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Whats the bet the falang wife is the biggest source of expenditure

I think OP needs to understand it wasn't being in Thailand that gave him the great time.

It was being without his wife that was great.

Has the OP said anything that leads you to conclude this or are you just exhibiting your own problems with women?..... again.

Bit touchy about the whole 'why live somewhere you don't like?' issue, some of you.

Surely the litmus test on the matter of "Can't afford to live in Thailand anymore" is that so vey many western expats went home when the economic crisis hit.

So what does this have to do with this thread? I see nothing here relating to the thread. Off a bit are we not?

There's a clue in the first sentence.

First sentence has to do with Thailand I was referring to the thread.

A number of the esponses in this thread refer to cheaper housing in Thailand.

My response, which you object to, points out that housing in the west has provided and does provide the necessary money to live in Thailand for many expats.

While "cheaper" houses in Thailand are, with very few exceptions, not an asset an expat can own, though many pay for houses in other people's names.

And when that goes East we have evidence that houses in Thailand are not as cheap in comparison as they are claimed to be.

If this is a sore point you did not like being reminded og then I apologise.

So what does this have to do with this thread? I see nothing here relating to the thread. Off a bit are we not?

There's a clue in the first sentence.

Never been interested in owning land of any kind, either back home or here. The land was here long before we were born, and will be there long after. Kidding yourself that you own it seems ridiculous.

It's a ridiculous concept that has been the foundation of that other ridiculous conceot for so many, 'wealth' abd the even more ridiculous concept of 'the independance that comes with wealth'.

I love the bit about comparing house prices, Thailand v the west.

I wonder how many expats in Thailand fund or have funded their life in Thailand on the back of proffits they made, or are making on wedtern house ownership?

Compare that with a house in Thailand, which with very few exceptions westerners in Thailand cannot own.

Anything costing Bht3million that you pay for but cannot own is expensive.

A point that is not missed on significant numbers of expats in Thailand who have lost their life savings by buying houses in Thailand that are registered in someone elses name.

A very well observed post.

The avatar we create as our online identity merges with who we are.

Which, if true, opens the possibility of examining posts we read in a different light.

The OP is comparing costs in Thailand to costs in Canada and in doing so including the 'social wage' he receives in Canada.

Many who make such Thailand v original home comparisons fail to include the social wage and yet it is a significant contribution to the real costs of living, especially so for those with school age children.

Another issue many fail to include is 'opportunity costs'. It is not impossible to make a very good living in Thailand, quite a few people do, but by no means all. I think it reasonable to assume that most western expats in Thailand are supporting themselves and perhaps family with income or savings from overseas. Older people with pension or investment income, a few younger people who have made or come into wealth at a young age. But for most of us we need during our 20s to 50s to work, earn, save, invest to build the wealth to support us in old age.

As I say a few expats in Thailand will make enough very good living in Thailand, enough to save for the future. I wonder how many don't, are financially treading water and not building the wealth they need to support them in old age?

Cheap today, but nothing for tomorrow, is not cheap at all.

I don't think so "buddy".

I am always so amazed at internet doctors and psychologists who give out diagnosis to other members by never interacting with them on any level whatsoever.

Since when did anyone need be a psychologist to be able to spot a fruit cake?

And who needs to interact, as I noted earlier, your the language you have chosen to use to describe a woman you don't know tells us nothing at all about her and a great deal about you.

Not envious, but quick to note he also has a "high status".

Sorry, but your blue and silver memberships at airline and hotel chain don't cut it. Talk to me when you are a super privileged member of a hiso like me. Until then get a better car than a Corvette.

You might have your super privileged, diamond, hiso membership, but as your posts in this thread have demonstrated, you are lugging an awful lot of very damaged baggage around with you.

Not to mention, dressed like a hooker.

Would have been nothing but trouble and expense.

Reading your responses in this thread, I think you are telling us a lot more than you think you are.

Whenever I see some gorgeous woman, I console myself with thinking that there is some poor, shmuck of a man that has to put up with her sh1t.

Could be that most are not easy. BUT that one in my life, she was possibly the best looking woman in my life, but same time also a very humble one. Unbelievable, I let her go.

Perhaps just as well, what with that knife she had to hand.

I'm under the assumption that this is somehow all about the OP's experience of watching a misbehaving/bitchy/ spoiled/manipulative woman?

Or - possibly, the push pull syndrome on display.....

Maybe even enabling & unraveling the entire thread?....

I'm under the impression the OP is 'projecting'.

We have no idea at all if what the OP reports is actually what he witnessed but clearly he would have had to follow the couple atound the hotel to have been privy to their continuing conversation.

The only truth we know have is the words the OP chooses to use when discussing the woman in his reported encounter.

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...her Asian with a tattooed right arm (almost looks like a porn star) .... she is just bitching at him non stop. .... while she is sitting away with her bitchy face slurping bubble tea. ....When he finally finds her she says some totally bs crap "there are no seats here, is this, blah, blah, blah". ..... She was just a typical trash and behaving like I never seen a Thai woman behave.....If this was me I would just literally give her a kick in the ass....Get rid of that poison you carry with you....

