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November 22, 2011

It's all about: "turning a crisis into an opportunity"

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/267159/more-things-for-pm-to-worry-about

Question remains: Will again the Shinawatra clan need to profit from it ?

November 22, 2011

"The latest flood damage would have been one fith of the current level had my project been implemented as planned"

wow and wow again! Wonder how he calculated that and really would love to see his old plan/ideas which were so strange since he was in power

2001 never ever implemented. Only the bad bad "coup" in 2006 prevented him, from implementing it; right!

Wonder since when Thaksin ever thought about any water projects? Can't remember of anything similar ex him!

Any link to any Thaksin water management tries? Or just another blatant lie ex him?

And why is he choosing Korea or China now as a solution and not takes the offered help from the Netherlands

or USA serious? Is it perhaps more easy to make MEGA-PROJECT-commissions more easy with Asian countries?

Also since when is he the water expert? Thought the current gov. was/is setting up a commission for that? And all those Korean or Chinese pumps he promised to buy during these floods? Where are they? And didn't he had already another Chinese solution announced a view weeks before.?Apparently where he knew the exact the price for it? What went wrong in China? Did the commission deal not work, now trying again in Korea?

First royal pardon dished up, then after the righteous Thai folks bashing now change to Plan B, via Chalerm with an "Act of parliament" and now the water god Thaksin soon commanding the new "gov. water commission" how to proceed with the next silly short-minded Thaksin politics and ideas?

November 16, 2011

Mr. Thaksin please....

"Amending laws to enrich himself firstly, then amend laws to pardon himself! ups...."

Let me get this right:

you (Thaksin) firstly amend laws to get riches for your companies (AIS/SHIN etc.), then you don't confess and "deny any wrong-doings", then you "apparently" retire various times from the political scene, then you let your self-declared clone sister run for PM on your behalf, then you lure the country to vote for your sister, by acting as you will come back soon; to take national interest in your own hands, and tell your fans:

We'll all get rich very soon!

... then you basically more or less ignore the whole floods in your own beloved country, but before you plan to return, you ask someone most respected in our country, to give you amnesty or pardon for something you've denied doing in the 1st place by amending again yourself (always via proxies of course) the laws?

And now you can't wait to get your hands on the coming "World Banks Loan, foreign aid money and Budget 2012"?

For any MEGA-Project which will make you and your cronies even more healthy? Why are you always lying to us and telling you are doing things for Thailand?

You think we are so stupid and blind?

OMG/OMB ..Mr. Thaksin! Where are you heading for?

Where will this lead too Dr. Thaksin? More division and street problems/protests in TH perhaps? Is this a good PR for yourself and Thailand?

What are you trying to achieve Mr. Thaksin? Thailand really would be better off without you, believe me/us!

September 23, 2011

Let's try to tackle this claim serious. Anyone knows when the Chao Phraya river tides actually are (low and high)?

...passing by the river date, might post some photos later

September 23, 2011

typical post-active Thai mentality mixed with Thaksin clan mentality / Low IQ tactics. Why not plan for once a bit ahead for next year? Each year the same silly story, with Thai companies already having their donation bags with photo-op and logo on the bag prepared, for the poor float victims photos adds/op outside the flooded city.

Despite living here in the capital, one day I wish Bangkok would be hit so hard, that the snobs and politicians in the city finally wake up and move their asses to get finally a decent water management going for this country.

Think ahead for once and not each time wait until the people are deep sunk in this yearly water mess.

Also the priority of this current gov. seems strange. Meetings in Cambodia to play football and to listen to Thaksin talk, going so speedy for car- (more pollution) and house- buying schemes with sales commission corruption; trying to implement silly populist ideas (to be sure to get voted for next time), instead of really planning for once ahead for the country, which is sinking deeper and deeper into corruption and low-education man-made problems.

July 17, 2008

This is almost as absurd as the announcement of Chalerm seeking the Justice Ministry top post. I'll tell you what; this country's politics are the very best soap-opera on this world's stage. Just too bad that millions have to suffer . . . . . This country isn't ready for democracy, this country needs a benevolent dictator: ME !

