GuestHouse

1 hour ago, SgtRock said:

 

Woof Woof

 

Any independent sources to back up your diatribe ?

 

This little gem will go straight over your head.

 

'' As long as you are capable of using a spade, you will always find a job ''

Perhaps we should dismiss all the foreigners working in the UK's NHS (11% of all NHS staff are foreigners, 14% of the professionally qualified clinical staff are foreigners and 26% of NHS doctors are foreigners).

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jan/26/nhs-foreign-nationals-immigration-health-service

And yes I'm all for cutting welfare handouts, but let' start by tackling the big welfare scroungere.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/06/benefits-corporate-welfare-research-public-money-businesses

35 minutes ago, jaidam said:

 Nigel needs a good sprucing up before going in front of the American public. Across the pond they take personal appearances and superficiality more seriously than the message.  Back in Blighty his common sense pay no heed to PC stance won over the Brits and we Brexited accordingly. IMO Farage has the potential to do wonders to Trumps campaign - hopefully getting him back on top.

By Farage's 'common sense' do you mean his bare faced lies or his resort to xenophobia when the polls go against him?

18 hours ago, HerbalEd said:

Just to be clear and accurate. There is no rape charge against Assange in Sweden, or any other place. He's wanted for questioning, but he has been "charged" with nothing.

All the more reson for him to cooperate and clear his name.

Meanwhile the Ecudorian Embassy are, I hope, regarding Assange as a possible risk to their female staff and complying with the duty of care they have to them as employees.

On 23 August 2016 at 7:34 PM, Class C said:

What about the UN panel ruling a few months ago that Mr Assange should be allowed to walk free and be compensated for his "deprivation of liberty" ?

The UN panel you refer to comprised a group of people, non of whom have any training, education or experience in international law. Their findings have not been endorsed by the UN.

They were essentially a knitting circle.

8 hours ago, Khun Han said:

^ Never mind Guesthouse, Germany can hope   .

Getting you back on topic, Brexit delivers to the UK an EU in which Germany can present policiy and laws over which the UK will no longer have a veto.

Precisely the kind of UK relationship to tge EU that Brexit said the UK needs to escape.

3 hours ago, Henryford said:

 

No different to General Elections where the winner often has only 30% of the total votes and sometimes a very small majority but everyone is happy to accept the result. It is only the losing remainers who complain about democracy. 

The referendum is completely different from a general election.

Firstly, and most obviously, it is 'advisory' on paliament, it is not legally bing. General elections are legally binding, they don't advise parliament, they choose who shall represent the citizens of the UK in parliament.

Secondly, the general election is a transfer of sovereignty from the citizens of the UK to parliament, handing power to parliament to pass laws that each and every person under the juridiction of UK law shall be bound by.

Thirdly, an elected MP is bound by the duties of his office to representhis constiuancy. All of his constituancy, not just those who voted for him.

Parliament is the holder of the powers to make laws and sign/break treaties. Not the government, not the ruling party, not the PM - Parliament.

Of the many 'insights' brought out by this referendum are the not too surprising discovery that so many people have no idea how the UK is represented in the EU and the rather shocking revelation that so very many people have next to no idea how the UK democracy functions.

The evidence suggests the number of people who lack these very basic understandings of how their lives are governed is around 17,000,000.

Fromout of which we have an unusually high density here on TVF.

5 hours ago, AlexRich said:

 

 

Do you think Liam fox is the man to get these great trade deals overseas? Most trade is done with neighbours, for the obvious reason that it is easier logistically - we've kind of messed that one up.

 

The only way you will get the feckless off their backsides is by abolishing their benefits ... but there are genuine claimants who do need a safety net, and most people would be happy to pay taxes to support them.

I don't dispute any of that. It's Sgt.Rock's statement that is cod's.

I'm currently in Korea with a Turkish scientist (PhD in chemical engineering) who works for a British company. The technology he has developed and brought with him to the UK is winning business here in Korea for his employers in the UK. 

Sgt.Rock is of course correct, the UK don't need immigrants. Unless of course we want a UK with a growing and developing economy. 

Sgt.Rock's 1.6 million unemployed who he argues are why the UK doesn't need immigrants are not going to fill the skills and knowledge gap, nor go out into the wider world and win business for the UK.

I think theUK Turnip marketting board is their best bet.

Terrible news for Italy and bad news for me.

My wife and I have booked a holiday at Rome and to Umbria starting this weekend.

DennisF,

you've suggested something very unpalatable to a handful of the respondants to your thread - that everything is not rosey in Thailand and that not only could you be happier somewhere else but that you are willing and able to make the move.

Is a suggestion that has really wound a few up.

