nokia

Like some of you, i have a house & land under a 30 year lease contract, and recently, after a few years, i have been asked to pay an annual property land tax of a few K baht. Our contracts are drafted with the right to sell to anybody. A few of my farang neighbours had sold their house to Thais either at market price or at a discount when they need cash, with the landowner's approval. I dont think any locals will take over the remaining lease of the 30 year contract, so it's probably reverted back to freehold status for Thais.

So instead of the hassle of re-negotiation with the landowner(assuming still alive & didnt transfer to the children) just before the 30 years is up,

it's possible to sell the house & land, say after 10-20 years, to any willing Thai buyer, again with the approval & kindness of the landowner.

The house, being yours, can be sold to anybody.

The land, not being yours, cannot be sold. Presumably you have forked out the 30 years in advance on the lease, and, although there is often a clause allowing you to sell the land to another Thai, this will require the signature of the Thai land owner. Why would he want to sign "his" land away? He, or his family, still own the land and, at the end of the lease, will be in the almighty position of saying how much the next thirty year leasehold will cost. And don't forget, he already has banked the price of the lease for the next thirty years. No real reason for him to do anything in terms of signing away his land.

The "approval & kindness" could cost you nothing or a lot. There is no clear answer until you start negotiations with him, if he proves difficult and for some reason you have to move away, then I suspect you will not get much back directly. But, of course, the lease is still valid, so maybe you could find a renter for the property?

Surely the land owner is responsible for the property tax, as indeed for the tax payable on the lease?

Oh the joys of trying to own real estate in Thailand. No idea why people bother, to be honest.

I havent figured why the land owner wants us to pay the annual property tax of a few K baht. Perhaps to avoid the little hassle for the 20+ years until the 30 lease is up OR to wash the hands off the property (dream)? I really dont know....anyone care to comment?

You have a point. Perhaps the farang owners in my moobahn did pay the landowner a small % of the sale price after they had sold to the Thai buyers.

Well, in some parts of Thailand, for the price of a 30 year leasehold land & house, you can only get a small freehold studio apartment/condominium which might not be so convenient if you have a family.

Any hse owner or condo owners care to share your views on this?

If I am understanding correctly (not clear exactly whats in your contract if at all regarding this situation more info might be helpful):-

However on the basis of what you have said, you appear to have a lease and maybe own the house separate from the land.

A Thai would of course most likely wish to take over the freehold of the land and perhaps the house.

So you would be 'selling' (or rather forgoing / scrapping) the remainder of the lease to the buyer and perhaps selling the house to them. The current landowner would be selling the freehold to them.

However what is that really worth?

The current landowner is going to want to be paid and depending on their attitude I would suggest that you are going to get the (much) smaller percentage.

If I am misunderstanding apologoes and please clarify???

Yes i have a 30 yr lease on the land and own only the house like most foreigners.

You might be right. If the lease has a remaining duration of 25 years(5 years of usage), perhaps the landowner wants to be compensated for

the 5 yr of usage, which is 5/30 or 16% of the land price excluding the house.

sorry not what i meant - the landowner will want paying for the freehold (by the new thai buyer) with some money for the farang to vacate early, rather than a refund for the remainder of the lease?

Yes i get what u meant. I meant if the landowner is greedy(in most cases), somebody (either the new thai buyer or the farang owner) may be asked to pay an amt equivalent to the no of years that the farang had stayed on the land. It may be a small amount if the farang stayed only a few years or a large amount if he stayed for 10-20 years.

If I am understanding correctly (not clear exactly whats in your contract if at all regarding this situation more info might be helpful):-

However on the basis of what you have said, you appear to have a lease and maybe own the house separate from the land.

A Thai would of course most likely wish to take over the freehold of the land and perhaps the house.

So you would be 'selling' (or rather forgoing / scrapping) the remainder of the lease to the buyer and perhaps selling the house to them. The current landowner would be selling the freehold to them.

However what is that really worth?

The current landowner is going to want to be paid and depending on their attitude I would suggest that you are going to get the (much) smaller percentage.

If I am misunderstanding apologoes and please clarify???

Yes i have a 30 yr lease on the land and own only the house like most foreigners.

You might be right. If the lease has a remaining duration of 25 years(5 years of usage), perhaps the landowner wants to be compensated for

the 5 yr of usage, which is 5/30 or 16% of the land price excluding the house.

According to law firm advertisering on TV you can transfer and even sell the lease to another individual.

I dont think any Thai buyer wants to buy a leasehold property of 30 years or less. They want a freehold property without any restriction.

So if a foreigner manage to sell his property to a Thai, he recoups his investment & is set free from the worry about the 30 year clause.

Am i correct?

Hey folks,

Like some of you, i have a house & land under a 30 year lease contract, and recently, after a few years, i have been asked to pay an annual property land tax of a few K baht. Our contracts are drafted with the right to sell to anybody. A few of my farang neighbours had sold their house to Thais either at market price or at a discount when they need cash, with the landowner's approval. I dont think any locals will take over the remaining lease of the 30 year contract, so it's probably reverted back to freehold status for Thais.

Yes i have read thru the discussion on The 30+30(+30) Year Lease .

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/303030-Year-...p;hl=30+30+year

So instead of the hassle of re-negotiation with the landowner(assuming still alive & didnt transfer to the children) just before the 30 years is up,

it's possible to sell the house & land, say after 10-20 years, to any willing Thai buyer, again with the approval & kindness of the landowner.

