificate is handed to me.

This is the accessories price list but it's in Thai

Went for a test drive earlier today in the DC 2.2 MT XLT, which gave me a smile.

What turned it upside down was the saleswoman who had no idea of accessories, or even the specs of the model we were driving.

She grabbed the booklet and spent a few minutes looking through it, put it down and said 'mats and boot liner'...

Considering it is not like I am in there looking to buy half a kilo of oranges, I was a little dissapointed.

Going to print this photo out and take it in for a bit of negotiation next time... I think my mind is made up on the Ranger.

If you can get the sales lady to chuck in a bed liner free on the XLT. Grab it. We had to pay THB 6,200 extra for the bedliner, but we did the mats and a few other things

Without negotiating when we first saw the 2.2 XLT we asked what was free, she (a different saleswoman) said: Scuff plates, boot liner, insurance, registration, 500 baht of diesel, floor mats and something else that I can't remember right now. I'm going to try and see if I can get at least a full tank of diesel and wind deflectors but from what I read on here others have not been that lucky with the free stuff. I would like the 'sports bar' thing too...

Since I will be financing the vehicle for more than 3 years I guess that means I have a little more bargaining power? With the dealership standing to gain more from me than the average cash or short term finance buyer? Is that right?

Could somebody more knowledgeable on buying new cars (this will be my first 'new' car) advise me as to how to approach it.

Do I start by asking for a number of different things, then walk out if they refuse and wait for a phone call, or what?

This is the accessories price list but it's in Thai

Went for a test drive earlier today in the DC 2.2 MT XLT, which gave me a smile.

What turned it upside down was the saleswoman who had no idea of accessories, or even the specs of the model we were driving.

She grabbed the booklet and spent a few minutes looking through it, put it down and said 'mats and boot liner'...

Considering it is not like I am in there looking to buy half a kilo of oranges, I was a little dissapointed.

Going to print this photo out and take it in for a bit of negotiation next time... I think my mind is made up on the Ranger.

Thanks for the replies.

As for the wading capabilities , the Ranger is a clear winner but would you risk going in water of 0.5m ?? Also , this year was not normal for the floods , in some parts of Thailand , so this have to be neglected as chances are you will never see the same problems again .

Yeah, I didn't specifically mean driving through deep water, I just meant with the heavy rains causing increased damage to roads, the possibility of driving through muddy backroads around Issan and the occasional and inevitable pothole...

Test drive in the 4dr Ranger 2WD (only model available) planned for this week.

Just booked a 1.6S 5dr but as we were walking out we came across an 'All New Ranger'; the 2.2 XLT Open Cab Hi-Rider in Black which looked really good. The reason I went for the Fiesta was mainly running costs (aside from looks, practicality, features and safety), but with the model mentioned above being exactly the same price but with a lot more metal for the money (albeit without the bells and whistle of the top Fiesta), and good interior and exterior looks to boot, I have been doubting my choice.

I know this isn't the best place to post this question, but I will anyway. Will the running costs on a new Ranger be substantially more that the 1.6S Fiesta? Obviously the fuel consumption would boost costs a little, but I hear the comsumption on the Ranger to be quite good (comparitively). In reality I would only be using the car/truck on weekends and for the occasional long journey up north, so I guess FC would not be a huge issue...

Will you have passengers in the rear? Put the seat right back in both vehicles and see the difference. I'm 189 cm and can sit in both the front and back comfortably in the ranger (even with the seat mostly back). In the fiesta i could not get my feet behind the front seat with it all the way back,

It seems to me you will be getting more vehicle for your money with a ranger - I'm thinking of trading my sedan in for a 3.2 this year- better for the bad flooded roads here and loads of power on tap.

I assume you mean the 4dr? I have been looking at the open cab version. I expect the leg room to be very similar, and in fact I doubt that the rear bench will be used that much actually.

Well, to be frank, neither and both!

I have a CBR for travelling around the local area, so it won't be used for commuting.

It will be used for probably weekly or bi-weekly shopping/cinema trips/dining outisde of the local area, and the 400km trip back home (Issan) 3 times per year.

So really I do not need a big pickup, but if the Ranger is cheaper to run, as well as being a little more capable if things next year turn out like they did this year with the floods and has the ability to navigate the dodgy roads if it came to it, then that would have to be the one to go for.

The Fiesta might be more fun and certainly a little more luxurious, but it is still a small car.

I've spoken to the saleswoman and we are free to change our order if we so desire so thats ok...

Resurreting this old thread as I am looking to get a residency certificate tomorrow.

Is the information above still current?

Can I still get a residency certificate from my local immigration office?

I am a British citizen, 29 years old, Non-imm B Visa with WP.

If I can it would make the difference between a 30 second walk from work, or a very early 2 hour bus ride to Bkk, so please say yes!

Thanks for the advice.