You are a psychologist, you can work it out.

12 hours ago, SgtRock said:

 

I will reiterate. Whilst there is 1.6+ Million people in the UK who are unemployed, the UK does not need immigrants from anywhere.

Very many of the 1.6 million unemployed are unemployable.

However Brexit's economic plans might have a cure for that.

If Brexit manages to create markets around the world for British turnips, even the most unemployable could be put to work digging for victory.

19 hours ago, Scotwight said:

So stated in terms a normal person can understand...... Nothing specifically wrong - nothing happened to you - you are just whinging.  An example.  A representative of the new government has done something negative and tangible to you. Thinking something intangible is tangible is whinging.  

 

What has the current government done to effect the attitude of Thai people toward you?  Remember something tangible.  Tangible = physical.  Intangible = feelings, abstract.

 

I'm a psychologist too.  Whenever I get depressed I stop reading Thai Visa for a couple of days and I'm fine.  Maybe you should  try it.

It seems you should take your own advice.

33 minutes ago, Deepinthailand said:

Lol a rest day more like a rest week??? Not going to get serious with it twice a week will do me

Never say never.

If you get bitten by the bike bug you'll wind up with bike fever, ogling at bike shops in a way you used to ogle at bus stops and eventually plagued by the fear of the biggest danger any serious cyclist ever faces:

The fear that your wife sells your bike for the price you told her you paid for it.

1 hour ago, Deepinthailand said:

Now I haven't been on a pedal bike since I was 12/3 years old and have been a committed  anti bike man due to the obvious ill manered cycle riders around the world cutting into a gap that's not there and shouting at the car driver as it must be his/her fault. Riding straight through red lights or mounting  the pavement slewing through pedestrians without a care in the world. Not having to pay any road tax or have insurance. But above all the sheer arrogance of the vast majority of cyclists.

But in the intrests of fairness I decided to buy a pedal cycle and see things from the other sides perspective today was my first real test on a very very back road with very little traffic only two motorbikes passed me oh and the old lady in her push bike!! I have to say although I only went a short distance 2 miles out and 2 back with a slight incline out and trying to suck in air through my arse due to inactivity for the past 20 years or so. I really enjoyed it. It will be some time I fear before I brave any busier roads but yes I liked it.

Keep it up, take a rest day between rides and try to build up the distance.

I also think it a good idea not to go out with the wind behind you, riding back home into a headwind is bad enough, doing so having gone too far with an easy wind is worse.

I bought a Brompton, which you'll see from the attached photos, travels with me wherever I go.

The one drawback I see with small wheels is how they gandle rough roads, where larger wheels are an advantage.

3 hours ago, yogi100 said:

 

Sovereignty in the context of the referendum refers to independence and self governance rather than whether or not we have a monarch.

In terms of the referendum, the notion that the UK is not a sovereign nation within the EU, the claim that the UK is not self governed in the EU or that the UK has lost any independence in the EU is hogwash.

No EU laws are passed that are not agreed and voted on by the UK parliament, the UK takes an active part in formulating EU laws, passes all EU laws through a debate in the UK's parliament and has an absolute veto on any EU law being presented at the EU parliament.

44 minutes ago, Khun Han said:

 

sandyf is right. The year I was thinking of was 2010, when Sterling spent most of the year in the mid-to-high-forties (with a lower average than the last twelve months):

 

http://gbp.fx-exchange.com/thb/exchange-rates-history.html

 

I remember changing some notes at a booth one time that year and getting about 43,  but obviously that wasn't the inter-bank rate.

 

But the argument doesn't change: Sterling was doing worse over a sustained period of time then than it is now, and it went up again.

Your argument is not supported by the evidence that you have presented. The link provides graphs with averages over the time scales for each graph (with the exception of the 10 day graphs). There is no sustained period of sustained low exchange rate in the data presented via your link that could be described as even comparable to the current low exchange rate. 

20 minutes ago, i claudius said:

Well if we all demand to be allowed to do as we wish ,then i want to go into immigration wearing my short shorts ,wife beater t shirt with the slogan <deleted>> all immigration officers  and to be allowed to walk down the street naked , well is my right isnt it ? and i hope all the hand wringing left leaning ones on here come to mt defence .

The general rule is, if not specifically banned under the law then it is allowed.

As Sgt.Rock notes, the 'ban' has not been enacted in law.

As for your preferences for how you dress at immigration, on my one an only visit to the Immigration office at Jomtien I noticed signs that suggest the Immigration Officers would be happy if applicants bothered to bathe before showing up for their visa extensions. They might, it seems, forgive your T-shirt what ever is printed on it, so long as you do not stink.

