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20 minutes ago, deejai33 said:

I agree with you that we need to know if the locking mechanism on the fuel switches was operational or faulty.

 

Its such an obvious fact that is key to the investigation.  If the locking mechanism was not engaged, then the switches could much more easily flip to down by accidentally knocking an object on them.

 

The accident report refers to an advisory notice about possible deactivation of locking mechanism.  So a very, very obvious question is was the locking mechanism deactivated ?

 

As you say, the investgators have the switches, and photos of them.  So surely they can tell if the locking mechanism is active.  

 

The report could have a simple statement such as 'the locking mechanism was engaged and working'.  

 

The report doesnt have that simple statement.  Why ?  Its such a key fact.

 

 

From the prelim report (page 10).

The thrust lever quadrant sustained significant thermal damage. Both thrust levers were found near the aft (idle) position. However, the EAFR data revealed that the thrust levers remained forward (takeoff thrust) until the impact. Both fuel control switch were found in the “RUN” position. (fig.13) The reverser levers were bent but were in the “stowed” position. The wiring from the TO/GA switches and autothrottle disconnect switches were visible, but heavily damaged.

So regardless of the locking feature, the switches were found set to RUN, despite the crash impact, heat and damage. This implies that they were locked in position.

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

A meeting of two kings. One is real, the other imagined. So sad for British people to host this brute. 

 

Someone asked "Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?" Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England, wrote this magnificent response:

"A few things spring to mind. 

Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem. For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace - all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed. So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.

 

Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing - not once, ever. I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility - for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman. But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is - his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers. And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults - he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness. There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface. Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront. Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.

 

And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist. Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that. He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat. He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege. And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully. 

That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead. 

 

There are unspoken rules to this stuff - the Queensberry rules of basic decency - and he breaks them all. He punches downwards - which a gentleman should, would, could never do - and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless - and he kicks them when they are down. So the fact that a significant minority - perhaps a third - of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think 'Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:* Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.* You don't need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.

 

This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss. After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of bull<deleted>. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum. God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid.

 

in Britain we?

2 hours ago, RayC said:

 

What's your point?

I was just agreeing with you.

Just can't please some folk.

7 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

He's gone for a long holiday.

 

Wait till he learns it's very expensive to put children into school in Thailand. He claims he is going to home school them which is incredibly selfish in my opinion. Schooling is not just about education.

 

Wait till he learns his travel insurance will have to be replaced by health insurance in Thailand after a year out of living in the UK, most travel insurances become invalid.  

 

Wait till he learns rental is not that cheap. 

 

Wait till he navigates the visa process. 

 

Thailand is not as cheap as he thinks it is. 

 

He claims he is going to do social media and generate income. Him and the thousands of others. 

 

The UK Needs new laws in this generation that if you leave the country for a year you are no longer a citiizen. 

 

 

Another idiotic post.

2 hours ago, RayC said:

 

You're right, I wouldn't; who in their right mind would? But then not every immigrant - legal or illegal - is a sex offender.

Oh goody! That's OK then.

3 hours ago, Will B Good said:

Left six UK passports and about 2000 francs (obvs a longtime ago).....in a bag in the middle of a car park in Frejus or St Raphael, Southern France.

 

Didn't realise till the following day. Went to the Hotel de Ville......Belgium couple had handed it in...all intact.

 

 

Drop my wallet with military ID (big no no losing that) and about 1000 euros riding home from the mess in German. Police phoned me the next day all handed in.

 

I phoned the guy who found it and asked for his address......he refused and said he knew what I wanted to do and there was no need.

 

 

Nice story. They were often told but mostly years ago.

5 hours ago, Gandtee said:

My wife and I went to our local bank to renew our bank cards. We paid the renewal fee. Later, my wife received a call from the teller saying she had made a mistake and overcharged us for the transaction. She then asked what account we wanted it credited to. No, she didn't ask for account numbers. If she had I would have been on the alert. But how refreshing that someone admits to making a mistake. I've found that quite rare here. Renewed faith in human nature.

