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4 hours ago, webfact said:Think twice before riding a motorcycle in Thailand - Thai biker in wheelchair warns others
Unfortunately nobody will listen, my youngest son was tragically killed in a motorcycle accident here in early October 2018, he died purely and simply because he wasn't wearing a helmet, this despite me banning him going on the back of his friends and (trying) teaching him thousands of times that a helmet is essential, 16 years old and didn't listen, knew better than the old man etc. he was a victim of his own stupidity, to be fair, we pretty much felt the same at that age.
A bunch of his friends came to the hospital wanting to pay their last respects, most were on motorcycles, I gave them a massive lecture on helmets and this is why you wear one, all to a man agreed and said they would always wear one, two days later on the first day of the temple ceremonies, 90% of them turned up on their motorcycles without helmets................. you really cannot fix stupid.
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So, yesterday it was announced that it was 14 days since the last reported internal case of C-19, another 14 days is required to declare being Covid free, all incoming people are taken to mandatory quarantine for 15 days (yes, 15 as confirmed by a Thai friend of mine who arrived in to Thailand on Sunday 24th May and was released yesterday) all those in quarantine take two Covid tests whilst in quarantine, 1 after 4 days and 1 4 days prior to the end, once released then they have to say where they are going to and be tested further after arriving at their destination (again confirmed by the same friend).
Given the above, then there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to continue with any measures or restrictions post 1st July assuming there are no reported internal cases between now and then.
If there is, then it is no longer Covid related.
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3 hours ago, thenewgoo said:
I wasn't - it was to be in my wife's name (Thai) - only the loan.
Then the loan would have to be in your wife's name, you could only be the guarantor, the land and house would be the collateral for the loan, so the mortgage has to be in the name that is lodged on the land paper.
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13 hours ago, thenewgoo said:
Foreigners can't get a loan for a house in Thailand. Fullstop.
A few sour grapes about the experience admittedly.
Absolutely correct, the law prohibits this, how were you proposing to put the land in to your name as a foreigner?
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3 hours ago, Mulambana said:Most people don't get enjoyment by oogling young girls for future brides in bars. Restaurants are operating normally. There is no issue with that. Malls are open. All shops are open. Yes, bride finding venues are closed but I don't care.
Obviously sarcasm is totally lost on you............... however, where did I post that people wanted to ogle young girls looking for their future bride in a bar?
Restaurants are opening normally............really are you sure, perhaps you see dividers between people, some places families having to sit on separate table, not being able to enjoy a wine with your meal whilst having to check in and out with an app as normal?? I certainly do not, going for a meal should be a pleasant experience.
People, myself included go to a bar for relaxation and verbal interaction, I see nothing wrong with that, there are a lot of bars that cater for this, it may come as a shock, but they are not all bride finding venues, they do provide gainful employment for many, not just in the bars themselves, alcohol wholesalers, breweries, manufacturers of bottles, cans, cardboard boxes, the list is long, not to mention the loss of duties for the government.
All work and no play is not good for anybody, I initially understood and supported some of the restrictions, now that Thailand appears to be about as free from Covid as can be reasonably expected, it is time to open up again.
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4 hours ago, webfact said:Thailand has had 13 days without any Covid-19 case and can consider itself safe if the trend continues for another 14 days, Dr Panprapa Yongtrakul, deputy spokeswoman of the government’s Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration, said on Sunday (June 7)
Noooooooooooo, surely the government is wrong here, they must impose at least 5 years more of the 'new normal' no bars, no alcohol in restaurants, no sitting on the same table as your family, social distancing, no gatherings over 1, in fact, to show the government is in control, it is essential that the normal population must have no enjoyment whatsoever............
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10 minutes ago, Aussieroaming said:
Thats the problem, these airlines are showing flights, allow bookings but then have no flights leaving. I'm trying to get back to UK in order to start the process of getting back to Thailand and flights here are also allowing bookings and then cancelling. Lufthansa have done this several times here and many expats here are now waiting as well.
