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I believe you would find a great many instances where the PMs orders have not been followed. He possibly assumes that everyone behaves as if they were in the army and allows orders so he doesn't need any checking mechanism. The odd thing to me is that even with a SNAFU of this magnitude, no one in high places, such as agriculture or trade ministers will take responsibility and resign for running departments that simply are not fit for purpose. They will just dump at the little guys who have got so used to sleeping on the job through lax supervision and lack of accountability they are starting to resemble long distance bus drivers!
"The odd thing to me is that even with a <deleted!> of this magnitude, no one in high places, such as agriculture or trade ministers will take responsibility and resign for running departments that simply are not fit for purpose."
To me this is not odd at all. What would be epically odd would be for anyone to actually take responsibility for their actions.
Indeed. Consider the contrast between Thailand and Japan, two of the world's most Buddhist countries.
In Japan, taking responsibility and offering to resign is expected. In Thailand, avoiding responsibility is expected.
Can you imagine, given the failure of this rice auction and the attendant embarrassment, if the current Commerce minister stepped up to a microphone today, apologized to the country, and resigned?
(Now I would say Japan is probably the exception, and government officials in most places show an incredible tenacity for holding on.)
"Can you imagine, given the failure of this rice auction and the attendant embarrassment, if the current Commerce minister stepped up to a microphone today, apologized to the country, and resigned?"
I do have a lively imagination but that's too much even for me!
I'd rather see him made personally inspecting all warehouses still used, crawling through piles of sacks of rice, opening quiet a few of them, using the same tools and 'protective' clothing the normal workers there use.
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"First forum on draft charter hears a slew of concerns"
So what! The charter has been written, copies have been printed, teachers etc have been "educated", and the ballot tickets have been printed plus the referendum date is final.
Therefore, complain as much as you want because the military ain't changing anything.
Oh I'm sure the NCPO is willing to delay the referendum for another year if the public thinks that's a good idea
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Still looking for more information on the visit of EP delegation chairman Mr. Langen with eight MEPs to Bangkok.
I found this KhaoSod article from the 19th this month.
http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1463630249
Nothing yet on the AFET commissions website, seems too busy with other things. Maybe the delegation had nothing to do with AFET, but was just a group of eight MEPs interested in Bangkok. A search on 'bangkok' on the EC website doesn't give anything newer than 2013 though. Maybe some members here are able to dig up more details on the visit 18/19 May 2016 ?
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"Well, it's save to assume you came with reasoning to blame the junta again. IMHO."
You mean while discussing an article about the unhappiness of the people of the NE after the junta overthrew the elected government it's unreasonable to blame the junta???
What is unreasonable is taking for granted that having an unelected government is a major source of their unhappiness, when there are so many other factors of much higher significance to daily life.
Good to see you have rubl's back - you dwindling band of junta supporters need each other's support.
So, where has this been taken for granted and how come you can speak for the rural poor regarding what factors have a significance in their daily lives? How have you gained this profound knowledge (I must admit I'm impressed)?
PS. Please urge rubl to be straight regarding why he's supporting the junta. You admitted that you don't care who's in power as long as it's not Thaksin, but rubl doesn't have the reproductive stones to admit this. Kudos to you BTW for admitting this - you're the only junta supporter so far that has been honest.
Please refrain from such insinuations. The very fact I have an opinion different from yours and a few other 'nice' posters here doesn't make me a junta supporter, nor a fascist, nor someone who should be ashamed of himself, etc., etc. Just someone with a different opinion.
Now back to the OP we do not have much to go on. Blaming the junta is easy, but possibly a drying up of the 870 billion Baht Pheu Thai paid directly to rice farmers is more of a reason.
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Aside from bizarre Fan boy love who feel she is even accountable to unelected gun men running the Nation .
What's even sillier these days is the naked emperor illusion
That they pretend in some screwed up universe they have the higher moral ground .?