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Nice thread. Hilton is not the best location for such a story. In any case, why assume that the male is taking care of the woman and not the woman taking care of her toy boy? I am a hansum man. Many people would have to pay for my company. I am still waiting for the offers though.

Anyway, hanging about Sukie isn't a picture of Thailand. It's a tourist zone and the only Thais one comes across are those who work in the zone. Why not take a quick hop up to Roi Et or down to Pattani, or over to Rayong, or many other places and then come back with your impressions.

So all Thai women staying at the Hilton on Sukhumvit are hookers, because it's obvious what you mean with the " Zone"?

Your conclusion only makes sense if the assumption you have made is true that Geriatrickid has said all Thai people who work in the tourist zones are hookers - he did not say that.

The assumption was your latent need to be offended looking for something to be offended over.

The OP is not the only western man who moved to Thailand with a bag of problems with western women.

And as is usual for these guys he believes he managed to leave his problems behind him when he moved to Thailand.

The assumptions he makes, the language he uses all points to the fact that he has not.

A tattoo artist's view.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/28/secret-life-tattooist-art-narcissistic-selfie

It's the inevitable outcome of the government promoting two tier pricing - the government can do it so why not Somchai.

Well after running a buisness in BKK for 8 years , living in Pattaya with my family .owning ,land .car etc etc (via her indoors) i think my tourist visa has run out .

Why does that not surprise me. 8 years in Thailand your 'blowhard' views on Europe and the UK clearly at best second hand.

OOOH !.seems this hypocrite rattled your cage .

You didn't rattle my cage IC.

I've read and agreed with many of your posts over the years, I'll probably read and agree with many more going forward.

But this last offering of yours is an utter disappointment, I thought you where above the 'invading hoards' view of the world. Seems not.

try chiang mai

good balance between malls and walkable nature areas, food is good too

The OP says he needs clean air, no pollution.

Hardly Chiang Mai then.

Chiang Rai. No pollution, and few farangs .

Perhaps all the Farangs are hiding in doors from you 'no problem' air pollution in Chiang Rai

try chiang mai

good balance between malls and walkable nature areas, food is good too

The OP says he needs clean air, no pollution.

Hardly Chiang Mai then.

Chiang Rai. No pollution, and few farangs .

Perhaps all the Farangs are hiding in doors from you 'no plroblem' air pollution in Chiang Rai

http://mobile.dudamobile.com/site/chiangraitimes4?dm_redirected=true#2894

try chiang mai

good balance between malls and walkable nature areas, food is good too

The OP says he needs clean air, no pollution.

Hardly Chiang Mai then.

When i started the topic , i was not knocking smartphones tv or the like ,because i love them , i love the fact that i can phone my daughter free whenever i want or text my son in an instant , i was talking about how "free" we were , the fact we did not have these things did not matter , we did not know we would ever get them , we "wanted" very little ,because there was little to have so it made us more contented.

As for the world ,yes there were terrible wars , but they were before my time ,and to be honest i was not frightened by the fact Russia was the enemy ,we were not confronted with it every 5 minutes .

Now the worry is overpopulation and the lack of water and food and invasion of the west by the have nots , believe me you can hide your head in the sand all you like ,but and its a big but , its coming .

I grew up in the 60s and 70s, there was certainly concern about overpopulation back then. Images of war in Asia were on the nightly news, as were images of famine in Africa.

Poverty had not been extinguished at home either, almost all inner city schools, and a good many rural schools had pupils without warm clothes in the winter, children with holes in their shoes, kids sent to school with no breakfast and going home to meagre meals in the evenings. No there was not the 'over consumption' of later years, but it was certainly not the idyllic period of your memory.

There is a smell that comes with poverty, its a smell I recall from the homes of people I grew up with, no they didn't have I-Phones, they were lucky to have coal for the fire and enough blankets for their beds.

The police didn't give naughty children a clip upside the ear, they beat seven shades out of people, for 'answering back', 'bad attitude', being the wrong colour or for being 'a puff', or simply beat people up because they could.

As for the invasion of the west by the 'have nots', you've forgotten haven't you, by the mid seventies things where getting better, people where becoming more affluent, the question being asked, and asked often enough down the years was 'How are we going to share our wealth with the rest of the world' - It was clear from the start that the west could not continue to amass wealth while the rest of the world floundered, that there would come a breaking point.

Well here it is.

We have the internet, a kid in Pakisatan, Bangladesh, Yemen, Ghana or anywhere, can log on and see were the good life is, look at his own resources and decide how much of the good life he can get for himself. He'll find websites and online guides, online friends to help and advise him.

Just like you did you hypocrite.

It's difficult to understand how the west has managed not to collapse when I think about the high quality individuals who have left the 'nanny state' to enjoy life in Thailand. Every where I go in Thailand I meet these guys, highly educated, highly qualified, high achievers, high contributors; the movers and shakers the west so desperately needs and must be hurting on account of their absence.

Even though not in the west, and perhaps not been in the west for a number of years, they have their finger on the pulse, they understand the problems, they have all the answers - they know precisely who to blame. They are a sad loss to their home countries.

But then they do at least quietly sneak home to 'nanny' when they need her.