thaibreaker

Lol. It's you who don't know about taxes for lower income in Norway. Get down from your high horse, and read up. Start with the link above. It's never too late to learn something. In fact, a 65.000 baht pension income in Norway, equals to about 235.000 NOK. After all normal deductions everyone get is made, that will equal to zero tax in Norway. Zero. Of course I'm a "member" of Nav. I live in Norway. In Thailand I will have to pay taxes from that, based on the same numbers and deductions. I'm not even 65, and don't get the 190.000 baht deduction. That is, if this change will be forced upon us, which so far it hasn't. That 180/183 issue you are trying to make a number of, seriously.. It was a typo. And you jumped all over it. Don't be that guy, fellow Norwegian.

A better link for you here. Updated, and it shows 0 percent taxes up to 250.000 NOK pension, for 2023. 65.000 baht a month should equal around 235.000 NOK a year. That's my reality, as well as others with similar income, for me by choice (from 62 years old). Thailand can't compete with that. https://www.smartepenger.no/skatt/1905-skatteprosent-pa-pensjonsinntekt

Do that, and your marriage might not be so happily ever after.. Just sayin'.

Thank you for your answer. Of course, I perfectly understand if you are saving money doing so. So that makes a lot of sense. I only pay 1.7 percent tax in Norway on a 65.000 baht pension (by choice I take out a lower percentage of my pension for now), so I will have nothing to gain from it, quite the opposite. But it all shows that for now, this is an optional thing to do, as long as Thailand is not asking or forcing anyone to do it. I guess that might change, we will see. Wish you the best. Cheers.

You are just saying there is no 180 days rule, but in the same sentence confirming it. Seriously? Or was it the 183 (call it a typo) you were thinking about? As explained by the one I asked, you must individually compare what your tax will be in both countries. A tax from my pension, of 65.000 baht, which is very low all considered (the percentage of income is by choice for now, from 62), is in Norway 1.7 percent. That is my reality, you obviously have a different income, and so another reality. I was only comparing to the table shown in this thread, where the same income results in 20 percent tax in Thailand. That's a huge difference for me, and if I have to pay that, I can't afford living in Thailand on 65.000 baht. As said, the people I know don't go through it by choice. Because they have nothing to gain from it. But good for you if your income is a lot higher, but I still don't understand how you only can pay under 10 percent tax, in Thailand. It does not align with the table shown in this thread.

Thanks for telling us your situation. But may I ask, as a Norwegian myself, why do you choose to pay taxes in Thailand, since you already do pay taxes from your pension in Norway? I assume this is something you have chosen to do, and filled out all the needed forms for that purpose. Most retirees I know from Norway do not go through this, because it's so much hassle doing so, with all the paperwork before getting your refund. And then you are in best case status quo, or probably minus, with taxes and all the expenses you have had. Now, I do know the 183 days rule, but as far as I know, Thai authorities never ask for this pension to be taxed by Thailand. And since you pay full tax in Norway, most Norwegians just let this be. For me personally, the taxes are much higher in Thailand than Norwegian government deduct from my pension. So I just wonder. Why go through it. But kudos to you anyway, you are doing the right thing. And the right thing, is what scares a lot of people in this thread, to start paying Thai taxes for pension income, and go through all the hassle for a refund. Norway do have the same tax double agreement as 60 other countries, but with some small differences.

Far, far from it. In my country, the taxes on a 65.000 baht monthly pension, is under 2 %. Yes, you read that correctly. The question I might ask, is if these new rules will make you have to pay the dividend. That would be devastating for most foreigners.

A big change indeed, but if they do, they level with Malaysia's 90 days visa exempt. Many prefer Malaysia just for that. A similar rule in Thailand would boost tourism.

He just demonstrated it for you. When you leave after 3 days or whatever, you'll ask for a reentry permit. It costs 1000 baht. Then your issue is no longer an issue. I totally agree with others, your plan seems silly, most of all because, as Brit Tim explains, some immigration officers won't do what you ask, because they then may seem to "miss" your tourist visa sticker. Listen to both, and be sensible. A reentry permit is easy to get, and cheap. And btw, you are getting solid advice and answers here. Treat them as such.

I think what they meant to write there was "Bullman was" etc. Not "Killer was" etc. If they meant the latter, they surely would have put "The" in front. A mixup of words, me thinks.

I can. If you have a job that requires a lot of travelling, your passport may sometimes be caught up in the process of getting a visa, or such. That means you need a second passport to be available for you in the meantime, in case you haven't got your first one back. This is actually not uncommon where I live. I believe most countries issue a second passport if it's needed for your work.

Hard to disagree with that. You're spot on. Took me some time to pick my wife, but I think the only honest, hard working and humble woman in Thailand landed with me. Well, we all think that, don't we ????

I have another story from when I was caught for overstaying my visa a long time ago, and sent to IDC. On the second day we stood before a judge to pay our fines of 3000 baht, to avoid 60 days real jail time in a Thai prison, instead of being sent back to IDC. To get that money, the immigration officer who escorted us from IDC to the court, escorted us to the nearest ATM to withdraw our funds. Unfortunately my card did not work with this bank. I knew it as soon o saw which bank this ATM represented. I asked the immi officer if there was any way he could take me to another ATM. Not a chance. Then I asked him if he could borrow me the 3000 baht, and I would pay him back 6000 baht on our way back to IDC. He actually trusted me, and I did escape jail that day. On our way back we stopped at another ATM bank, I withdrew what I promised, and paid him back double. Now, that is something I never expected an immi officer would ever do. He could easily have lost his money, if I wasn't keeping my word. He had no guarantees, I could be desperate enough to do anything to stay out of that Thai prison, and screwed him over. I would of course never do that, but he didn't know that.

I know this might be an unpopular question, most seem to welcome legalization of planting and using weed. But how does that make traffic in Thailand safer? After this legalization, I fear the traffic more than ever. Thais high on something in the traffic, should concern everyone. Their use of ice is well known. Doesn't get better with weed in the mix, for sure. Their crazy driving added with weed is a scary combo. Just a question. I don't mind legalization on general basis, but there is a downside, as I see it.