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Nobel prize awarded for 'groundbreaking findings' that made mRNA vaccines possible ... “Through their fundamental discoveries of the importance of base modifications in mRNA, this year's Nobel laureates critically contributed to this transformative development during one of the biggest health crises of our time,” according to the release. Alongside the other vaccines against SARS-CoV-2, more than 13 billion COVID-19 vaccine doses have been administered around the world, saving the lives of millions and preventing severe disease in many more, as well as allowing society to return to relatively normal conditions, according to the release." https://www.healio.com/news/primary-care/20231002/nobel-prize-awarded-for-groundbreaking-findings-that-made-mrna-vaccines-possible

I've always been a big fan of the Boy Scouts motto -- always be prepared! ????

or psych time for a few years...until he's no longer a juvie.... Even though the mental health system's (I use that term loosely here) prior efforts to cope with this kid obviously failed miserably.

That's kinda what happens when you've had a bogus, fake national government for years of appointed military stooges, and a national police force that's more of a self-enriching business venture than a law enforcement agency.

Was wondering the same thing.... Headline and article content don't seem to match at all.

What the heck is that?

Haven't read anything in any of the news reports on this to suggest that this kid was some kind of publicity/attention seeking type....

This is Thailand. That above just ain't gonna happen here, particularly among any of those with the power/authority to do anything about it.

Wow... nice turn of a phrase..... Never heard that description here before.... ????

And still no answer to the question of -- how does a farang stay long-term in Japan in terms of visa permission without having a work-permit issuing job or marrying a Japanese?\ If I was seriously thinking of trying to move to Japan -- instead of just making up hot air posts on an internet forum -- that would be pretty much the first question I'd be exploring.

Serious charges???? Just what does that really mean for a 14-year-old kid in Thailand? Although the above articles totally fail to address this basic point, I think it's pretty certain that Thai law doesn't allow 14 year olds, even if convicted of murder, to be sentenced to prison. What's the worst that could happen to this (allegedly) murdering kid? One of the above articles mentions he might be sent home to his parents pending trial. Or there's a reference that he might be sent to a psychiatric facility, but for how long??? Until he turns 18 and is no longer subject to juvenile jurisdiction? Odds are, if I was a family member of one of the murdered victims here, I'm likely to come away from the end result of this whole process, whatever it ends up being, feeling an adequate price has not been paid.

I was at Paragon a week or so back. I entered from the main entrance coming in from the BTS Siam station platform. As best as I recall, there was NO monitored security screening or checking of any kind as members of the public streamed thru the doors.

Spike in deaths in Australia from COVID illnesses, not vaccine March 18, 2023, Associated Press "CLAIM: Australia is seeing its sharpest rise in deaths in 80 years because of the coronavirus vaccine. AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. While a recent analysis found that the country saw a higher than expected number of deaths in 2022, it also concluded coronavirus vaccines weren’t the cause. Government officials and experts in Australia concur, saying the rise in deaths is largely the result of COVID-19 infections, not vaccine-related deaths." https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-covid-coronavirus-vaccine-australia-125014733236

And through all the muck.... presidents who advocate injecting disinfectant to treat COVID, anti-vax state medical officials who alter their agency's vaccine reports to tout misinformation, and fringe journal articles that traffic in pseudoscience.... There's been no credible challenge to the multiple studies already posted here from multiple, different credible entities around the world finding that COVID vaccines saved many millions (tens of millions) of lives during the first year or two of the pandemic, and prevented serious COVID illness and hospitalization by millions of more people. COVID vaccines saved 20M lives in 1st year, scientists say (world) https://apnews.com/article/covid-science-health-england-54d29ae3af5c700f15d704c14ee224b5 Two Years of U.S. COVID-19 Vaccines Have Prevented Millions of Hospitalizations and Deaths (U.S.) https://www.commonwealthfund.org/blog/2022/two-years-covid-vaccines-prevented-millions-deaths-hospitalizations Over 1 million lives saved across Europe by COVID-19 vaccines since the end of 2020 (Europe) https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/986127 Follow the facts. Listen to the experts. Seek credibility instead of misinformation.

