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1 hour ago, treetops said:

The official site shows over 30 hotels "approved" for state quarantine, including the two you mention with 380 and 362 rooms respectively.  I reckon they mostly have been going elsewhere given the amount that have returned. ????

 

The original reason that the numbers of Thais repatriating was restricted was due to the number of rooms available, Ambassador City Jomtien used to the biggest hotel in Asia with 4,000 rooms.

2 hours ago, kingofthemountain said:

Let me correct you, it's exactly the opposite way

Thai people stay in state own facilities for free

if they have money and if they want pay for it, they can up grade

for a better accomodation in a private quarantine hotel.

The foreigners on the other hand have no choice, they pay for the private hotel.

Repatriating Thais have been mostly going to Ambassador hotel either in Bangkok or Jomtien, depending on their arrival hotel, this is paid for by the State, the option to upgrade has only been available since 1st July and the introduction of the ASQ locations.

34 minutes ago, bristolgeoff said:

My friend is happy he was struck in cnx,now the extension is happening.his plan is another mth then he is ready to leave for home. many  I imagine would be thinking the same.a good result for people who are struck there

Why is your friend stuck? (or for that matter anybody who actually wants to leave for their home country)

There are flights out of the country with seats available daily, anybody who WANTS to get to Europe for example can.

True, there are folks stuck here from more local countries, Vietnam, PI etc. that do have a problem getting home as they must get on a repatriation flight (to their country) and the wait lists are long, anybody from Europe does not have those flight issues.

25 minutes ago, samran said:

Really? Sounds like they haven't got a clue on whether it does or not...

 

https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/09/who-comments-asymptomatic-spread-covid-19/

There is an abundance of contradictory information out there, however, it was found that previous coronaviruses were rarely transmitted to other due to the fact that asymptomatic people are, by the very nature, not showing any symptoms, so not coughing, sneezing etc. etc and have a relatively low viral load.

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The main driver of transmission, based on currently available data, is symptomatic cases. WHO is aware of possible transmission of 2019-nCoV from infected people before they developed symptoms. Detailed exposure histories are being taken to better understand the pre-clinical phase of infection and how transmission may have occurred in these few instances. Asymptomatic infection may be rare, and transmission from an asymptomatic person is very rare with other coronaviruses, as we have seen with Middle East Respiratory Syndrome coronavirus. Thus, transmission from asymptomatic cases is likely not a major driver of transmission. Persons who are symptomatic will spread the virus more readily through coughing and sneezing.

We, as a race, are learning daily from the virus, the figures banded around are that up to 40% of people are asymptomatic.

1 hour ago, Anton9 said:

There will be no infections,the soldier was asymptomatic and the only positive among all the group.

Stop the paranoia.

Exactly, the transmission of coronaviruses by asymptomatic people to others is very rare, this is generally accepted by WHO etc.

10 minutes ago, Wiggy said:

You need to read the post I was replying to. 

I did, which was 

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Now the passengers who flown with the person will catch it too?  

As I've written, the chances of catching the virus once in quarantine are very low, the precautions being taken with the quarantine are, believe it or not, quite strict.

Just now, Wiggy said:

Possibly, but they’re going into quarantine as well, so it’s not a big problem. 

Why would they catch it in quarantine??

1 hour ago, Eibot said:

I have a COR on a non O multiple entry. I'm married though

As @Sherylhas pointed out currently they mean those that have applied for and been granted Permanent Residency on an immigrant quota, the wording / description is poor in the article, seeing as you are married then you can apply to enter Thailand based on being a spouse of a Thai national.

54 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Fact is we have not heard from one person that has done this (eg Australian returning to Thailand) obtaining certificate of entry and the required insurance and the fit to fly and covid medical certificate etc.

Along with details regarding quarantine experience.

The government quarantine provided for Thai nationals is very different from hotels. What has happened in Victoria AU, is a disaster. The hotels that were used to quarantine used  non trained and quickly thrown together security staff. 

Since the fact that the entry for certain categories of Foreigners has only been available since 1st July, then not many will have made the attempt to enter Thailand yet, however, I was replying to a post made by a dual Thai and Aussie citizen, which changes things a lot, as Thailand cannot refuse him entry, yes he would need to get the fit for fly and go to quarantine upon arrival.

Why do you say that the government quarantine for Thais is very different from hotels?

All the ones I know have been quarantined in a hotel, Ambassador in BKK and Jomtien, from what I understand it is perfectly OK, although the room doesn't get cleaned and no laundry service, they do get 3 meals a day, TV, free WiFi and 2 covid tests.

30 minutes ago, mommysboy said:

You mean your friend's wife, right?