That somehow a woman elected by 15 million people and Still hugely loved and considered internationally (as ay least an enduring symbol of when Thailand was free.) is tarnishing their image?
I mean digging up corpses and tier 3 (and human rights groups ) ....and draconian article 44 laws and arrests ?
It's gross such a beautiful woman is even associated with thugs pretending to represent a nation ( if only by their demands she stop telling the world about their activities)
Well, democracy died the day she was impeached and asked to show the accountability which goes with being in charge and being responsible. That has nothing to do with being elected, being pretty, being loved. Ask Silvio Berlusconi.
Still no info on the EP Commission for Foreign Affairs website. AS if they didn't want it known they came here for an exchange of views with Ms. Yingluck. On democracy it was said.
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You sound like you consider Bangkok the center of Thailand.
Anyway, the article mentions 'central region' which is the bit above Bangkok upto about Kamphanphet or so.
BTW ALL budgets seem to have increased over the years, not only the MoD budget. As for details on the MoD budget please search TVF, lots of posters making fun of the planned purchases.
Do an internet search on the words "regions thailand". You'll find that every source puts Bangkok in the central region, and the junta serves Bangkok and its elite.
I'm a country boy, just like I don't see Amsterdam as part of Holland, or London as part of the Home Counties I don't see Bangkok as part of the Central Region. Certainly like in London most people in Bangkok seem to come from elsewhere.
Anyway, the reasoning gKid gave seems valid for the last six years and the main difference is now no flooding, but drought and now no RPPS.
From your prior post:
"Anyway, the article mentions 'central region' which is the bit above Bangkok upto about Kamphanphet or so."
Since everybody but you puts Bangkok in the central region, it is safe to assume the people conducting the poll did so as well.
Bangkok has always received almost all government investment, 90% in 2000, 72% in 2012. Investment outside of Bangkok, where the majority of Thai people live, was increased under Thaksin, which is why he won every election he entered since 2000. That's also why the Bangkok elite couldn't tolerate him, and welcome a military junta that will make Bangkok the center of all power and wealth, at the expense of the rest of the country.
Hence the pol results--the central region, including Bangkok, is happy, the northeast not so much. Not that I put much faith in Thai polls, but this one at least arrived a conclusions that seem credible.
'it is save to assume'?
Well, it's save to assume you came with reasoning to blame the junta again. IMHO.
Interesting is eight pages of foreign opinions based on an article with almost no content.
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With the Central Region the 'rice basket' of Thailand I would assume they may have profited most from the previous government's RPPS which the current government stopped. No data on that though.
BTW I wasn't aware the military was buying land to open a few more bases, existing bases seem to have been where they are for decennia.
Note that as usual the article doesn't give any real information.
Manipulating what I wrote to support your support of military rule renders your statements worthless.
Bangkok is in the central region of Thailand. In fact, it dominates the central region. It is also the wealthiest part of the central region.
I never said that the military was buying land. There is no need as the military controls large tracts of land. As you well know, the military owns some prime commercial real estate in addition to its sprawling redundant military bases. It's not just Bangkok. For example, in the Hua Hin region there are military bases all over the place. The resort and golf course the army operates is one of the nicer facilities. I don't know if using the conscripts to clean up garbage and to do gardening for the business operations is the best use of personnel, but it seems to be effective.
Most of the key procurement warehouses and depots are in the Central region. Nothing wrong with that as it allows an efficient distribution of military assets to quell "concerns" when they arise, and keeps the valuable assets under the control of military units key to the continuing rule. High quality and large stockpiles have not been kept in the North east, or the deep south for many years, for obvious reasons.
The military budget has increased since the military took power. All that is stated is that the budget increased, since the military government will not release further details on purchases. (One of the benefits of a civilian government is that people used to get a general idea of what was purchased.)
You sound like you consider Bangkok the center of Thailand.
Anyway, the article mentions 'central region' which is the bit above Bangkok upto about Kamphanphet or so.
BTW ALL budgets seem to have increased over the years, not only the MoD budget. As for details on the MoD budget please search TVF, lots of posters making fun of the planned purchases.