Soap Opera...mmmmhhh

Could be, they got it from Thaksin, he was watching with his kids often, and praised the soaps in the press. Guess was his style of edu(social*)-program (*to keep the voters happy and low-IQed)

Thaksin? Soap Opera? Chalerm? Suicide car-bomb against Thaksin? Apparantly bombs against PAD's (once they are opposing for the first time the gov-building just recently? Populist X-mas (running the whole year) - presents (cows, title-deads, 30thb hospital 2 years ago now free rides, water, electrictiy)? Mega-projects also coming in the south?

Get what I mean?

By the way funny no-one noticed in the press (or is not to be noticed as they all saw it?) that both men are wearing equally similar strange grey hair (guess all fake: beard, mustache, thick eyebrowes, grey hair)! Soap opera as it cheapest level, non-existing flags, with logos, music and intro fading after/b4 the movies? Made in Germany? These two Asian don't sound like they would be so greyish, do they?

Produced by Low-IQ politicians and their friends? Just wondering and even more wondering what they are trying to achieve?

Watch the soapers (or what or they?) here:

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2008/07/17...al_30078331.php

Your comments?

Soap or Real (even with masks which would be understandable, if they are trying to play leaders?)

Any bets on Soap?

Didn't we had a similar fake solution for the south recently. I just thought 3 years ago we something similar promised by gov officials (tee-clan). ...mmmhhh soap ...

TIT

July 12, 2008

PPP ready to form new party with Chart Thai, Matchima: Kuthep
The People Power Party is ready to form a new party with the Chart Thai and Matchima Tipataya parties if the three are dissolved, PPP spokesman Kuthep Saikrajang said Saturday.

Kuthep said the three parties do not have to worry about party-dissolution suits against them.

He said MPs of the three parties could stick together and join a new party and retain the political power.

"We need to be united instead of breaking apart because MPs can join a new party if their party is dissolved," Kuthep said.

The Election Commission has decided to ask the Constitution Court to dissolve the Char Thai and Matchima after their executives committed election frauds.

The PPP is expected to meet the same fate after the Supreme Court affirmed the red card against its former deputy leader, Yongyuth Tiyapairat.

The Nation

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Unbelievable, how these boys play with this Thai Democracy, and even more spectacular that we have some TV posters, here who bark against anyone who can't support these mafia-wanna-be-boys. If you can't cheat, we just going to change our party name for the 3rd time. Really makes me upset, these short-minded corrupt Thai politicians!

Especially Banharn, after he had prior election such a big mouth against corruption and Thaksin, and now just silently

supports all what his new boss is saying!

July 11, 2008

he he another nice one by frodo.

thanks for that! Sanuk maag!

July 11, 2008

Disgusting news reporting last evening on Suwarnabhumi TV channel, the news anchor were discussing and both agreed that Jakaprob, Noppadon and Chaya had resigned for medical reasons. Disposable television fools.

seriously?? (mentioning medical reasons!). That's unbelievable typical Thaksin clan!

Suwarnabhum TV channel? You mean PTV? Are they already online (and how to receive?), and trying to distribute their lies?

cheers

NMT

July 10, 2008

I don't see how having a bunch of corrupt, lazy, inept, and selfish appointed officials would differ from the current elected government.

Well why appointed officials should be less corrupt than elected?

Who appoints them, and why the appointing agency is expected to be free of corruption?

I know what PAD hopes and means, but it isn't that easy....

I meant that it won't make a difference.

Anyone in power here will be corrupt and until Thais can get the concept of personal responsibility through their heads, it will remain that way no matter if there is an elected government or an appointed one.

so you are trying to tell us , that people like Khun Abhisit, Korn, Apirak (his deputy), Rosana, Surayud, Surin, Prem, Ong-Art, Leekpai, Kiart, Teera, Sukhumbhand etc, etc. are corrupt?? Sorry I think you are painting an old inaccurate political landscape pic here.