Everything anyone needs to know about your link are reflected in two key terms in the title -- "potential" and "hypothesis." In short, it's proving nothing. And from an author at an institution that's right at the center of COVID vaccine research (sarcasm alert) -- Autonomous University of Queretaro, Mexico. And published in a dubious "pay for play" journal, Medical Hypotheses, that charges to publish pretty much anything that anyone wants to submit. "Medical Hypotheses is a fringe journal published by Elsevier that’s long been known for publishing pseudoscience, such as antivax and HIV/AIDS denial." https://www.respectfulinsolence.com/2021/04/21/medical-hypotheses-is-back-and-its-pushing-antimask-disinformation/ And the same journal has been the host to blatant misinformation before, including the following: https://retractionwatch.com/2021/04/29/mask-study-was-misleading-and-misquotes-citations-says-elsevier/ https://www.science.org/content/article/new-medical-hypotheses-editor-promises-not-stir-controversy https://www.aidstruth.org/news/2009/elsevier-retracts-duesberg’s-aids-denialist-article/

Concluding excerpt of CDC and FDA's public response to Ladapo, well put: March 10, 2023 "We stand firmly behind the safety and effectiveness of the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines, which are fully supported by the available scientific data. Staying up to date on vaccination is the best way to reduce the risks of death and serious illness or hospitalization from COVID-19. Misleading people by overstating the risks, or emphasizing the risks without acknowledging the overwhelming benefits, unnecessarily causes vaccine hesitation and puts people at risk of death or serious illness that could have been prevented by timely vaccination." https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2023/p0313-letter.html Couldn't have said it better myself!

As for Ladapo, another documented fringe vaccine misinformation peddler: Florida surgeon general altered COVID-19 study findings April 25, 2023 Florida Surgeon General Joseph Ladapo altered important findings in a COVID-19 study with the intent to spread misinformation about vaccine safety. Ladapo personally made changes to a study about COVID-19 vaccines last year that suggested the vaccines had higher health risks for young men than the rest of the medical community established. ... His changes, which were revealed by a public records request by the new outlet, specifically altered the risks of cardiac death to appear more severe than previous versions of the study, Politico reported. https://healthexec.com/topics/clinical/COVID-19/florida-surgeon-general-altered-covid-19-study-findings Report: Florida officials cut key data from vaccine study April 8, 2023 TAMPA, Fla. (AP) — An analysis that was the basis of a highly criticized recommendation from Florida's surgeon general cautioning young men against getting the COVID-19 vaccine omitted information that showed catching the virus could increase the risk of a cardiac-related death much more than getting the mRNA shot, according to drafts of the analysis obtained by the Tampa Bay Times. https://news.yahoo.com/report-florida-officials-cut-key-150016558.html

And then there was more from Trump on harmful COVID misinformation: 23.11.2020 "From March 1 to April 30, 2020, Donald J Trump made 11 tweets about unproven therapies and mentioned these therapies 65 times in White House briefings, especially touting hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine. These tweets had an impression reach of 300% above Donald J Trump’s average. ... The same is true for medications on Amazon, with purchases for medicine substitutes, such as hydroxychloroquine, increasing by 200%." https://www.jmir.org/2020/11/e20044/ Journal of Medical Internet Research Hydroxychloroquine: how an unproven drug became Trump’s coronavirus 'miracle cure' 7 Apr 2020 This weekend, Donald Trump used his daily White House coronavirus briefings to again urge Americans to take hydroxychloroquine, an anti-malaria drug that has not been shown to be safe or effective against Covid-19. “What do you have to lose? Take it,” the president said on Saturday as he boasted that the US had amassed 29m doses of the drug. On Sunday, facing questions from the press about his aggressive promotion of an unproven treatment, he argued against waiting for the completion of clinical trials." https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/06/hydroxychloroquine-trump-coronavirus-drug And what was known at the time: July 1, 2020 Update: A summary of the FDA review of safety issues with the use of hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine to treat hospitalized patients with COVID-19 is now available. This includes reports of serious heart rhythm problems and other safety issues, including blood and lymph system disorders, kidney injuries, and liver problems and failure." https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-and-availability/fda-cautions-against-use-hydroxychloroquine-or-chloroquine-covid-19-outside-hospital-setting-or