Do an internet search on the words "regions thailand". You'll find that every source puts Bangkok in the central region, and the junta serves Bangkok and its elite.
I'm a country boy, just like I don't see Amsterdam as part of Holland, or London as part of the Home Counties I don't see Bangkok as part of the Central Region. Certainly like in London most people in Bangkok seem to come from elsewhere.
Anyway, the reasoning gKid gave seems valid for the last six years and the main difference is now no flooding, but drought and now no RPPS.
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Hmm, I did say coupled with the constituency. They grabbed 265 seats out of 500, which is the very definition of a landslide election victory.
Not to mention the fact that this isn't a two or three party democracy, that election was contested amongst 40 parties, and the second party followed at quite a distance.
Part of the distance can be explained with the way seats are allocated. It's not like proportional representation as in the Netherlands. The draft constitution is supposed to offer more 'proportial representation', but without an easily readable translation I cannot really comment on that.
Even the difference in the PL was over 13% quite the distance.
As to the new proposed system, it seems very convoluted, the way I read it is that votes for the non winning candidates are going to be transferred to the PL.
Much easier, and transparant would be to simply have the PL only, just as in the Netherlands.
The Mixed-Member Appointment system proposed in April 2015 is more proportional than what was present in the 2007 constitution. Rejected by Pheu Thai of course as too difficult and robbing voters of a chance to vote for both candidates AND parties. Some here told me even that 'proportional representation' wouldn't work in Thailand.
Now how that part was changed from April 2015 to March 2016 'final' draft charter I don't know as unlike you I didn't read the Thai version. No idea what Ms. Yingluck may have told the commission on Foreign Affairs about this.
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Sorry for this, and I realize it maybe somewhat off topic, but could someone clarify whether the aforementioned 'Amply Rich Investment' shell company is the same 'Ample Rich Investment' shell set up by the runaway ex Pm currently resident in the UAE, or is it a completely different entity?
It would appear to be the same thing. The term "amply rich" has been used repeatedly by one forum member to describe Thaksin and Yingluck Shinawatra. You could ask the forum member about this. Best of luck.
It is the same thing and the name "Amply Rich" I only use in connection with those who used it themselves by choosing said name for their offshore British Virgin Isles based shell company.
I think you'll find that was Ample Rich, not Amply Rich as has been pointed out previously by someone else.
A small point perhaps, but you might as well be right and not wrong eh?
Winnie
By Jove, you're right. I completely overlooked that till now. No excuse there, terribly sorry and all that.
Now that it's pointed out to me I immediately checked the difference. I mean as NNES (i.e. Non-Native English Speaker) I have to be a wee bit careful.
So, checking yahoo which uses Oxford Dictionaries I looked up
ample. enough or more than enough; plentiful:"there is ample time for discussion"amply. enough or more than enough; plentifully:"the persistent reader is amply rewardedThat's indeed a real substantial difference.I wonder how many of the EP commission for Foreign Affairs knew that ?
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The Commission for Foreign Affairs recently had another exchange of views with a politician, the Syrian Opposition Coalition (SOC) leader. It's documented on their website, happened on the 24th. No info though on the talks with Ms. Yingluck earlier.
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/committees/en/afet/home.html
On the 28th this month the EP will open it's doors in Brussels. Maybe one of our members in Europe can hop over and ask the commission for Foreign Affairs what went on in Bangkok?
"Parliament will open its doors to the public on 28.05.16 in Brussels to celebrate Europe Day. The public will have the opportunity to visit Parliament and other major EU institutions by following a circuit of education and entertainment activities. Their role and work will be highlighted by means of exhibitions, conferences, films and debates. Dedicated information material explaining the work of parliamentary committees will be available at the "European Parliament - your legislator" stands."