24 minutes ago, varun said:

The real question is if the friend should pay the remainder of the debt.

If he doesn't have the cash, he doesn't have the cash.

How is the friend's relationship with the wife?

If it is less than stellar, let the wife deal with the headache - it is in her name, after all.

 

20 hours ago, Keyser Soze666 said:

Asking for myself NOT a friend.

OP made it quite clear he was NOT asking for a friend!

You have 3 viable options open to you.

1. Contact Tisco and explain the situation and ask to renegotiate the loan period, if this helps you by lowering the monthly payment.

2. Try to sell the car privately, be honest with the potential purchasers about the loan status and get the buyer to pay off the outstanding balance directly to Tisco, with any additional funds to you (if there are any!)

3. Default on the loan and let Tisco repossess the car, note if you took this route that Tisco would sell the vehicle for whatever they are owed, they are under no obligation to sell at market value and your wife would now have a major black mark on her credit history, which could bite you both where it hurts later in life.

The blue book will have Tisco as the owner under the finance agreement and your wife named on the next page, this is how the fines etc. get to the driver!

Tisco will likely be open to negotiation rather than the hassle of repossession.

29 minutes ago, Matzzon said:

Nope the real world. I have been owner of a construction company, bar and restaurants and worked as a supermarket department work leader. After that created an environment online that I can live on today. Started with 300 euro and no education for any of mentioned occupations. 

You are the one living in Impossibilia, because you have probably been raised to believe that the only real thing is a good work with steady employment.

Without getting in to a protracted argument, you were born in a country that allows this to happen, along with an element of luck.

I am probably one of the least socialist people on the forum, however, the reality in life is that 90% of people do not get this chance and they must work to provide for their families etc. especially in countries such as Thailand, where the opportunities are fewer.

For example, your construction company, bar and restaurants would have all had people employed on differing levels, you as the employer, had to respect the relevant labour laws and pay the staff the minimum wage, sick pay, holiday entitlement etc. had the government at the time postponed a public holiday, you would have had to respect the new date given.

Without those employees, you would not have been successful, some of them would have enjoyed the work, others hated it, all worked due to the necessity.

As for my own circumstances, I'd say your assumption is about as polar opposite as it gets, however, I do live in the real world where I respect those that clean the toilets just as much as the Managing Director, both play a role, both are necessary.

2 minutes ago, Matzzon said:

BS! Everybody has. You do not need more than about 3000 baht to start a business online. After you made some cash you can start to chose.

Actually everything is built for newbies so you do not need any education either. You can learn as you go.

What you should post is: Not everybody is brave enough to take the plunge out in the unknown.

C'mon .......... what world you do live in, Utopia? 

39 minutes ago, Matzzon said:

Yes, sometimes I work 1 year without any holiday. No, I do not get jaded, because I love my work. Stupid to chose something in life that you don´t like, right.

Not everybody has the fortune to choose their occupation.

26 minutes ago, Matzzon said:

Are you serious? What do you call it? A working day? ????????????

Get a grip. I liked the penguin better. ????????????

No, are you serious?

The Labour Protection Act stipulates the minimum amount of paid leave that an employee is entitled to, what it doesn't stipulate is that the employee is entitled to take that leave freely as and when they choose, some employers may choose the dates for them, other not, look further in to the LPA and each employee is entitled to 13 paid public holidays per year, of which Songkran is a part of, so the employees ARE entitled to the days that were cancelled by the Government, how and when these are returned has been outlined by the government, a lot of the Thais will not be happy with this, as Songkran is a holiday that allows them the time to visit family etc. but it is what it is and it is better than losing the days.

As for the schools etc. it would never be a good time to return these holidays for schools, for those businesses that closed due to the lock down, I would imagine that the individual companies will be allowed flexibility, most hospitality businesses have people working on holidays anyway and compensate in other ways, as do factories etc. etc. 

I do not know of any Thai that had the idea of celebrating Songkran with the normal style of water, that moment has passed.

3 hours ago, KhunBENQ said:

Booze ban on the holiday as such and that's Sun, July 5.

No reason for booze ban on the other days.

The booze ban will be on Saturday 4th and Sunday 5th July, as both are Buddhist days, happens every year in July.

28 minutes ago, JCP108 said:

Right, you can't be stating that there are zero local transmissions for 18 days and that the rate of infections is rising for any group. Those two things don't happen in the same universe.

 

The rate is the same for all groups right now and it's at zero. 

100% agree, the <deleted> that comes out sometimes is scary, one arm says no domestic infections reported for 17 days, another says you must keep bars etc. closed coz they are too dangerous and high risk (against what I've no idea), this arm says the place is full of young asymptomatic people.................

Cake and eat it.........