Wrong about injecting! In his own words: "And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me." https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/07/13/fact-check-did-trump-tell-people-to-drink-bleach-to-kill-coronavirus/113754708/

There were multiple reasons why normal people came away from Trump's comments that day thinking about bleach... 1. when Trump talks about "disinfectants," the average citizen is probably going to start thinking about bleach, which is the most common consumer disinfectant. and 2. "bleach" was a topic of discussion that day at Trump's briefing just before he veered off into his now infamous "disinfectant" misinformation rant. Specifically: "Trump spoke about the role he thought disinfectants could play in tackling an infection caused by the virus during a now infamous April 23 briefing. But he didn’t say people should drink bleach. His comments came after William Bryan, the undersecretary for science and technology at the Department of Homeland Security, presented a study that found sun exposure and cleaning agents like bleach can kill the virus when it lingers on surfaces. Trump remarked on the effectiveness of those methods and wondered if they could help address infections in the human body." https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/07/13/fact-check-did-trump-tell-people-to-drink-bleach-to-kill-coronavirus/113754708/ Hence "disinfectants" became thought of as "bleach."

Yes, let's talk about public officials spreading harmful COVID misinformation. Some Americans Are Tragically Still Drinking Bleach As A Coronavirus ‘Cure’ Aug 24, 2020 "Despite months of warnings that it’s unsafe, some Americans are still attempting to self-treat for coronavirus by drinking bleach products, prompting Georgia officials to send out a warning that doing so could be fatal. ... Using household disinfectants to treat Covid-19 has become a troubling issue during the coronavirus pandemic, which hasn’t been helped by President Donald Trump suggesting unproven remedies. At an April news conference, Trump wrongly suggested injecting disinfectant as a potential treatment, leading the makers of Lysol to release a statement saying "under no circumstance should our disinfectant products be administered into the human body (through injection, ingestion or any other route).” https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2020/08/24/some-americans-are-tragically-still-drinking-bleach-as-a-coronavirus-cure/

Wanna talk about harmful misinformation.... Nearly 50 people in North Texas drank bleach this month and officials are warning people it won't prevent or cure coronavirus Aug 27, 2020 ... "The Texas Poison Center Network said in a statement that it's seen a 71% uptick in calls involving bleach products, and a 63% uptick in calls involving other household cleaners. Poison control centers, bleach manufacturers, and experts issued warnings earlier this year about the hazards of injecting or ingesting bleach after President Donald Trump speculated at an April press conference about injecting disinfectant to kill the coronavirus. He later said he had been speaking sarcastically." https://www.insider.com/texans-drink-bleach-poison-control-warns-wont-cure-coronavirus-2020-8

Trust the experts, not the internet trolls and anti-vax misinformation peddlers: "COVID-19 vaccination has been shown to reduce the risk of severe COVID-19 disease and may help protect against long COVID for those who get infected. The best protection against COVID-19 and the possibility of serious illness remains staying up to date with vaccinations, including the latest vaccine. Having vaccines approved is not enough — getting vaccinated is necessary for protection. — Carlos del Rio, MD, FIDSA – President, Infectious Diseases Society of America About IDSA The Infectious Diseases Society of America is a community of more than 12,000 physicians, scientists and public health experts who specialize in infectious diseases. https://www.idsociety.org/news--publications-new/articles/2023/idsa-response-to-cdcs-updated-booster-guidance/

Vaccines and other COVID public health measures saved lives... millions... That's the bottom line.

And further on that point regarding harmful misinformation, let's place the blame where the blame is really due: KFF COVID-19 Vaccine Monitor: Media and Misinformation "We find in the latest Vaccine Monitor that belief in pandemic-related misinformation is widespread, with 78% of adults saying they have heard at least one of eight different false statements about COVID-19 and that they believe it to be true or are unsure if it is true or false. ... The share who hold at least four misconceptions is small (between 11-16%) among those who say they trust COVID-19 information from network news, local TV news, CNN, MSNBC, and NPR. This share rises to nearly four in ten among those who trust COVID-19 information from One America News (37%) and Fox News (36%), and to nearly half (46%) among those who trust information from Newsmax. https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/poll-finding/kff-covid-19-vaccine-monitor-media-and-misinformation/