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Have to wonder if she knows that TH RD are not trawling below a certain level, say 400 or 500k? That would allow that choice. But make doubly sure you don't owe any tax in case of spot check. 60k 190k (over 65) 100k (50%of pension) Other allowances 150k Zero tax band Not much meat below 500k if only remitted pensions, of over 65s. Probably not worth looking at less than 800k, for such a grouping, would seem a poor application of resources perhaps?

Would appear that way currently. But Thai Tax residents of 2024 and 2025, will be liable for dividend and capital gains remitted from income and CGains earned in and from either year for 2025, 2026 Q1 filing.... Order No. Por.162/2566, issued on November 20, 2023, ... the new interpretation should not apply to foreign-sourced income earned before January 1, 2024. This means that income derived prior to this date will be subject to the previous rule: it will only be taxed if brought into Thailand within the same tax year it was earned. This order aims to ease the transition for taxpayers planning the remittance of previously earned foreign income.

It was the interpretation of when income became savings that changed, no change to the actual Tax law. Previously you could accumulate your income in one year, and if remitted in the next tax (calendar) year, it was considered as remitting savings, therefore not assessable. Simplicity for me as all remitted value would be savings, when remitted at least 1 year later, (all income taxed at source in the UK already). Now just a paperwork hassle should I become tax, resident in Thailand. So agree it is an old law (.same.as.when I.checked in 2018) but + POR161 amended by POR 162 (savings before 2024). If Thailand goes Global tax that would likely become apprehensivly complex. Not being all there as some.would.say, and still substantially attached.to the.UK.

Thai Revenue memo POR 162 most likely.

Non tax resident so you have till the end of 2025 to sort things out, if not going until 9th July. You could also create some savings account pots (ideally with the interest mandated to a different account). That should not be subject to tax on sending to Thailand in later years, if you keep the paper trail. Trust you are keeping UK accounts open as far as possible. Non-Resident Sterling FCD account could be useful perhaps to SWIFT into. If you think the GBP THB rate may become slightly improved. I've not been to Phetch for about 22 years!

Your savings were not generated (from assessable) whilst Thai Tax resident? Or are from before 1st Jan 2024 (POR 162) Savings are capital only not comingled with interest payment (particularly interest paid whilst Thai Tax resident)? Hypothetically you should not need to file in 2026 Q1 for these savings remitted, but would need to keep the paper trail.

Many public sector pensions allow a nominated partner to recieve a widows pension now. (I think the clause that, if they marry subsequently after getting the survivors pension they loose it, is still there somewhere)) Attempt to put a nomination to the scheme admin, soon as, and pursue the marraige subject separately. The other big chunk of my pension (classed as a company pemsion) has a witnessed copy of the wife's Thai docs in my pension file.

1. Yes transfer at least a credible base amount. I always have some cash in Baht in my pocket.. 2. As long as it remains.remittance based, I think every second.year, or perhaps even every 3rd. ( If it goes global Yes.) 3. Visa, don't know. I find the detail of many Visas is like shifting sands even if the core remains.fairly stable. I'm always in mostly hypothetical mode, e.g. £11700 base amount (all taxed) in UK and 480k THB transferred to Thailand p.a.. £### mobile pocket money. Perhaps only transferred to Thailand when generated as non tax resident in TH. UK tax year 6th April-5th April >183 days at the end of the day. Thailand tax year 1st Jan to 31st Dec >179 Days if no Thai earnings. Base amount continuous. Extra Transfers to Thailand after >183 days in UK idealy, preferably within 6th April to 31st Dec. (Will they ever issue the non-O Multi again, though the evisa is pretty quick) But life not bonded to tax planning!

Yes the OA was what I thought would be an easy multi-entry visa, after June 2019, when the non-O Multi was discontinued, with eVisa system. Then the insurance came along Oct 2019, option gone. The problem with many Thai insurance, policies is you have to be in Thailand for 6 months out of 12. So for a newbie who does not check the health insurance policy, thay may have a policy but no actual cover for.the first 6 months! Sadly it scuppered the O-A usefulness from my point of view.

I'm anticipating having to declare total income Vs total UK tax, for operation of tax credits. If it remains remittance basis, I'm only remitting a component of income, and the exempt element is a relatively low percentage of the total. Still not clear on actual custom and practice of TRD, in respect to tax credits. There was a PDF attached to the initial tax thread, about page 222 maybe, 'the Norwegian Question' answer by TRD. As that person was after certificates from TRD, they declared total income, but only remitted income was taxable. If I remember correctly they had to ensure the tax free personal allowances in each country did not get doubled up. My phone skills can't find the link.

