WinnieTheKhwai

I'd go for a mixed approach.. don't put all your eggs in one basket.

So include some avocado, other citrus, etc.

Nice location by the way!

Maybe I should comment a little further on my claim that most relationships that started in a bar-type environment are actually working; this is not to say that these relationships are without challenges. These challenges however are pretty much the same ones that you'd get with a low-income non-bar worker, say a waitress, shop attendant, etc.

Since when are death threats or encouragement allowed on this forum?

( If this is a new policy then great! )

If there are three ring roads. Global House is on the second ring. Limited access, big dividing medians, underpasses, high speed

It's the biggest/fastest one yes, but limited access?

Ian

You are still relatively new to Thailand so you can be forgiven for your obvious naivety. You can take the girl out of the bar, but you can never take the bar out of the girl. They will tell you what they think you want to hear but are you serious to believe that a woman who puts a price on the most intimate part of her body will become emotionally involved with a punter.

The problem with that is that so many relationships / marriages of that type are actually working, sometimes VERY long term, raising families and all.

So as much as your statement would seem logical, you can see evidence of the contrary all around you.

That's not to say there isn't a good number of completely mercenary scammers around, who of course get all the attention because it results in such good/horrific stories being ranted about ad vomitum, but you'd be mistaken to think those are even a majority.

The majority is all around you, raising families.

Sorry.

I think the nut-jobs are largely the people posting in this topic, including the original poster.

As it happens we're trying to get some speed bumps installed around the estate, though of course not without the agreement of the home owners in the area no matter if they're Thai or something else.

Fortunately, many of them also have kids who they don't want to get run over when they're playing outside.

You're the nut job, as is your wife if she's speeding where kids are playing. Would you rather she ran over a couple kids?

In an attempt to get back on topic, a reply to the original post:

If I go out at night, my Thai significant other will ask where I am going. Do Thai males gf's and wife's do the same? Do they not answer? Do they lie about where they are going?

Thai men, being by and large in relationships with sometimes very jealous Thai women, are largely in the same boat you are, and most people on this forum are.

My advise would be not to lie. Lying is for losers. You say what the deal is and where you're going. Any more questions really means that the real topic is not you having some beers with friends but an unreasonable jealousy/insecurity problem with your spouse. That needs addressing. Don't get into huge conversations answering every single ridiculous scenario she comes up with.

Personally, I leave it with the explanation that as a foreigner in Thailand, and working 9-5, I sometimes need to get away from it all and have a drink with other male farang friends. That's true, that's acceptable, that's not something she should be denying you. If she does, then that needs addressing.

And in regards to second wives and giks, that would take even more time away from your partner. How do you get away with it so to speak?

The point is not 'getting away with it', the point is that in a healthy relationship both partners are honest, respect each other, and have some tolerance for the hobbies of the other.

if you rephrase and ask whether fidelity and cheating exist in thai society, of course that is not something I can deny

but to talk about fidelity and cheating being part of thai culture is something i have to refute. or that it is something that is accepted, again something I have to disagree with

I can understand your sentiment, but I do believe Thais are more inclined to have adventures on the side than other countries I'm familiar with. Take for example the Philippines or just about any Western country; if you say you're married and have kids then any kind of flirtation ends right then and there. In Thailand however if anything it'll encourage the flirtation if not immediate then in the very short term. I see this time and again. Now, do Thai people ACCEPT that their partner has a fling on the side: no way, by and large, unless it's a severely unequal relationship. But are they more open to having a fling themselves: absolutely, and that goes for both men and women. (No, not all men and women)

Most arent foolish enough to think that there gonna get away with it for long, its dam_n hard work to keep 2 at once bro, be careful what you wish for you may just get it.. If your dead set on having a full time chick on the side you better never let her know where you live, work or hang out normaly, get a second sim card with a seperate phone number, only use cash,

Did anyone read the original post? It's not about having a relationship on the side, the OP has a highly jealous partner who gives him the third degree and waterboarding when he as much as wants to go have a drink with a friend! All the other stuff such as if he actually 'strays' is nice banter but not the issue the original poster raised: How to have some time for male bonding, having drinks and hitting the bars when having a highly jealous and suspicious spouse. I bet that's not a scenario many here are too unfamiliar with??