July 10, 2008

What if I describe "new politics" as elections based not only on geographical location but on one's occupation and social group? What's wrong with that?
Look at the various groups demanding the govenment to do this and that - rice growers, garlic growers, bus operators, bus commuters, boat operators, truckers - everyday there's someone new.

Why do they all come to the government house with the problems? Plain answer - they don't have any political representation.

Who would truckers go to? Local MP? They come from all across the country, there isn't a single MP who'd be representing them. Even if they find an MP willing to listen - what can he do? He belongs to a party, he represents the party, not the people.

Look at Banharn, former PM, leader of the second largest coalition party, and he still can't do anything in parlament - he publicly asks for Noppadon's resignation but he couldn't vote against him just a week ago.

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Thailand had dozens if not hundreds of parties for sixty years, and not a single one of them (apart from Democrats) can be truly called a political party with clear ideology. ALL of them ALWAYS abandon whatever ideology they profess for a position in the government. Who do they represent? Their owners, not the people. Who do they work for? Their owners, not the people.

"New politics" can change that completely. I'd say go for it, see if it can be adopted in any way, there's practically nothing left to lose anyway.

Spot on!

I even would say, if we hadn't the PAD in the last 2 years, we wouldn't have seen hardly any positive changes at all (especially the good changes now on-going in the courts).

People's feelings are always represented on the streets. And if you go there and understand that the PAD people are commited to the fight against corruption, you will understand that I guess most Thai people share the same goal. We keep on dreaming (some are acting = PAD and others) for a better Thailand. PAD is doing the right thing, for the current situation. They will prevail and some day most voters will understand, that they have been hijacked since 2001/2 and the only honest good party in Thailand "The Democrats" will finally have a chance to clean up the mess what the others left behind. Go PAD go!

(please any poster coming again with the old song, that all politicians (especially parties) are corrupt, then please list us some negative actions done by "The Democrats", in the last view years - or read other/older threads here on TV. You just have to compile a list of corruptions cases, impeached politicians etc etc. , and you see where the weight balance nearly hits through to the other side of the earth)

July 9, 2008

thanks hammered for your update!

and on we go: "next person" to be axed in the Pro-Thaksin-Group (I think it only can be a matter of weeks if not days, until these cheaters collaps in the goverment)

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http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingne...newsid=30077688

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Chaiya disqualified as minister by Constitution Court

The Constitution Court Wednesday disqualified Public Health Minister Chaiya Sasomsup for failing to declare a part of assets of his wife within the deadline.

The court found that Chaiya had lost his status as a Cabinet for failing to inform the National Counter Corruption Commission that his wife held a share in a private company more than 5 per cent within 30 days after taking office.

The Nation

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wonder who's next? Noppadome to quite over his twist and turns?

July 9, 2008

Thanks John for above, I couldn't find the budget topic (was sure there must be one).

Here we go with the next "coalition member" to jump unwillingly over the boat (assuming) due to corruption:

http://www.bangkokpost.com/breaking_news/b...s.php?id=128789

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Court issues arrest warrant for Vatana

(BangkokPost.com) - The Supreme Court Wednesday issued an arrest warrant for veteran politician Vatana Asavahame for failing to appear at the court to listen to the verdict involving the fraud-ridden Klong Dan wastewater treatment plan.

The court said Mr Vatana's lawyer Paiboon Phonoi told the court that he did not receive any contact from Mr Vatana, who was scheduled to show up at 2pm.

The court postponed the handing down of the verdict to August 18 at 2pm.

In 2002, the Pollution Control Department (PCD) lodged a complaint with the National Counter Corruption Commission (NCCC) accusing Mr Vatana of conspiring with land and pollution control officials to issue fake land deeds for 1,900 rai of land in Samut Prakan's Bang Bo district.