6 hours ago, Opl said:

The main difference I have with you  GuestHouse  is that in fact I'm on the side of my fellow citizens who feel they are french first - and then muslim ( I could say jews, buddhists etc..) - The majority in fact  - and these persons do not want to be considered as muslims (  ( I could say jews, buddhists etc..) only because it's their privacy.

Usually in France you do not directly ask people where they come from. unless you need to.  

I'm pretty sure these persons are considered as french everywhere they go in the world, in their country of origine included. How many times staying abroad for vacations did you try to guess where the tourists came from - non considering their skin - and before you heard them speak? Did you happen to say " they look french .. american.. german etc.. based on the way there dressed and their attitude.. ?  

      

Now it's different when  you choose to demonstrate first what makes you different - and I repeat,  some - a minority- choose this option and make it quite clear.  

 

My English is too much lacking to be as explicite as I would like...  

Sorry for that.

The main difference I have with you is where you see a Muslim women wearing a Burqini on a French beach as a provocation that exists now but did not exist ten years ago. 

I see a Muslim woman wearing a Burqini on a French beach as a woman wanting to join in a very French pastime while observing her own religious and cultural beliefs on the matter of modesty. The only difference over ten years being the invention of the Burqini that enables her to do so. 

I say welcome to the beach, come and enjoy one of the joys of the French summer. 

You say they are not welcome on the beach because 'you perceive' their clothing a provocation. 

I say Muslims joining in and sharing all aspects of society, all public space and all public pastimes is a good thing, you may think differently. 

Or perhaps you've not thought that out. 

2 hours ago, Zendo said:

For GH who ask for it, listen to an intelligent women speaking, if that is what you want,  I think you'll like it :

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFN8ahYN1b0

 

First you tell us Muslim women have been brain washed, can't see what's going on because their trapped and denied a voice. 

Then you give us a link to one who clearly is able to speak for herself.

It seems you lost the thread of your own argument. 

1 hour ago, Opl said:

GuestHouse , I quote this last part of your post " But of course if its a Muslim woman choosing to wear a Burqini then the defenders of the free world feel they must speak on her behalf and defend her from making her own choices about her own life - just like all the rest of us demand to do.  "

I started my point by " to me" and "today in France" - . and I'm not even trying to speak on behalf of a woman wearing a burkini - I'm telling the impression I have as a person.

That's my feeling - someone else will have another one.    

Many persons, men or women, of different ages - muslim or not - from different part of the world - do not like to expose their body - for different reasons - and manage to do so without wearing a Burkini.

In fact "Burkini" was created recently - Something like 10 years ago - by a muslim woman destinated to muslim women living in muslim countries who otherwise would bath fully dressed   as an improvement in terms of confort -  At that time, I thought it was great for them. I said to myself any woman - chinese - japanese etc.. mostly from asian countries -  who does not want to tan could adopt the burkini as bathing suit.

 

Back to France - 10 years ago, you would hardly find someone bathing in burkini. - Now you'll still find very few,  but in today's context everyone will notice them and  if only worn by muslim women , it turns out to be representative of an attitude  because you can not ignore the context.   

Someone in a previous post talked about " low profile" -  I don't see it as a submission  - it is preservation.     

 

The Burqini enables Muslim women to enjoy bathing on a public beach while adhering to beliefs within their faith and culture with respect to modesty. 

There is almost no difference at all between a Burqini and a full body sun suit. The objection being made is because of who wears it and the faith of who wears it. 

The principal rants against the Burqini in this thread come from the same usual suspects who rant about Muslims and Islam in dozens of other threads here on TVF. 

But as you say, the Burqini was invented about ten years ago, hardly surprising then that ten years ago you would hardly find anyone wearing one in France. They become fashionable amongst some of the millions of Muslims living in France and you attribute this to being representative of 'some attitude'. It is you who is claiming the attitude. 

As for the idea of remaining 'low profile' we need once again go back to the rants of the Islamophobes here on TVF. You can't on the one hand complain that Muslims do not mix with wider society (a common enough claim amongst Islamophobes) and then blame them when they do join in with wider society at the beach. 

But you are right, there is an attitude in France at the moment - and it stinks. 

3 minutes ago, Zendo said:

you know what Guest House... well.. you know already.. so go do that ^^ I'll eat couscous with my tunisian friends, his mother Fatima cooks like a queen and even she was born long time ago and will remains muslim until death.. she understood more things than you will in all your life !

 

If you want to have a real conversation with humain being.. you're the welcome.. but please bring your brain too, it's needed for this kind of things !

I'll gladly bring my brain along to join a real conversation with human beings, thank you for welcoming me. 

But please get out of the way and let them speak for themselves.