thaibreaker

Being detained at IDC means you are imprisoned there. Here is what will happen (not could happen). He will be fined when he has his case to a judge, at a prison a 30-45 minutes drive away from IDC. Everyone at IDC must through that. The fine is 3-6000 baht. Depends on if you have a valid passport or not. Then, if you pay the fine, you will be driven back to IDC, and imprisoned there, until you can pay for your ticket home. No more fines. If you can't pay the fine, you will serve time at that Thai prison where the judge is, deducted 200 baht a day. When that is served, you will be driven back to IDC, and held there, until your ticket is paid. So he will definitely be fined, where he goes from there, depends on if he is able to pay it. Either way you end up at IDC again.

I told my story many years back. It was a long thread. Got a lot of comments and questions. I wonder if it still might be searchable here? Haven't checked.

21 of them are only a temporary stay, until you are sent to the 22nd, the one and only for long time stayers, IDC in Bangkok. People there have been brought there from all parts of the country. The longest stay when I served time there more than a decade ago, was done by a Korean. He had been there for 14 years. Still had no hope of getting home. Two Chinese men for 8 and 10 years. No one claims them. Or help them home. Or someone might be stuck for political reasons, like these Chinese were.

Several times, flu like symptoms, a fever lasting up to 4-5 days. They most certainly come from these rides. I am never sick otherwise. Only shortly after using those. From vans, buses or even taxis. Now you learnt something today too. Life is good, right?

That's for his fine, and if so he will be held at a different prison, with almost only Thais. But he will still be sent back to IDC after serving that time, and held there until his ticket home is paid.

The last part, that is what the embassy is for. They will assist you in a matter of days, or up to a couple of weeks, to visit you and get you in contact with someone, or even with the immigration's own booker of flights, if you have the funds for that. You'll get that when you are there. Been there, done that, a long time ago Btw, the fine at the IDC court for this guy, will be approximately 6.000 baht, if his passport has expired (3000 if it's not). Plus his ticket back to his home country. The 20k baht fine is waived for all at IDC. I will add that IDC in Bangkok has terrible conditions. You won't believe it until you're there. Should be avoided at all costs.

You have no idea what impact this cold may have on some people. You are absolutely wrong assuming freekishly cold aircon inside vehicles cannot cause sickness. They sure can! Been there many tens of times. You are dead wrong. Learn your lesson.

That is certainly correct. I have gotten sick several times too, only after these freekishly cold aircon rides. No doubt they are the reason. I never use aircon at my home, so I'm not used to it.

Maybe because she had already paid for the fare? Now she must get a new taxi, and pay again. If I had paid up front, I wouldn't go easy either. But realising there was no turning back, or no fix in this situation, yes certainly I would leave quietly.

Your reality. The Scandinavians I know, bring more to Thailand than the average Brit I know, or most others for that's sake. Pensions in for instance Norway, are pretty darn good. You are dreaming.

This is just one of those "why don't you follow the rules, as all of us others have to do" posts. First of all, using agents are completely legal. You'll get a real stamp, from a real immigration officer and office. If anyone has doubts or any reasons not to put 800k in a Thai bank, and wants to pay 20-30k to get it all done, completely hassle free, then why not. It's up to each and one of us which way suits our situation. I doubt those who use agents are spending any less money in Thailand, than these posters, or those with 800k in a Thai bank. I also know people with the required amount in the bank, but still use an agent for the hassle free extensions. To each their own.

All those cheap Scandinavians? What are you on about?

You are aware that pensioners over 65 years of age get a deduction of 190.000 baht? Include that, and your 216 USD a month tax will be considerably less. There are also other deductions, if you have a wife, kids etc. Scandinavian pensioners have been paying these taxes in Thailand for many years already. We really don't see what the fuss is all about.

Non-O visa based on retirement, extended once? He is 63 years old. What is the problem here?

Good for travelers of course, but remember that Thailand has made their stricter rules into a huge business too. Doing what Malaysia or Singapore already do, will make Thailand lose a very lucrative income.

That is obviously not what he meant... Not which country you must be from to get 90 days in Thailand, but which countries YOU get 90 days visa exemption entries at. Malaysia, Japan and Singapore are 3. It's not that hard, is it.

He can indeed apply a second time, in which he will be granted 7 days ( to leave the country). If 7 days is all he needs. Doesn't sound like it though.

Fyi, a 100k baht disability income is quite common in Norway. If this looney has it though, who knows.

You are getting wrong info here. If you do not have the 20.000 baht when you are trying to leave the country, you will be detained, and brought to IDC. There you will appear before a judge after a few days, and get a fine of 3000 baht. You will no longer have to pay the 20k fine. Then you will be further detained until you can pay for a ticket home. When you are able to, you will be brought to Suvarnabhumi, and led to the desk for boarding. No fine to pay there. Been there, done that.

There was a guy on here with 11 years overstay some years ago, just before the severe penalties came into effect. He got his sheet cleaned, and was back the next week. What the record is, Buddha knows. I have no doubt it is more than 2 decades, maybe even 3 or 4, never caught.

Banned for life may not be a problem. He will probably just go back home, get a new passport, and do the same in another Asian country. Malaysia, Indonesia, Vietnam, Philippines, take a pick. Might even be a blessing for him to change ground. The question is how did he slip away from all checkpoints, registrations and hunting all this time. Laying low, hiding in plain sight seems still possible. I doubt he was hiding underground for 8-9 years.

Right. And Immigration also cannot make a requirement to a Thai spouse, she is not asking for or need a visa. In addition to that, many Thai wives are working, and adding to that 40.000 baht requirement for the husband. Many, and maybe most, married couples have then two income sources. I see nothing strange about this at all.

Come on, let him stay! He love Thailand too mutt!

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