Where are you now?
I know of lots of people that have flown back to the UK from BKK in the last couple of weeks, Qatar are flying daily (02.10hrs) and most report that the flights are pretty empty.
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1 minute ago, Deez said:Nobody is asking you to go out. People are asking to support their families. How do you suggest they do that while we wait until people like you think it is safe? BTS is packed, markets are packed, Makro is packed, 7-11 is packed. Should they all be closed as well until you feel comfortable with the numbers?
Exactly, it is time to move on and let people earn money.
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1 minute ago, Oldie said:And because they also will drink they will not use any masks. And since they want to chat they will sit close together. And they might move from one bar to another and might meet many different people.
And?
Life HAS to go on, I can happily sit with a couple of friends with a distance between us and chat, why is it OK to go to a restaurant in the same circumstances but not a bar?
Please don't say the restaurant is for eating.............. that much is obvious, my point is that allowing people to interact in certain circumstances and not other makes absolutely no sense.
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47 minutes ago, robblok said:Both are essential businesses bars are not. Besides you get far closer to people in bars (we all know why guys go to the beer bars). Plus in the places you mention people wear masks. Can you imagine the girls wearing masks or their customers. I mean those girls have new customers every day and close contact. I mean prime way to spread corvid.
Your argument makes no sense, essential or not, people are in close contact, what you are saying is that it is OK in certain circumstances but not in others, half measures..........
Tourists may go to bars for the girls, most expats go to the bars for a beer and a chat.
As far as the girls and customers, isn't that still going on, via social media?
Most of the rest of the world is opening up entertainment venues, there is no reason why Thailand cannot as well, life has to go on.
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IF and I do mean if this girl is in the situation that you say she is, then she report it to the police with proof that this guy exists and then do nothing at all.
If the story is true and the guy sent money to her account from a Singapore bank account and the Singapore bank are claiming social engineering, then they are saying that the guy either obtained the account details of somebody else, hacked in to the account and transferred the money to the Thai account, or he managed to persuade the Singapore bank account holder to sent it, he then removed the money and did a runner.
In this instance, ultimately, depending on the circumstances, the bank account holder who allowed their details to be disclosed or made the transfer is responsible, the Singapore bank are trying to CYA by asking for it back.
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15 hours ago, webfact said:
Govt mulling which ‘red’ businesses can reopen in phase 4 easing
15 hours ago, webfact said:9. Gyms, fitness centres, and sports stadiums.
I thought these were allowed to open in phase 3 from 1st June?
14 hours ago, tribalfusion001 said:11. Entertainment venues, pubs, bars and karaoke outlets.
12. Large massage parlours.
Both mai dai.
And the reason for your decision is?
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Qatar are showing a daily flight out of BKK departing at 02.10hrs, for the shorter connection time in Doha the cost for economy is high at 70k+, best price is around 34k, but this is a long wait in Doha at over 19 hours............ ????
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56 minutes ago, Don Mega said:
Ahhh righto, So if the 10,000s of 1,000's of Thai's currently awaiting repatriation were all allowed to return tomorrow does the government have the quarantine facilities available to facilitate the ingress.
Seems to me putting up a few hurdles to slow the ingress was actually a wise thing to do !!
No, that is not what I said or intimated, I was replying to your question, which you answered yourself, however, the fact remains that the number of repatriations could be tripled, there is no shortage of space, the ones being allowed in with no symptoms go to a hotel, only those showing symptoms are being sent to hospital, a tiny percentage actually show symptoms or are positive.
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22 minutes ago, Don Mega said:
What requirements caused Thai citizens to be stranded ?
You answered your own question
14 minutes ago, Don Mega said:
Prolly go to the Embassy and get put on the repatriation list that tens of thousands are already on !!The number of Thais being allowed to be repatriated is restricted to a small number daily, the restrictions on planes that are allowed to land in Thailand increases the number that are stranded and waiting for their turn to be repatriated, they must get a fit to fly from a Thai embassy prior to flying, the embassies are restricted in their ability to issue these certificates, the list goes on.