The alleged offence was committed in 1992 and 1993, when Mr Vatana was deputy interior minister. The land was sold to the PCD, the project developer, at an allegedly inflated price. The NCCC's investigation panel forwarded the cases to the Office of the Attorney-General, which prosecuted the case in the Supreme Court's Criminal Division for Holders of Political Positions.

If convicted Mr Vatana, who is now chief advisory chairman of the Puea Pandin party, will face one to 10 years in jail and/or a 2,000-25,000 baht fine.

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What estonishes me is the THB 2'000 compared to the 10years!

But anyhow great they are following up on case since 1992/93...

I hope they will clean up this year, and give a clear warning for the next government!

(sunrise07 & co. you will get your sunset in thailand soon, and understand which party/group of people are 95% the bigger wrongdoers. Especially one with a very bigmouth wanna be role model)

July 9, 2008

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/thaksin-c...5282835522.html

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Thaksin and wife face 13 years in jail

July 9, 2008

BANGKOK: Nearly two years after he was deposed by a military coup, the former Thai prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra went on trial yesterday on corruption charges. When royalist generals toppled his government in September 2006, they accused Thaksin of widespread corruption, but the case before the Supreme Court is less sweeping.

Thaksin is accused of using his political influence to help his wife, Pojaman, buy prime Bangkok real estate from the central bank at one-third of its estimated value. If convicted, each faces 13 years in prison, with no avenue of appeal.

"We are confident that our evidence will be enough to prove in the court that Thaksin and his wife are not guilty," their lawyer, Anek Khamchum, said.

Thaksin and Pojaman did not attend the hearing, but two other former premiers, Chuan Leekpai and Banharn Silpa-Archa, testified.

The case centres on whether Thaksin as prime minister had direct control over the central bank's Financial Institutions Development Fund, which sold the land to Pojaman. Mr Banharn, now a key coalition partner in the present pro-Thaksin government, said the prime minster had little influence over the agency, while Mr Chuan, of the rival Democrat Party, said Thaksin could influence the agency by pressuring the Finance Ministry.

The trial is expected to last two months. The courts will also tackle a series of other cases against Thaksin's wife and several of his loyalists.

The legal drama unfolds amid protests echoing the instability in the run-up to the coup.

Thaksin's handpicked successor, Samak Sundaravej, led his supporters to victory in elections held in December, ending more than a year of military rule. But five months into his Government, the Prime Minister faces protests led by the same royalist activists who targeted Thaksin before the putsch.

Agence France-Presse

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July 9, 2008

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/new-blow-in-thaksins-bid-to-recover-his-frozen-assets-862823.html

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New blow in Thaksin's bid to recover his frozen assets

By Ian Herbert - Wednesday, 9 July 2008

His aspirations for Manchester City are as grandiose as ever but Thaksin Shinawatra's hopes of getting his hands on £800m of frozen assets in Thailand were dealt a significant blow yesterday when, just as the former Prime Minister went on trial on fraud charges in Bangkok, a leading member of the party loyal to him was found guilty of electoral fraud.

Thaksin's trial could result in him and his wife, Pojaman, being jailed for up to 13 years. The build-up has been less than encouraging. Three of his lawyers were jailed last month over claims that they tried to bribe the judge by handing him cash in a cake box.

But the opening of the case, which the Thaksins were not in court to hear, was overshadowed by the decision of the Supreme Court that former House Speaker Yongyuth Tiyapairat, of the People Power Party (PPP) loyal to Thaksin, was guilty of vote-buying in the northern province of Chiang Rai before last December's election. The PPP's success in that ballot saw a number of military and legal personnel who had supported the coup which removed Thaksin sidelined. Thaksin then returned from exile – bringing City players Kaspar Schmeichel and Kelvin Etuhu with him on his private jet – to win back his money and face charges. City have made no secret of the importance of him securing the assets.

Yesterday's ruling places more pressure on the PPP-led six-party governing coalition currently facing street protests over accusations that it is too close to Thaksin and it may persuade the country's Election Commission that the entire PPP should be disbanded and new elections held. That would appear to leave Thaksin's struggle for his cash as far away from resolution as ever.