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Labour Ministry to help out 4,000 employees of BMTA who are to be made redundant
http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/content/164619
Poor people get to work on the bus. Middle class go on the BTS or MRT. One way reform. Help the rich get richer and make the poor people's life more miserable. Bye bye red buses, hello trains. Bangkok city of gold. Or the begging bowl of Thailand for many others. 7 million inhabitants of which 95% are poor. Am I being over negative? Yes, time for my meds. Take your meds people. We're all happy.BMTA plans to cut its staff down by about 4,000 who include 3,000 bus conductors and 1,000 other workers through its voluntary early retirement programme.
Well, the conductors might be re-schooled to be 'security guards', although that's handled by a different company, not by the BMRT. As for the other workers, bus drivers would make interesting BTS train driver I imagine.
As to the logic of the redundancies, I have no data on how many people daily use the BTS/MRT, could be 1,000,000 by now. Unless Bangkok has grown too much that should be noticeble on bus lines. So bus lines need to be reassessed, some moved, some lesser frequency.
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So will the trains now fill the whole station instead of only half of the station?
No they will not.
The stations were designed for two (2) trains with three (3) cars each coupled together.
With four (4) cars you CANNOT couple trains togewther anymore of course in Thailand they can with say the first and last cars being past the platform in which case the pasengers of these two cars will have to struggle through the packed sardines into the next car to be able to get to open doors to the platform. Who says Thais are not smart??? They have an answer for every thing. If you don't think so just ask them. But be careful when asking, if they feel you make them loose face they will pull their covert gun and shoot you, even University professors shoot each other over loose of face.
I vaguely, but only vague remember the platform could take 6-carriage trains.
Of course, with rush hour there's a problem getting people quickly enough out of trains off the platforms v.v. That will not improve with longer trains. Also the ticket machine point is regularly a crowded problem, as well as the 'money change' points and the 'ticket gates'.
Not really much different from other large cities. Pity everyone like (or needs) to travel at around the same time and that is already a period of at least two hours mornings, evenings. Further spreading would help, but with opening hours of offices, shops, schools less feasable.
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Central Thailand has done very well with military rule. The most lucrative bases and purchasing activity is located in the central region.
With the Central Region the 'rice basket' of Thailand I would assume they may have profited most from the previous government's RPPS which the current government stopped. No data on that though.
BTW I wasn't aware the military was buying land to open a few more bases, existing bases seem to have been where they are for decennia.
Note that as usual the article doesn't give any real information.
Manipulating what I wrote to support your support of military rule renders your statements worthless.
Bangkok is in the central region of Thailand. In fact, it dominates the central region. It is also the wealthiest part of the central region.
I never said that the military was buying land. There is no need as the military controls large tracts of land. As you well know, the military owns some prime commercial real estate in addition to its sprawling redundant military bases. It's not just Bangkok. For example, in the Hua Hin region there are military bases all over the place. The resort and golf course the army operates is one of the nicer facilities. I don't know if using the conscripts to clean up garbage and to do gardening for the business operations is the best use of personnel, but it seems to be effective.
Most of the key procurement warehouses and depots are in the Central region. Nothing wrong with that as it allows an efficient distribution of military assets to quell "concerns" when they arise, and keeps the valuable assets under the control of military units key to the continuing rule. High quality and large stockpiles have not been kept in the North east, or the deep south for many years, for obvious reasons.
The military budget has increased since the military took power. All that is stated is that the budget increased, since the military government will not release further details on purchases. (One of the benefits of a civilian government is that people used to get a general idea of what was purchased.)
You sound like you consider Bangkok the center of Thailand.
Anyway, the article mentions 'central region' which is the bit above Bangkok upto about Kamphanphet or so.
BTW ALL budgets seem to have increased over the years, not only the MoD budget. As for details on the MoD budget please search TVF, lots of posters making fun of the planned purchases.
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44% of the vote in 2011 is not bad, but it hardly can be called a landslide victory.
Actually it was over 48% of the Party list. Coupled with great results in the winner takes all constituency indeed meant a landslide victory, no need to try and downplay that victory.