I went to a lovely gynecologist on the Nimahemin Rd. His clinic is at the end near the Super Highway on the same side as Paparazzi Bar, just past the Tesco. Sorry, don't have his name, but the clinic is pink on the outside and you can see clearly that he's a gyny from what's on the window

He could have made it even clearer by making it pink on the inside.

<getting my coat in a hurry.. >

Its too bad so many men go for the bar girls,and tragedy follows later sometime.I always dated regular 9 to 5 working thai women before marrying a jai dee educated,conservative thai lady. I wanted to avoid the bar scene and focus on the real Thailand.

So did I, minus the 'conservative'. F&*ck conservatism. Did that not to avoid the bar scene, but rather to not mix up my hobby and my family. 'The real Thailand' very much includes everything we're discussing here. As well as a great many other things, obviously.

Note: My previous post was a rant at some of the replies in this topic, not per se to the original poster who voiced a valid concern to him.

My son is 4 years old, and honestly he ignores the attention and I can tell that he finds it anoying. He gets tired of hearing the same questions..

"Do you speak Thai?" etc

I kind of worry about the long term effect that this can have on him.

I ask him, "Do you want to talk to them..."

He just shakes his head "No"

My daughter is sometimes like that, though I recognize it as a slight shyness problem with strangers. Which is good up to a part, but in all honesty to function in a society you need to learn to take things in stride and respond in a sociable manner. If you actively or subconsciously discourage interaction with people who have no other agenda than to have a friendly chat / banter with your kid then that will further fuel his mindset to shut himself out.

Realistically, here we have a society that by and large ADORES half-Western children/people, and still we find a way to turn it into a bad thing. Like I said in the other topic, every situation is different and there is such a thing as inappropriate attention. But by and large, EVERY person / child has things that make him unique in a positive and sometimes in a negative sense. Growing up is the process of learning to deal with those things and use strengths to our advantage and mitigate or eliminate the weaknesses.

Also, a big part of Thai culture is giving compliments, being nice, and praising people also for insignificant things. This is a place where you can tell a (near) total stranger she's beautiful and have it be appreciated! Please don't try to change that.

Summary: Yet another attempt to pick a translation of a Thai word/term and try to find it offensive, triggering a political correctness campaign or further fuel the idea that Thais are racist or slander Thailand otherwise.

Clue: 'Krueng' might as well be translated as 'shared', '50-50', 'in equal parts', or an abbreviation for 'half Thai', but no, we pick 'half person' or even the outrageous 'half-caste' (where does that suddenly come from?!) and then decide we want to be offended. The perennial 'Farang' word discussion is another excellent example.

Jesus F. C.

Sorry but I have very little patience for people wanting to start political correctness campaigns on a language they don't even fully master.

( Note: I'm NOT a person who would say 'well you know where the airport is' at people who voice sometimes very valid criticism of certain things in Thailand; when you have an investment either personal or business in Thailand then you have the right to speak out and address issues.

However if I personally ever reach the stage where I'd want to 'shield and segregate my family' from the culture I chose to live in, then I hope I will have the presence of mind to realize that I'm in the wrong place. )

So they decided to file a stolen property report just before flying home?

Maybe scam some insurance money?

dam_n, my very low regard for Thai cops has just improved ever so slightly.

So you believe the story then.

There are two sides to every story and you just might not have heard the correct one.

Don't jump to conclusions. It could very well be you next

Mental note: With news reports NOT involving dead women we shouldn't jump to conclusions.

I agree with the latter (hard to find buildings that keep cool) but I'm not sure that I buy the line that old Thai houses naturally kept cool. There's loads of them around, you know the typical wooden job on poles. Pretty much the only thing that's changed is that the poles are more likely to be concrete these days, but the basic design is the same.

Those houses are hot as F$*ck!