The Supreme Court ruled that Yongyuth – a former adviser to Thaksin – should be banned from politics for five years. The legal process that leads to party dissolution can take months so it will be another anxious wait for Thaksin.

Meanwhile, the ex-PM's own future liberty is by no means guaranteed as the two-month trial begins which will examine whether the telecoms tycoon illegally arranged for his wife to buy a prime chunk of Bangkok land for just one third of its value. The corruption case is one of many being brought against Thaksin and his allies, and it threatens to bog down a new Government – led by Thaksin loyalists – already facing mass protests in the streets.

Thaksin's lawyer Anek Khamchum voiced confidence that the evidence would be "enough to prove in the court that Thaksin and his wife are not guilty". Thaksin and his wife insist that the charges against them are politically motivated. But the courts have already been unexpectedly resilient in bringing the case. The government has tried to weaken it by arguing that the military-backed bodies which investigated Thaksin had no legitimacy. The courts have ignored that, and have even intervened to reverse other government decisions. Some observers in Thailand perceive this as a judicial revolution – in which the courts are quietly being asked by the traditional elite to act as checks on the power of elected governments.

The court heard yesterday that the 772m baht (£11.6m) Pojaman Thaksin paid the Financial Institutions Development Fund for 5.5 hectares of prime land in central Bangkok represented only a third of the land's true market value. Banharn Silapa-archa, a political ally of Thaksin, told the court the former Prime Minister could have had little influence on the process of buying land. But Chuan Leekpai of the opposition Democrat party said Thaksin had been able to exert influence.

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July 9, 2008

The outcome of this was fairly obvious considering the evidence against the defendent including video evidence. Still it is good to see justice done especially when against a very very powerful figure.

I just read on post or nation site that he plans to go lecture at some University during his 5 year penalty.

What can he lecture young Thai minds about I wonder? Ethics in Politics

Same as Thaksin, he got it from him. If the courts beat you, play smart ass (due to your ex title you've been holding) and keep your limelight in the press/media and try to play teacher/smartass.

Old Thak theory/tactic. A good excuse for talkatives wrongdoers to keep the senseless and lies and blah blah blah's.... going on.

Various banned TRT members did or said the same, of course with no substance, as no university/school in the world would take these kind of people for more than one session

July 9, 2008

Regarding 08/09 budget planing

written by "Democrat's Shadow Finance Minister" Mr. Korn himself:

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A window into where your tax money goes

By Korn Chatikavanij

Published on July 9, 2008

Just over a week ago, Parliament approved the 2009 budget, in principle. This included a deficit of Bt250 billion, or roughly 2.5 per cent of GDP.

That's the largest deficit ever, and it appears that deficits will remain a feature of our national budget for the foreseeable future. How will this affect our people and is this money being used for their best benefit?

After 35 working hours of the Ad Hoc Budget Committee, we have completed the budget request for the Ministry of Finance and moved onto the Ministry of Commerce. That means there are 18 ministries to go, 76 provinces and 59 state enterprises, and over a dozen other agencies. After two and a half months we will have seen and analysed every government department and assessed the capability of every head of department and permanent secretary. I'd like to think that they will derive some benefit from the feedback they receive from politicians, reflecting back the needs of their electorate.

Unfortunately, civil servants will have to bear a lot of 'grandstanding' by politicians in these meetings. There is a tendency for committee members to make speeches as opposed to simple requests for explanations or information. It is like Parliament transported into the committee room, with 63 members each feeling the need to make a speech to every government agency that comes to ask for funds. I think part of the reason is that the meetings are transmitted live into the press-room and sometimes the press is actually listening. Another reason is probably that this is the only way politicians know how to talk.

One is reminded about how eclectic the mix of politicians can be in terms of experience, background and knowledge. One common denominator - true across party lines - is the sensitivity regarding votes 'back home'. It is this combination of the civil service's technocratic approach and politicians' need to constantly be aware of voters' sentiments that makes the democratic system so intriguing. All this is clearly evident in budget sessions.

