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What we really need to move Brexit along smartly is a terrorist attack in central London carried out by Muslim immigrants.

I have a palpable sense of your eagerness for this.

Well, good for you i claudius. I would, personally, find that situation rather claustrophobic. Still, horses for courses. I'm assuming you're not a Troll.

No not a troll, and in life I have been very lucky, also I found that the harder I worked the luckier I was.

From what you tell us, the harder your wife works the luckier you get.

Well I had to work bloody hard to find a wife that was good at business and who had a family that were not poorB)

So long as you keep in mind the game's not over until the whistle is blown you should be fine.

But as the ancient Greeks observed, there is no greater offence to the fates than hubris.

Well, good for you i claudius. I would, personally, find that situation rather claustrophobic. Still, horses for courses. I'm assuming you're not a Troll.

No not a troll, and in life I have been very lucky, also I found that the harder I worked the luckier I was.

From what you tell us, the harder your wife works the luckier you get.

Are these girls or women?

Conversations I've had at the univerdity of Leiden would if moved to a Thai context in a Thai university result in everyone in the discussion being locked up for decades.

That asside: Thailand has better food, but can't come close on beer.

The ordinary people of Britain who came out of their homes in record numbers (70 - 80% in some areas) to vote in the referendum could not care less about the FTSE, world trade or exchange rates because few people on the minimum wage even if they've got a steady job care about finance or can afford a holiday. They've got bigger fish to fry.

It's the effects of immigration that brought them out of their street doors on the 23rd of June. Now they'll expect and demand something done about it or UKIP will be making ground in future elections with or without Farage in the driving seat.

Why do you think the new PM has said she's not going to immediately trigger Article 50, fear of UKIP or does she have something else in mind?

My wife and I went through this process in the Netherlands last year.

I was working and studying in the Netherlands, my wife joined me after I have arrived.

The process was quite simple:

I arrived, registered at work and at my university. Applied for a "Verklaring van Inshrijving Bergegs van de Unuie", this is registered as a sticker in your passport. I also registered at my local town hall (Leiden) as a citizen of the city and received my BSN registration number.

My wife then applied to enter the NL with intent to settle with me, her visa was a Schengen Visa.

On arrival we made an appointment for her to register her residence at the immigration office in Den Haag, three months later she received her formal registration of residence.

Not at all difficult.

Has Brexit Secretary David Davis given any idea how he's going to broker a deal with 27 EU nations, each of whom hold a veto on any deal he tries to get signed?

He is now on his 2nd day in office, I doubt very much that he has decided on his strategy as yet, I will let you know as soon as he telephones.

Well he's doing a lot of talking about what he's going to achieve.

Perhaps he's hoping that sending the advance party of Farage and Johnson in is going to help. The first to insult the people he needs to negotiate a deal with, the second to act like an idiot and convince them the UK is run by buffoons.

If she is travelling with you she will not have a problem.

When was the last time you saw a doctor?

10 years I predicted the imminent fall of the EU because of Romania and Bulgaria and it happened accurately, now the Paris bombing has reconfirmed my prediction, watch out when in 10 years all western nations will be invaded by jihadists keeping opening the borders and voting for idiots like Clinton.

You perhaps need to make another appointment.

It's XE for me because it's easily available.

You want to use something else, up to you. I'm sticking to XE.

When you do a forex transfer, do you get the XE rate or something different?

More to the point, if you tranfer funds from the UK to pay a bill, or demonstrate that you meet the tequirements of an extention to your retirement visa, what does your creditor/immigration officer want to see.

A screenshot from an fx website or Bhat in your hand/account?

Davis' plan for leaving the EU sounds pretty good to me.

It sounds good, but it lacks any strategy to get there.

He has to get the agreement he wants signed off on by every one of the 27 EU members who can veto it.

In the meantime is the GBP still falling against the Baht?

I always look at the £ v $ as no matter what people say the Bhat does seem follows the $ like a shadow, since yesterday the £ has gained a couple of cents against the $. Yesterday on the Krungsri site £ stood at 45.40 today it is 46.23.

Meanwhile in other Brexit news, the Brtexit Secretary, David Davis has said that the article 50should be triggered by January and the UK is ex[ected to be out of the clutches of the EU by the end of 2018.

He also stated that the UK will not allow free movement of EU nationals into the UK, it is getting interesting!!

Donald Tusk is reported in the UK media as wanting to make the exit a painful one to disuade other potential defectors, rather spiteful nwords from one who apparently puts revenge before trade and the bebefit of the EU as a whole. We will see what develops as ever, he really does not seem to grasp that we are the 5th largest economy in the world and to be ignored at the EU's peril.

Has Brexit Secretary David Davis given any idea how he's going to broker a deal with 27 EU nations, each of whom hold a veto on any deal he tries to get signed?

Read his statement. It lays out how he intends dealing with things following the brexit vote.

His statement says what his intention is, it gives no clue as to how he is going to get there.

It's the 'No Clue' bit he needs to get over.

In the meantime is the GBP still falling against the Baht?