In fact, a concrete & (Q-con) brick house with a modern roof that's well positioned has a much bigger thermal mass and will keep cooler than most old style wooden houses. I know mine does.

Without a doubt though I think it pays off tremendously if you just keep (passive) cooling in mind before starting to build a house. (Or even before selecting/buying the plot to build it on)

Tyways, can I call you next time I want some rain, then you go out and wash your car?

What a difference a day makes.... Wonderful!!

I went to the Oriental yesterday to dodge the heat at their bakery/coffee shop and because my daughter was promised ice cream after a visit to the doctor for vaccination.. There it dawned on me that not only is their mango, raspberry and chocolate ice cream to die for, they MAKE THE CONES themselves on the spot.. Big wafer iron thing, poor in the mixture and then fold it into a cone right in front of you.. That's class. Oh, and very crusty bread. (Many are too crusty actually for the Mrs. and daughter)

What a difference a day makes.

Rain and wind, A STORM, my prayers are answered!! Thank you Buddha!

Do you work freelance? You're more effective than the rain making planes.

Isnt it also correct that the bigger/more fat a person has, the more they will suffer from the heat too? So, if you are a bit on the pom pui side, might be a good idea to drop a few pounds to help you feel more comfortable.

Yes absolutely! I lost some weight and the difference is remarkable.. I used to get sweaty just walking around an airconditioned shopping mall.. Now I'm fine even in 38 degree heat.

Actually I think it may be 50% due to weight loss and 50% due to a change in diet away from empty carbohydrates. Eating mostly vegetables, good oils, meat and/or fish/egg (and very limited fruit) but no rice/bread/potato/pasta/sugar/caffeine/alcohol makes a near immediate improvement as well. (also you drop weight like a grand piano falling out of a skyscraper window doing that, the main problem is dropping weight too fast actually)

Still don't use aircon at night.. last night was reasonably pleasant actually.

Today's high is 39.. In my living room downstairs without aircon it's.... 31. (Keeping the windows closed downstairs) Add the ceiling fan and it's really quite okay. Or I can turn on the aircon on a high setting like 28 to dry the air and bring the temperatures down a tad more. I'm on one of those triangle-cushions / thai mattresses on a cool tile floor and you wouldn't know there's a hot season going on.

Upstairs is another story; there it warms up a lot but I keep the windows open so in the late afternoon / evening the winds should clear out the heat there.

This is basically a Thai strategy: downstairs / under the house during the day, then rely on breezes to cool the upstairs at night.

It's a widely used forum package.. Not much TV can do to reduce it other than a paid option that doesn't show ads.

And in your settings you can reduce the number of posts per page, and you can turn off avatars, and you can block people you don't want to read anyway like sriracha john.

Nah, I like the iPhone. Just having a bit of a rant because it's Friday. (But indeed I'm unlikely to install the The Nation app even if it did offer something that the website doesn't. )

What is it with the iPhone that so many companies with perfectly good websites want to turn their site into an 'app'... I mean, the thing has a web browser that browses to The Nation (and any other site) just fine.

And then Apple is thumping its chest on how many apps there are.. Yeah, like one for every @*$)(#$# web site out there.

Honestly, if you discount all the website-apps and all the silly movement/shake gimmicks then what do you have left.. emmmm Skype, Shazam and a bunch of games, most of which with awkward controls because Apple thought it cute to put just one button on the thing, apparently aiming its products primarily at quadriplegics so they can use it using a straw from their mouths.

Which hotel was it?

Don't write the name but describe it in some way. Or send by PM.

Want to make sure I avoid that place as well.

Central airconditioning = wasting energy.

That's why your country has the carbon footprint it has.

where is the coolest place to be in Thailand right now?

7-Eleven.

Also there's an arctic Vodka bar in Pattaya that they manage to cool down to -18 or something similarly ridiculous..

It's funny, after leaving that one and returning to the typical Pattayan humidity you can actually feel your eyeballs fogging up. It's not very healthy. But then neither is Vodka. Or Pattaya. Ok I'll stop now.