The Finance Ministry doesn't actually ask for a lot of money - most of the funding allocated to it is to pay off national debt and interest on debt. The ministry's task is to collect money rather than spend it, and indeed the Customs Department actually asked for less money than a year ago, even though it is aiming to collect 15 per cent more tax revenue than last year. The departments that had the toughest time were the Revenue Department, the Office for State Enterprises and the Public Debt Management Office. The Revenue Department had a rough time partly because, well, let's face it, who in the world likes revenue departments? Also, the Revenue Department was the most complicit during the Thaksin regime in allowing tax dodges to occur - and they are still being grilled about it.

The bulk of the government's tax revenue comes from the Revenue Department - in terms of corporate and personal income tax as well as VAT. So when the increased budget is based on the assumption that this department will be able to increase its tax intake, we have to ask how it is that this will be achieved, given that it is aiming for tax receipts to increase by more than twice the rate of GDP growth.

One important observation early in this process is that, in a sense, we attach too much importance to the budget as a tool to drive economic development. In Thailand this is particularly true as our tax base is narrow and the tax collected is only 15 per cent of GDP. Thus, government spending is a relatively small portion of the economy. Last week I mentioned that it is a concern that the 'investment' portion of the budget is in decline - only 22 per cent of total budget against 24 per cent last year- and in baht terms actually less net of inflation but this total is only 16 per cent of total national investments. The main component is private investment - domestic and foreign - as well as state enterprises. So, much more important are government policies that will ensure Thailand remains an attractive place to invest. Having said that, the trend is worrying since the 'expenses' portion of the budget is not only growing but is effectively fixed. This means that without the Bt250 billion deficit, we would only have Bt150 billion available for investments. Just to maintain this level of investment means we will have to live with budget deficits for a long time to come.

What is of more concern is that these 'investments' are not the kind of investments one hopes to see at all. I would define 'good' investments as money spent on improving or increasing productive capability. In short this means the creation of jobs and opportunities and also a financial/social return. So far, all I have seen in the budget are requests for land and additional government buildings as well as the procurement of computers and cars. We are building up assets that neither generate returns nor improve our competitive advantage.

It is also my supposition that there is a lot of wastage in the investments made by the State-Owned Enterprises (SoEs). We raised the point with the State Enterprise Office that the governance issue remains a concern. The recent farce at THAI illustrates a breakdown of good governance in even the leading SoEs. Bear in mind total SoE asset value of Bt6 trillion and one begins to understand the poor returns on assets for the Thai people. Too much cash is being left with the SoEs * and there is a lack of discipline in how they spend. The two state telephone companies are cases in point - and the point was made that investments in additional businesses by these agencies may even be in contravention of the Constitution, forbidding the state from competing with the private sector. It is high time that concession revenues flowed directly into state coffers to help reduce our tax burden and not to fatten the SoEs.

There were questions directed at the Public Debt Office of the Finance Ministry as to when we could look forward to debt clearance. I smiled, knowing full well that the day will never come. Indeed, I was happy to learn that we can build up our national debt to finance the planned Bt1.7 trillion mega-projects over the next five years without even increasing our debt-to-GDP ratio.

The key, as always, is making sure we invest in projects that will most benefit the public and in making sure the people are getting what they pay for. So far, I see too much waste and too much unproductive spending of our tax money.

korn chatikavanij is the shadow finance minister. He can be contacted via e-mail at: [email protected].

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2008/07/09...on_30077648.php

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* And who is sitting there mostly in the top seats?? We know who...

Honest and wise update by Mr. Korn himself

(blue hightlights by NMT)

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to watch Mr. Korn online!

highly recommended for any political observer: Mr. Korn himself in an nearly 1 hour interview with TOC:

Interview Link:

Part 1: http://www.thailandoutlook.tv/toc/ViewVide...?DataID=1008149

Part 2-up: go http://www.thailandoutlook.tv/ (and click on the bottom right of the page)

(thanks TOC)

July 9, 2008