Less than half = landslide, ok.
Hmm, I did say coupled with the constituency. They grabbed 265 seats out of 500, which is the very definition of a landslide election victory.
Not to mention the fact that this isn't a two or three party democracy, that election was contested amongst 40 parties, and the second party followed at quite a distance.
Part of the distance can be explained with the way seats are allocated. It's not like proportional representation as in the Netherlands. The draft constitution is supposed to offer more 'proportial representation', but without an easily readable translation I cannot really comment on that.
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Sorry for this, and I realize it maybe somewhat off topic, but could someone clarify whether the aforementioned 'Amply Rich Investment' shell company is the same 'Ample Rich Investment' shell set up by the runaway ex Pm currently resident in the UAE, or is it a completely different entity?
It would appear to be the same thing. The term "amply rich" has been used repeatedly by one forum member to describe Thaksin and Yingluck Shinawatra. You could ask the forum member about this. Best of luck.
Meanwhile ignore the "amply rich" members of the NCPO and NLA, who other then the Shinawatras never received an actual mandate from the electorate
Come, come, my dear Sjaak. Amply rich is reserved for the Shinawatras with their investment company in the British Virgin Islands.
As for ignoring, weel the topic is PM Prayut hoping Ms. Yingluck gave factual information. Like "no, earlieron my brother decided to skip the Panama construction".
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Sorry for this, and I realize it maybe somewhat off topic, but could someone clarify whether the aforementioned 'Amply Rich Investment' shell company is the same 'Ample Rich Investment' shell set up by the runaway ex Pm currently resident in the UAE, or is it a completely different entity?
It would appear to be the same thing. The term "amply rich" has been used repeatedly by one forum member to describe Thaksin and Yingluck Shinawatra. You could ask the forum member about this. Best of luck.
It is the same thing and the name "Amply Rich" I only use in connection with those who used it themselves by choosing said name for their offshore British Virgin Isles based shell company.
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Would you recommend the Thai people embrace either the UK or US style of "Democracy" instead, as a better alternative?
The one they had before the military stepped in and tore it up was adequate.
It allowed the electorate to select the government they wanted by election in a secret ballot - which is the fundamental of democrac: as opposed to having it decided by a military junta backed by a small and shadowy elite of very wealthy people.
Reasoned from a Western background where people know right and duties. A constitution only functions when people behave.
The idea of "let's have an election" sound good but only when you assume the same status as you encounter in the Western democracies. When a part of the population has no problem with a criminal fugitive running the country that's just as bad as needing a coup to stop him from doing so.
I have rather made it a habit lately not to respond to your posts Rubl, because frankly I've become bored with the way that rather than argue a point which has any merit you change the topic or otherwise dissemble, usually with the result of derailing the thread. I have seen the tactic referred to elsewhere as "crayoning all over the thread". I also have to admit that I find your "faux courtesy" rather patronising. I am however going to break my silence on this one.
Our "western background" - we both come from constitutional monarchies, with well established democratic processes, independent judiciaries and impartial apolitical civil services and government agencies (including the military) obviously differs from the conditions that prevail here. Thailand is a young democracy, which has yet to develop the traditions which sustain our home countries. But the fact remains that it has held successful elections, the results of which have broadly accorded with the electorates wishes. The major agencies of the government, including the military, owe allegiance to an establishment which neither serves the people nor accepts that their wishes, as repeatedly expressed at the polls have any validity. The result - I think it is the case that no elected government apart from Thaksin's first administration has been allowed to run it's full term. That skewing of the process, throttling any chance for it to mature as our own countries have, results in the situation where a "criminal fugitive" is running, or at least heavily influencing the way the country is run. A large part of the population sees nothing wrong with that because the agencies and forces which removed him from office, prosecuted and convicted him, owe their allegiance to an establishment which was for various reasons hostile to him, (Thaksin) and take no account of the wishes of the electorate. One result of that is that a very large number of Thais simply regard his conviction as a political stitch up' so they continue to vote for him and his proxies.