In my line of work I know of several Thais that are currently stranded, the restrictions in place by their own government is making the length of time needed to repatriate needlessly long, this can be solved.
Plus some of the rules in place are ridiculous, we have Thai crew onboard Thai flagged vessels that have not been anywhere outside of Thailand, have had zero contact with anybody else outside of the vessels since mid March and the authorities are insisting they must go to quarantine for 14 days if the vessel carries out a crew change, this in turn takes up space for those Thais that arrive from overseas by air............. madness.
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27 minutes ago, 473geo said:
Sad attempt at justification, 'a lot' - how about the hundreds of thousands that did not travel home, not one of my 15 family members that usually make the journey home at songkran returned this year.
OK, hundreds of thousands did and those that did not will get the opportunity, it was not cancelled, it was postponed.
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31 minutes ago, Don Mega said:The foreigners quarantine is a cost to the government is it ?
Why do you keep banging on about foreigner quarantine being at the cost of the Thai government, absolutely nobody is saying that at all, but for the sake of clarity, Foreigners must pay for this quarantine themselves, it should cost the Thai government and therefore the tax payers nothing, OK?
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27 minutes ago, foggy farang said:
Travelling north from Pattaya in the direction of BKK, approx 1.5 km from the Pattaya toll plaza drivers will see the ON Ramp to join the new Pattaya-Map Phut tollway. This ON ramp is on the wrong side of the NORTH bound carriageway. Drivers wanting to join this ON ramp from the slow left lane of the carriageway will have to cross the outer fast lane to gain access to the ramp. The ramp should have been constructed on the left hand side. This will become an accident black spot. Be very careful when joining the ON ramp.
Yes, it will be a case of drivers positioning themselves, it wouldn't really matter which side of the road the on ramp is located at, if it had been on the left side then there would be folks having to cut across from the right in to slow traffic.
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1 minute ago, vinny41 said:
There is a logistical reason , last week the number of Thai nationals returning was limited to 300 each day this is due to the amount of available Goverment quarantine facilites, not all hotels are suitable to host people subject to quarantine, the hotel has to request to be approved and subject to Goverment inspection
40,000 Thai nationals have registered with their local embassy an interest in returning , some 15,000 have already returned leaving a further 25,000 to return.
If anyone is in doubt that quarantine is required or necessary suggest you read the following twitter post
Since February, there have been 104 cases of people in state quarantine with #COVID19. During the last two weeks, 17 people who returned from abroad were found to be infected #Thailand
https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1264056463640547328
Nobody is questioning the need for quarantine, it is essential right now, the government do have options open to them to increase the numbers, it is a matter of if they want to do that.
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5 minutes ago, 473geo said:
Well if I had postponed my annual family visit to see my children and parents, to assist the cause, I might be tempted to tell you to shove your quarantine where the sun don't shine Jack
A lot of Thais did not cancel Songkran, at least 60% of the large companies in the IE where my office is located took the 3 days and a lot of Thais did travel home, even though they were not supposed to.
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4 minutes ago, Don Mega said:
all Thai arrivals are quarantined aren't they, or am I missing something ?
Yes and if there is space and no cost to the Government, why should this not include Foreigners returning to their family?
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1 minute ago, Don Mega said:Nothing wrong with slowing the ingress of possible wuFlu carriers.
You contradict yourself, one part says Thais only and now they should be limited...............
Quarantine for all arrivals, Thai or foreign, simple.
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2 minutes ago, Don Mega said:Are they denying entry to Thai citizens ?
No, they are limiting the numbers, this can be increased.
I know of Thais stranded overseas and are desperate to come home.
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Covid-19: Keep wearing masks - risks from asymptomatic young people on the rise
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Agreed, more than enough.
What they fail to understand, the more they harp on about this kind of stuff the less effect it will have in the long run, people will start to ignore, this is well known fact.