Maybe won the lottery and doubled down on the merit thingy.

Glad you found some honesty anyway.

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

He said Africans is the most diverse population, and as far I know Egyptians lives in Africa, with a mix from neighboring countries. 

 

He didnt mention one word about being black or not. 

 

What you going to say about Americans? They are Europeans with a mix of all continents? But they lives in America. Still Africa have more diversity for now

These days yes, Egyptians lives in Africa. But in ancient days some living there were a mix black people (significantly Nubian) and others from the Near East, the Levant. Through history, Egypt was invaded or conquered by different peoples as the Hyksos, Ku<deleted>es, Assyrians, Persians and later the Romans and Arabs. 

Along with his commentary the were accompanying pictures of black people for all the groups....except for Egypt...where we saw a pyramid.

The less said about the Americans, the better.

2 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

Quite a few of his responses have swerved the issue of the dangers to women and children. Even making light of it. Makes you wonder what sort of a person he is. 

Yup. Can't answer a straight question either. 

1 minute ago, RayC said:

 

When the protests happened nationwide this time last year, they were headline news across the media, including the BBC 6 o'clock and 10 o'clock news bulletins. An isolated local protest in Epping - which is what the OP posted - is just that: a local protest.

The problem that you refer to is the Southport (terror) incident I think.

The protests and aggravated problems nationwide concerning the settlement of immigrants are different. They have not been simultaneous but they are serious enough to warrant national coverage. Families spread throughout the country get this news directly from kin, and they worry about it. It is a national concern now. 

37 minutes ago, DonniePeverley said:

 

 

The UK spends 252 billion on the NHS. If your figure of 4 million a day is even true (which i doubt) then that's about 0.7% of the NHS budget. 

 

Hardly a game changer. Process them quicker, allow them to get some jobs, etc 

 

As i say, it's not going to change your life.

 

The UK is full of waste. They spent 300 million on a pointless fascade for a railway station in Sunderland, which changed nothing. The spending is out of control up and down the country. 

 

 

Notable you did not comment regarding main point that CG1 makes, which is the danger to women and children. The money is an issue but not the main concern, I think.

5 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Probably around £90 billion wasted on HS2 which will shave about 15-20 minutes off a 215kms journey from London to Birmingham and nothing else.

Should have been finished in 2026 but latest estimates are closer to 2037. Absolutely shocking mismanagement and waste from the Tories.  Over 20 years to build it......and for what?  

In the time since it was approved until now China has built upwards of 35,000 kms of high speed rail. And by the time it'll be finished they'll have built maybe 60,000kms.  HS2 will be 215kms. It's a joke. And it costs China on average (including tunnels and viaducts) around £18m per km. But we are spending £90b for 215kms, about £418m per km, or about £4.5 billion per minute saved. How utterly shameful.

Why are the anti immigration people not moaning about that colossal waste of money? Why is it only the money spent on hotels which seems to bother them?

Which one of you is Mini Me?

39 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

I'm sure they are. It's called local news.

And it's happening all over the country, as in nationally.

Just now, DonniePeverley said:

 

 

You got personal experience of something happening to you ?

What do you mean by that??

9 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

That is probably because most of these protests are local and not considered sufficiently newsworthy to be broadcast nationally but you probably know that.

They are definitely newsworthy to the many people living close to these migrant bases.

6 minutes ago, DonniePeverley said:

 

And when you caught them you sent them straight back. Now we have to process them. 

Not so. Same problem, different year.

32 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

His first groups seemed to be all black Africans, from different parts, but he inferred, by visual reference to pyramids, that the Egyptians were the most intelligent, at least at that time. However, the pharaohs are widely believed to have been of various ethnicities and a mix of races, many with Near Eastern and Arabian blood. It looks like the jury is still out on this.  

So glad you both enjoy my work.

2 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

This what happens when you allow a hotel in your town to be used for migrants. This was witheld from most news reports I wonder why?