I always look at the £ v $ as no matter what people say the Bhat does seem follows the $ like a shadow, since yesterday the £ has gained a couple of cents against the $. Yesterday on the Krungsri site £ stood at 45.40 today it is 46.23.

Meanwhile in other Brexit news, the Brtexit Secretary, David Davis has said that the article 50should be triggered by January and the UK is ex[ected to be out of the clutches of the EU by the end of 2018.

He also stated that the UK will not allow free movement of EU nationals into the UK, it is getting interesting!!

Donald Tusk is reported in the UK media as wanting to make the exit a painful one to disuade other potential defectors, rather spiteful nwords from one who apparently puts revenge before trade and the bebefit of the EU as a whole. We will see what develops as ever, he really does not seem to grasp that we are the 5th largest economy in the world and to be ignored at the EU's peril.

Has Brexit Secretary David Davis given any idea how he's going to broker a deal with 27 EU nations, each of whom hold a veto on any deal he tries to get signed?

More about the Seimens position -- from the telegraph and others ....

Mr Kaeser said the company had been misunderstood in the heat of the Brexit campaign when it was widely seen as a cheer-leader for Remain. Corporate damage-control is underway at the highest level.

“We never said the UK is in bad shape if it leaves the EU: we said the EU would miss a massive opportunity. Without the UK, the EU may never be able to stand up against superpowers like China and the US,” he told the Daily Telegraph and three other UK newspapers.....

not single sourcing information from obscure reports that suit a contrary viewpoint -- as some people do

http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/business/news/14615237.Siemens_WILL_invest_in_UK_despite_Brexit_warnings/

The bournemouth echo??? now who's having a laugh

I'm quoting a single source YOU.

You said "Seimens and other stalwarts of EU business have said they will increase investment in the UK specifically because UK is leaving the EU"

Now prove that is what they said.

long-term and short-term -- explanations not needed for anyone with any experience of graphs

Though an understanding of the impact of exchange rates on foreign currency asset values might help.

The FTSE is now higher than at any time back to about September 2015 --

https://chart.finance.yahoo.com/z?s=%5eFTSE&t=1y&q=&l=&z=l&a=v&p=s〈=en-GB&region=GB

and higher now than at any time 2008 to 2014

http://charts.moneyam.com/Chart.aspx?Provider=EOD&Code=UKX&Size=603&Skin=GreenRed&Type=2&Scale=0&Span=YEAR10&MA=&OVER=&IND=&COMP=&XCycle=&XFormat=&Layout=Default;HisDate&SV=0&LP=0&LVT=0

Its a little more complicated than that, and far too soon to draw any real conclusions:

Over to the rightwing press for a better outline of what to look out for and when it will be available. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/07/05/when-will-we-know-if-the-uk-economy-has-been-hit-by-brexit-and-w/

To be lead by what a journalist thinks and writes is a road to destruction. Since when did any journalist make an accurate predicition? If they did - they'd all be millionaires.

As for the "Its a little more complicated than that...." -- bullshit -- it is what it is and the trend is clear.

Once again, I am pleased to see your unequivocal statements that we can come back to at a later date.

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Siemens and other stalwarts of EU business have said they will increase investments in UK specifically because UK is leaving EU.

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Can you put up a link where Siemens have said they are increasing investment in the UK BECAUSE the UK is leaving the EU.

I've capitalised the 'Because' since I want to make sure you don't miss it in your response. ('Despite of' does not mean 'Because of').

You are quoting reporters words -- not the bosses words....

“The UK matters with or without being a member of the EU. The Brexit vote will not diminish our commitment to your country. Siemens will not leave the next generation behind, ” Kaeser said.

Now I'm quoting your words, your claim that - "Seimens and other stalwarts of EU business have said they will increase investment in the UK specifically because UK is leaving the EU"

With the words you have kindly provided from Kaeser.

Your 'avin' a larf

The FTSE is now higher than at any time back to about September 2015 --

https://chart.finance.yahoo.com/z?s=%5eFTSE&t=1y&q=&l=&z=l&a=v&p=s〈=en-GB&region=GB

and higher now than at any time 2008 to 2014

http://charts.moneyam.com/Chart.aspx?Provider=EOD&Code=UKX&Size=603&Skin=GreenRed&Type=2&Scale=0&Span=YEAR10&MA=&OVER=&IND=&COMP=&XCycle=&XFormat=&Layout=Default;HisDate&SV=0&LP=0&LVT=0

Its a little more complicated than that, and far too soon to draw any real conclusions:

Over to the rightwing press for a better outline of what to look out for and when it will be available. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/07/05/when-will-we-know-if-the-uk-economy-has-been-hit-by-brexit-and-w/

When was this veto last used? Point me to a vote that was overturned by the alleged veto.

All I can find is "Cameron gives up veto" stories.

When the veto was last used, or indeed if it was ever used, is an irrelevance.

EU laws are only passed after a period of consultation between member states in the EU parliament and after ratification by the national parliaments of the individual states - holding veto rights ensures that all parties understand that if a law or regulation does not meet the agreement of the veto holding state, then that state can simply block the law/regulation.