I haven't yet confirmed the colour, and with what you guys are saying I am leaning towards switching to the Ranger now. Comparitively speaking the Fiesta has more 'things' for the money, what with the ipod/usb thing, voice controlled stereo (that I will never use), dual clutch gearbox, etc. But the Ranger could possibly be more practical.

I will rarely have people in the back of the car and it will mostly be used for long trips up north 3 or 4 times a year. I have no reason to need the carrying capacity of the Ranger, but it would be handy to get rid of these sandbags that nobody wants anymore...

I would prefer a manual 'box, as I would like a little more control and therefore 'fun', but the dual clutch system in the Fiesta seems to be a decent compromise. The Ranger, while being a good looking car with a great interior, will most likely be less enjoyable to drive, being a heavy diesel.

The other issue is safety. As I understand it, the Fiesta S has the curtain airbags (? not sure now), passenger airbags, headrest accident thing (when it moves forward to reduce whiplash), seatbelts all round, ABS, stability control, traction control and (importantly) an alarm/immobiliser.

The Ranger (2.2 XLT Hi-Rider Open) has ABS (+ stability?), seatbelts in the front only (obviously), airbags for driver and passenger, and central locking.

The two models I am comparing (possibly unfairly) are the 5Dr Fiesta S (not plus), and the Ranger Open Cab 2.2L Hi-rider XLT; as both are the same price.

Just booked a 1.6S 5dr but as we were walking out we came across an 'All New Ranger'; the 2.2 XLT Open Cab Hi-Rider in Black which looked really good. The reason I went for the Fiesta was mainly running costs (aside from looks, practicality, features and safety), but with the model mentioned above being exactly the same price but with a lot more metal for the money (albeit without the bells and whistle of the top Fiesta), and good interior and exterior looks to boot, I have been doubting my choice.

I know this isn't the best place to post this question, but I will anyway. Will the running costs on a new Ranger be substantially more that the 1.6S Fiesta? Obviously the fuel consumption would boost costs a little, but I hear the comsumption on the Ranger to be quite good (comparitively). In reality I would only be using the car/truck on weekends and for the occasional long journey up north, so I guess FC would not be a huge issue...

I don't think there is a thermal cut-off relay. I think that there is just a relay that is activated by pressure (or lack of).

If the pressure activated relay was working correctly there would be little opportunity for a thermal cut-off to be activated.

With fear of sounding a little harsh, the information provided above should be enough for people who have some knowledge of the legalities of lease agreements in Thailand to post their thoughts or suggestions. Though I do understand that it would be important to view a copy of the rental agreement, you could assume that it is a standard agreement that does not specifically refer to any unreasonable responsibilities on the part of the lessee, and therefore make a judgement based on your own experience of lease agreements.

So far I have received 3 replies, none of which attempting to answer the question I posed.

In any case, the matter is now closed as I have repaired the water pump myself.

Thats what I thought. But seeing as I am not a registered plumber and was not directed to unplug the pump whenever x scenario happens, my question was whether a 'reasonable' person would be expected to know that it was faulty.

Like I said, I will almost certainly end up paying for it, and I would rather that than god knows how long and how much to take it to court, but I was curious...

Edit: In reply to the above, I have no idea. I expect you know more about it than me. All I know is I came home and there was smoke everywhere and I am pretty sure it is/was coming from the pump. It smells like a motor has burnt out. I don't know anything about plumbing or pumps, but I recognise that smell.

I would hazard a guess that continued usage, as in + 1 hour, that pump was not designed for, but I could be (and probably am) wrong.

Hi,

I've just arrived home to find my water pump dead. Smoke everywhere.

At a guess I would say that the water pressure dropped again and the pump continued to pump air (or tried to) until it eventually overheated and failed. It has done this before and we have had to unplug it manually to stop it burning out. This time, however, there was nothing we could do as we weren't to know that the water pressure would drop while we were out. Also, I am sure that pumps should have safety cut-offs installed in case this happens...

So I called the landlady and she said that it is our responsibility and we should have unplugged it. Even though we obviously were not in.

My view is that we did not do anything unreasonable and it was impossible to prevent on our behalf unless we unplug the pump whenever we are not using water.

From a legal standpoint it seems like a grey area and the possibility that the pump was faulty and therefore failed to cut off the power if there is no water pressure would only lead to us being responsible for 'inaction', with it being something that we should know or find out.

I know I am going to have to pay for it, but I would like to know if anyone could advise us on the true legal position that we are in. Do I have a point thinking that it is unreasonable for us to be expected to know that it may overheat, or is it a breakage due to 'inaction' on our part?

NB. I have lived in this house for 4 years now have paid a fair amount in repairs for general wear and tear.

Section 562. The hirer is liable for any loss or damage caused to the property hired by his own fault or by the fault of persons living with him or being his subhirer.

But he is not liable for loss or damage resulting from proper use.