 

Imported kiddy fiddlers, as if there weren't enough before. Insane.

2 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

 

 

Unfortunately for gammons, media and racists it's become an issue to beat the government with. They have not controlled the narrative on the subject. 

 

He does indeed like he has no clue on how to address this issue. 

 

He hasn't helped matters by coming out with a half baked Enoch Powell speech. Learnt nothing from the Tories. His one solution might have been to embrace immigration and how we are a compassionate nation - and make the argument, that the numbers crossing are very small. 

 

He can also control legal immigration. But this will them harm the economy in the short term. 

 

 

Waffles for breakfast again?

2 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

 

Before Brexit you could return most of these boats back to France. It's only since Brexit that this has become an issue. 

 

Even the conservative MP Chris Philips for immigration said as much. 

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tories-brexit-small-boats-asylum-philp-b2751177.html

 

No. Before Brexit these boats were very few. The migrants used trucks. No customs then. Easy.

2 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

 

 

We cannot leave the ICJ due to the Irish peace process. America, which was heavily involved in that process, would not allow us either. That war was far more destructive than 30,000 migrants coming on a boat - most people don't remember these incidents now, but go study up. 

 

Farage and co know this. They wouldn't leave this agreement either. 

That agreement needs rewriting. The Irish people might like that idea given their own acute immigration woes now,

2 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

 

Stopping 30,000 immigrants risking their lives coming on a boat is not going to improve your life. If it's crap, it will be crap once they've stopped coming. 

 

Governments want you to blame someone else for your problem and not them. Always the same old story, and thick gammons always fall for it. 

 

Why don't you like muslims by the way? Have you bad experiences?

 

I've met plenty of Christian idiots, met hindu idiots, and met muslims idiots. You get idiots everywhere. The vast majority however are just trying to get on with life. Most muslim people i know are walking on egg shells these days - if there is any incident on TV or terror act they wait with fear incase it's one of them, and the ensuing media onslaught, racists turning up. WHen it's often a  white guy they feel relieved (and it becomes a non story). 

 

There are some things we could learn from the way muslims live - namely wife tends to stay at home and raise the children (not advocating this), but it would be a solution to the population issue you keep bringing up, in that western cultures are now having women go out and work. THe population in islamic countries is going through the roof.  Food is amazing. I love Turkish, arab, spicy indian food all over the UK. It's the best things about going there. They also tend to have a very strong family unit, and the community look after one another. We these days western cultures throw our family, parents in the bin as we are so determined to get to some mythic lifestyle. 

 

If you ask me if i want to visit white majority Sunderland where 90% of people are white, or a mixed city like Manchester - i'd go Manchester everytime.

 

There are things we can learn from too. 

 

 

My my, you've met an awful lot of idiots. You must be an expert in idiocy then.

3 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

You wont see this on main british TV.

 

 

GB News is not considered acceptable to them on pedestals.

3 hours ago, RayC said:

 

Complete and utter nonsense 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c87pqnn803yo.amp

Few and far between but might not know that. 

6 hours ago, Hummin said:

 

 

Racism is alive out of many reasons and also valid reasons if youbask me. Common sense to be racists in the term of being sceptical and afraid other people from different cultures. Historically seen proved that. 

 

When it comes to genetics, our dna can make our differences by time just by changing food and daily environment. Look at Hong Kong Chinese, tall as many Dutch people, and I see Bangkok thais growing as well, and also get more light skin color. 

 

And since im not a scientist, I can only rely on science.

 

Africa got the tallest pople, the shortest people, the most intelligent on thos planet because their dna is the most diverse on the planet.

 

 

 

 

His first groups seemed to be all black Africans, from different parts, but he inferred, by visual reference to pyramids, that the Egyptians were the most intelligent, at least at that time. However, the pharaohs are widely believed to have been of various ethnicities and a mix of races, many with Near Eastern and Arabian blood. It looks like the jury is still out on this.