The last time it should have been used, but was not, was on the occasion of the enlargement of the EU to include former Eastern European states - Tony Blair's Nu-Labour government signed to agree the enlargement of Europe without asking for any concessions on behalf of the UK.

Stories regarding Cameron giving up the veto are nonsense - Cameron did not give up the veto. The UK still has its veto, though leaving the EU will end it.

UK will not have a veto, not have any EU laws, not have any quotas imposed on fishing or agriculture by Brussels, not have to bail out Greece or Italy or whoever fails next, not have to abide by any immigration quotas imposed by Brussels... what not to like? Trade will be sorted out as we progress down the exit-lane, and financial markets are already recovering from the drop caused by imbecilic traders who can't see past the profit of ten minutes.....

Siemens and other stalwarts of EU business have said they will increase investments in UK specifically because UK is leaving EU. Remainers really need to show their patriotic characters and get behind the new team at westminster and support the sane and orderly progress to Brexit instead of continuing their claims of doom and gloom and their wanton obstruction of UK's next phase. You might not like it - but that does not give you the right to fabricate nonsense to de-rail it.......

Appart from your retreat to the age old nationalist trope of wrapping yourself in the flag and suggesting that anyone who does not get on side (your side) is not a patriot, I'm rather pleased with the unequivocal statements you've made above (highlighted in red), we can come back to these at a later date.

Can you put up a link where Siemens have said they are increasing investment in the UK BECAUSE the UK is leaving the EU.

I've capitalised the 'Because' since I want to make sure you don't miss it in your response. ('Despite of' does not mean 'Because of').

As for the markets 'over-reacting' there is no indication that they have over-reacted or indeed that the market reaction is anywhere near ended.

The UK has an appallingly low productivity level https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/feb/18/uk-productivity-gap-widens-to-worst-level-since-records-began and is relying heavily upon its financial sector to hold the economy up - Brexiteers had better hope that the negotiations the UK enter into, but for which the UK has no plan, manage to protect the goose that is laying the golden egg.

Because we already know, both Frankfurt and Paris have a beady eye on that bird.

Markets 'over-reacting'.... Not yet I think.

.....It has not been made easier by the Remain groups constantly talking the UK down should there have been an exit, during the campaign, they now who they are and when you look at how your pension has been affected or your funds to support your life here just remeber that they have made your position more difficult than it needed to be and caused the markets to over react.

Ah so its all the fault of the people who voted against Brexit and continue to exercise their democratic rights to protest, lobby or express opinions against a referendum in which their view was narrowly defeated, the leaders of the Brexit campaign have departed, the promises made by the (lately departed leaders) were lies, there was not forward plan and nobody has any idea how or on what basis the UK is going to negotiate any deal with the EU.

Yep classic Brexteering - Blame other people.

When was this veto last used? Point me to a vote that was overturned by the alleged veto.

All I can find is "Cameron gives up veto" stories.

When the veto was last used, or indeed if it was ever used, is an irrelevance.

EU laws are only passed after a period of consultation between member states in the EU parliament and after ratification by the national parliaments of the individual states - holding veto rights ensures that all parties understand that if a law or regulation does not meet the agreement of the veto holding state, then that state can simply block the law/regulation.

The last time it should have been used, but was not, was on the occasion of the enlargement of the EU to include former Eastern European states - Tony Blair's Nu-Labour government signed to agree the enlargement of Europe without asking for any concessions on behalf of the UK.

Stories regarding Cameron giving up the veto are nonsense - Cameron did not give up the veto. The UK still has its veto, though leaving the EU will end it.

Brexit delivers the UK into the hands of an EU over which the UK has no control - Its true, the Brits really do understand irony.

Only if you believe the UK ever had any control.

Cameron would have sold them his mum, if the pigs head was attractive enough.

The UK currently has a veto on all new EU legislation and passed all existing EU legislation through the UK parliament. If you believe Cameron was not acting in the best interests of the UK or that the UK parliament chose not to act in the best interests of the UK with respect to EU legislation, that is another matter - but it is a lie to say that the UK does not have control over accepting EU legislation into UK law.

The UK will of course give up the veto when/if the UK leaves the EU.

Brexit supporters have yet to explain how the UK will avoid EU legislation while maintaining access to EU markets. The EU council has stated that acceptance of EU legislation and regulations is a condition of access to the EU markets - a bit of a problem that.

I almost forgot to ask, what does Brexit actually mean, how will we know when it's started, happened and when it's finished, what are the key milestones or indicators?

The end would be no longer having MEPs in EuroParl, and no longer paying money to support the EU.

The first will happen, the second may never happen.

In short, Brexit will deliver exactly the EU that Brexiteers thought they were voting against:

An EU the UK pays for, that will make laws and regulations that effect the UK and an EU over which the UK has no control.

At least we will have saved on the MEP wages and pensions.

Quite naturally, the UK need not pay for representation in the European Parliament once the UK has no MEPs...

But its an odd thing to give up when we consider that the EU will still pass laws and regulations that the UK will have to accept in exchange for access to the EU markets.

Brexit delivers the UK into the hands of an EU over which the UK has no control - Its true, the Brits really do understand irony.