Arguing that Thailand should not have elections until it has developed a western democratic tradition is firstly a classic example of "putting the cart before the horse". Secondly, it is actually very patronising - you are essentially saying that the Thai people are not ready for democracy. Who are you (or the others who repeat this mantra) to judge?
They should have the right to select their own government restored. And they should be allowed to keep it even if it results in a government distasteful to some. Then, and only then can Thai democracy mature.
Well thank you for that, nice you do not appreciate me always trying to turn to the topic. Nice to know that people do not like to hear what they do not want to hear. That's my opinion of course.
BTW you post gives some good info on why we cannot see Thailand as having been a democracy. The Thaksin public relation campaign also seems to have worked when juridical action against Thaksin's criminal behaviour is seen as 'political'. Same with his sister, 'democracy died'. Thailand has the right to get their corrupt government back again. Etc., etc.
Poor Thailand.
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Who has been attacked?
Not you, my dear Baboon. You may have missed jesimps was addressing me.
Some here seem to have the idea that their arguments have more weight when they attach labels like 'fanboys' to their own arguments.
Yes, prejudicial labels can be overused, and often render the argument less credible.
Will you be changing your posting style to lessen your repetitive use of labels?
Which labels do I use? None I think.
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I know that. I also know the same is done in other countries even in the West, the 'monitoring' part that is. Mind you, liking a page deemed ISIS-linked or deemed 'unacceptable' will get you in hot water, in the West.
My dear friend phoenixdoglover just wrote in another topic
"While repressive governments may not "like" it, history is filled with examples of human rights improvements secured through aggressive communication, sanctions, even violent means."
Now such in a facebook page will certainly make some law enforcement agencies pay more attention to you, even when your government is not 'repressive'.
I am dying to hear of just one example where someone has been jailed for liking a facebook post in the West.
Don't even try to suggest that what is happening in Thailand is even remotely comparable to what is happening in truely free and democratic countries.
Load of .
Search some yourself. If I post a link here people will accuse me again of being anti-America. Democratically so of course.
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Reasoned from a Western background where people know right and duties. A constitution only functions when people behave.
The idea of "let's have an election" sound good but only when you assume the same status as you encounter in the Western democracies. When a part of the population has no problem with a criminal fugitive running the country that's just as bad as needing a coup to stop him from doing so.
You seem to think that the situation will improve in Thailand under this junta, right?
Then please answer the following question (I'm not giving up on this):
After 19 coups/coup and attempts where nothing changed except the snouts in the trough (correct me if I'm wrong) what makes you think it will be different this time?
Well thank you very much for asking this again.
In the mean time it would seem that only foreigners 'know' what the article of the topic means. Unhappy as they are.
How about a reply? None of you junta supporters are able to answer that question and it really says it all.
You get annoying with adding this question to about every topic. Before you know it some with set out to destroy Carthage again.
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There was a discussion on Ms. Yingluck being invited for 'talks' in Brussels or Strasbourg at her convenience. And a second letter explaining that Ms. Yingluck's presence was urgently requested since it was important. Nothing more.
So, this visit comes in place of Ms. Yingluck's trip to Europe.
Which the junta, terrified that the EU would hear something other than their lies, forbade.
Winnie
Read again, my dear Winnie. The government didn't forbid a meeting, the government did not give Ms. Yingluck permission to travel as she's expected in court. Surely all those admirers who always wait for her to arrive at court would be mightily disappointed if she didn't show up.
Rubi, Rubi. Have you not learned from serial metaphorical kickings in this and other forums, that you cannot dissemble like this and expect to retain some semblance of credibility. Are you so much a junta fanboi that you are prepared day after day, to subject yourself to ridicule? Or is it that you genuinely don't know you are being ridiculed?
The junta never forbade Yingluck from meeting the European Parliament at their invitation. They only prevented her from travelling to do so.
Dear God, If someone else said that, you'd laugh in derision. At least I hope you would because only a complete dolt would think it a reasonable statement to make.