Have the latest bill, just came in the post (UK);- Electric £0.2192 per kwh ~0.43 AUD Standing charge per day £0.6463 per day ~ 1.29 AUD This is on a fixed contract till 2026, belive the kwh rate has gone up approx 10% since. Because my 'centre of vital interest' will likely remain the UK, if TRD move to Global Tax it would be very sour, considering all standing costs in the UK.Then add loss of some income being tax free, £3000 CGT allowance loss. Would make that step over the 179 Day line a much bigger issue, compared to remittance basis.

So Ben Hart is highlighting (video above) apparently the US IRS is pursuing folk that have not filed. In one of his other video, he notes, they likely did not filed since the are under an exempt amount. The IRS are apparently saying they do not gain the exemption unless they had filed So filing was to essentially claim the exemption in many cases..

If I had taken the exempt .gov pension as sequence one, that would be the case 2k tax free and 2k to send to Thailand! But they are all intertwined anyway. ( It's like someone saying they are buying only green zero emmission energy from a.grid that is 60% fossil fuel energized.)

It does make me think back to a conversation with a UK HMRC Technician, back in 2018. She said it would be likely the my exempt .gov pension would have to be declared .. in some places they wanted to show it taxed, and the refund it on the other side of the page as credit / refund of the tax... >It would be great if some transparency would be given on practical RD operation of tax credits. I'm pondering, the exempt would have to feature in the calculation eg. much simplified, roughly... Say £20000 taxable in TH, UK private pensions, already taxed in UK -£1485. £ 2000 UK .gov pension, -£400 tax (just coincidental, sequence of when pension was initiated, not the rate for that pension type) So tax paid £1885/20115so approx £0.0937 for each net £. Only net £s being actual remitted to Thailand. So if THB 500k sent to Thailand, say £12000 x0.0937=£1124 or THB 46850 Tax credit. 2000/22000 9.09% of each is non taxable, THB 450500 taxable, with a Tax credit of THB 42211.85. No forms apparent.to express the tax credit? How will it work! There is no distinct separation at the UK taxed end, for DTA consideration subsequently....< [Not currently tax res]

If you are physically present (for.any second of the day), for no more , cumulatively, than 179 days ( you have also no Thai income), should be fine. The visa duration does not matter, it is physical presence, that matters.

It is possible, that the TEDA amounts do not exist, unless they are recorded and signed via a tax filing, for each respective year....?

Nearly forgot;- HAPPY NEW (Tax) YEAR!

Confusion still prevails, as lack of certainty in respect to TRD's actiial custom and practice, for the tax filing season in the next 3 months. Taxable income from the UK, generated whilst you were tax resident in Thailand, is potentially taxable for the proportion brought into Thailand;- in the same year pre 2023, any time from 2024 onwards ( but with por 162 exemption for pre 2024, remitted later. Any interest, post 2023, from pre 2023 savings, is taxable, for a Thai Tax resident, when it is remitted to Thailand, 2024 on. Very simplified answer, to a very simplified question, and also generalised. ( remembering capital gains are taxed as income in Thailand etc etc) Read the guide....but every thing is a probability, rather than an absolute me thinks. Actual reports soon maybe.

Dad still goes 3 times per year, and will continue.to get e-visa's, I'd rather upload info to the MFA site. Dad's not into paperwork, so trying, hopefully, to avoid him having to drag out paperwork at immigration as much as possible, ( though they could still ask ) I put most things in a display folder.

Originally this page said two entries.per year... https://london.thaiembassy.org/en/page/exemp-visa "Permit of stay, duration, and entries per year will be granted by the Thai immigration checkpoint upon arrival"

I think you may have to phone one of the RMF providers. Depends if your salary can emulate a Thai salary perhaps. e.g. https://www.bangkokbank.com/en/Personal/Save-And-Invest/Mutual-Funds/Retirement-Mutual-Funds/BERMF 'Retirement' close enough to Pension?

Is it not still listed on the eVisa system when logged in?

I had understood that a NT tax code was almost impossible to obtain from the UK tax authority HMRC, in relation to residency in Thailand. It was likely stay to stay that way, as long as Thailand was remittance based tax. Could reclaim using a Thai tax cert against UK tax though. Has UK HMRC issued any updates?

Hopefully in about 7 weeks or so, we'll maybe get some actual reports, from.folk that have done just that...

So from that possibility of linking the long term Visas to tax compliance, does that potentially they are unavailable for folks that do not want to be there enough to become tax resident perhaps. If they move to Global taxation, whilst, whilst being excluded from the likes of even basic access to some basic health cover, it makes it quite disappointing. (Together with many private health insurance not being effective if not there, for 6months out of rolling 12 months, and due to a pre-existing uncertenty they would pay out). I'm not in Thailand currently, if it were not for existing ties to Thailand, the thought of detaching from the UK, and becoming totally committed, generates apprehension rather than the pre-2019 desire.... The administration of the tax procedure is yet to be seen, in its re-interpretation, will they ask for supporting docs that are impracticle to obtain, or make assumptions on possible verification availability. The first quarter of 2025 may shed some light...