Winnie
Well, the commission did come here and was allowed an 'exchange of views' with Ms. Yingluck on their own.
And no I do not laugh in derision, I leave that to those who have a need for such to bolster their own standing.
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There was a discussion on Ms. Yingluck being invited for 'talks' in Brussels or Strasbourg at her convenience. And a second letter explaining that Ms. Yingluck's presence was urgently requested since it was important. Nothing more.
So, this visit comes in place of Ms. Yingluck's trip to Europe.
No it does not.
a little reminder:https://issuu.com/neweuropenewspaper/docs/press_release_invitation_ys
The last sentence of linked letter, specifically talks about the visit we are now discussing.
Reading IS an art some people haven't yet mastered
Ah ja, the press report explaining the "importance of having an exchange of views with Ms. Yingluck at the earliest" and suggesting an 'open debat in European Parliament'. They meant in the building of course, not 'with' EP.
The last sentence also seems to suggest they will come back yet another time as they didn't meet parliament, government representatives, civil society and opposition leaders. Probably lack of time, busy those EP commission members.
Anyway the commission had their 'exchange of views', Ms. Yingluck no longer needs to go to Europe.
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There was a discussion on Ms. Yingluck being invited for 'talks' in Brussels or Strasbourg at her convenience. And a second letter explaining that Ms. Yingluck's presence was urgently requested since it was important. Nothing more.
So, this visit comes in place of Ms. Yingluck's trip to Europe.
Which the junta, terrified that the EU would hear something other than their lies, forbade.
Winnie
Read again, my dear Winnie. The government didn't forbid a meeting, the government did not give Ms. Yingluck permission to travel as she's expected in court. Surely all those admirers who always wait for her to arrive at court would be mightily disappointed if she didn't show up.
Between the subpoena and the prosecutors putting together the charge and the appointment of judges; plenty of time and really no legal reasons as to why the junta cannot let her go. But as the junta PM said "she can't even go out to eat a bowl of noodles without his permission", we certainly see the abuse of power.
Ms. Yingluck asked for permission to go to Japan as she had promised to show her son around and when she was there she dropped him with friends and had a nice long chat with her brother.
So, Ms. Yingluck remaining in Thailand and lots of people like that as it gives them a chance to condemn the junta again.
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There was a discussion on Ms. Yingluck being invited for 'talks' in Brussels or Strasbourg at her convenience. And a second letter explaining that Ms. Yingluck's presence was urgently requested since it was important. Nothing more.
So, this visit comes in place of Ms. Yingluck's trip to Europe.
No it does not.
a little reminder:https://issuu.com/neweuropenewspaper/docs/press_release_invitation_ys
The last sentence of linked letter, specifically talks about the visit we are now discussing.
Reading IS an art some people haven't yet mastered
And the same document makes it clear that the junta *did* in fact block YL from attending the requested European meeting, though I'm sure no thanks will accrue for reminding the junta-huggers of that fact.\
Besides, if she were prevented from travelling because of a court hearing, why did the court not issue an order to that effect. YL had guaranteed a return for the court hearing since the meeting in Europe and the date of the court hearing did not conflict.
So any defence of the junta by Rubi or whoever is completely bogus. More ridicule.
Winnie
bogus: "not genuine or true; fake"
Luckily I do not need nor am I defending a junta otherwise I could feel offended by your insult.
Thai govt revenue exceeds targets
in Thailand News
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Absolutely!
"1.247 trillion baht over the past 7 months of fiscal 2016, surpassing its target by 75 billion baht or 6 percent."
Even if we deduct the 48.2 billion Baht from the 4G action, they're still 26.8 billion Baht above target.
BTW on 2016-02-25 we had
"Government revenues for the first four months of 2016 fiscal year starting last October amounted to 742 billion baht, representing 7.9 percent above target or 54.3 billion baht increase"
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/897750-4-month-thai-govt-revenues-exceed-target-by-79/