Any experts or homeowners care to comment?

In CM, I have a simple 3 stage filter with the same order charcoal-resin-ceramic,

but i asked a local salesman who said the order should be ceramic-resin-charcoal.

Does it make a difference? Is it easier to maintain/clean by putting the ceramic filter at the 1st stage?

Any water experts care to voice their opinions?

I would think that having the charcoal filter first would make it clog up much faster. Having the ceramic filter first would make sense since it is scrubbable, whereas a charcoal filter is not.

I guess it makes sense provided the ceramic filter is not over-clogged by bigger particles, depending on the water source.

btw, i understand the recommended lifespan for a ceramic is 1 yr, and six months for resin or charcoal.

Does scrubbing the ceramic, or adding salt to the resin extends the lifespan?

THanks.

Cheers!

Here's mine. Can get em at Home Pro. Stage 1 is activated charcoal, this gets back washed to clean. Stage 2 is resin - salt water soak to reactivate & Stage 3 is a ceramic fliter 5 micron.

Gives very tasty water. In Bangkok the water supply is very good anyway. This removes the chloramine & any solids.

As mentioned I think they start at around 3500 baht.

In CM, I have a simple 3 stage filter with the same order charcoal-resin-ceramic,

but i asked a local salesman who said the order should be ceramic-resin-charcoal.

Does it make a difference? Is it easier to maintain/clean by putting the ceramic filter at the 1st stage?

Any water experts care to voice their opinions?

Cheers!

The guage on your pump is probably useless irregardless of what increments it runs in. I take it you are talking about running your pump for 10 minutes at a time, then resting it for the same (to let its little motor cool). I actually have a bigger one with an auto cut off switch, it automatically stops if it get too hot. I would imagine if you only need to pump a few psi into your tyres at a time, that 10 minutes will roughly be enough. Most batteries will handle a few minutes of the pump going without causing a problem, but I personally let the motor run for the few minutes when my pump is cranking as it causes the battery stress. If you run the pump with the engine off & then start the motor & the pump seems to pick up pace, then i would run it with the engine on. I HATE Flat batteries .

As for my vehicle I have an oversized tyres & run them at varying pressures depending on what the vehicle is doing or how it is loaded. I have when its heavy run them at 40-42psi, on the other end of the scale in deep sand had them as low as 16psi. Not all tyres on cars are created equal, they vary from LT (Light Truck) tyres to sports (Low profile) tyres, they all have different load ratings & speed ratings - all this info is printed on the sidewall of the tyre.

Someone before mentioned that most vehicles have a tyre placard on the vehicle, sometimes its in the drivers door area, sometimes in the glove box...its a pressure recommended by the cars manufacturer, its a great place to start if you don't know where to inflate your tyres to. Having said that the tyre manufacturer will either print a range or a limit to which their tyre should be inflated to because they know that its appropriate to change the pressure in your tyres depending on what is happening with the vehicle, ie: speeds & loads. You will find all the info you need on the side of your tyre.

If you cars wheel alignment is very good (& its probably very hard to get a good alignment done here in thailand) then it is wise to keep an eye on the tread wear of the tyres - if you are running them a bit soft for the way in the vehicle is being used, you will find the tyres will wear on both the inner & outer edges. If you are running the tyres too hard the centre of the tyre will wear out faster. (I'm talking about the width of the tyre here). Of course most vehicles I see here in thailand have an alignment problem where either the inner edge or the outer edge of the tyre wears out & the other end of the tyre still has great tread depths.

If the guage in the pump at the service station is in the handpiece of the pump, then i would be cautious about its readings, if its one of those new wizbang electronic ones - its probably accurate.

I have always found the tyres you get with your standard hilux or whatever are generally crap, I hate em with vengance & personally prefer to upgrade to higher market end tyres, afterall they are the thing that keeps your vehicle on the road. I replace my tyres before they reach the 'tyre wear indicators' on the tyres.

Anyway, tyres they are black and round (nearly round) & they need to be taken care of & inspected often....take care of them & they will take care of you. Have you noticed when they go flat its only the bottom that seems to have a problem?

Gd advice. The pump at the service station is the digital one, it's quite accurate although the rubber tube is occasionally broken & needs to be repaired.

It seems that most drivers are nonchalant about their tyres, rarely checking on it, & pumping them once in a blue moon?

Err, is it just me but don't all cars and trucks have the correct pressures on a plate inside the driver's door ?

My D-Max says 29 all around but I initially thought that too low. I had them at 33 or so but put them down to 31 and it handles better. At 29 it does seems a little soft but these guys spend the bucks to know what they are doing don't they ?

I have a gauge I bought in Carrefour for about Bt300 or so. Circular with a stick on it. Had the same type in Europe for years as well.

I check tyres for stones all the time and use a little soup spoon to remove them, kept in the glove compartment. I check pressures about once every 2 weeks or before a trip. The drive to the garage is about 3km and I take it very easy.

Driving at 35+ seems like the truck is dancing on the road and is much more stable at the lower pressures.

WOw, you are very meticulous, few drivers i know check & remove small stones from their tyres.

Yes i think 29psi seems to be the benchmark for a comfortable ride. At 35psi, it gets a bit hard especially going over humps & potholes.

I have a similar guage but after dropping it, it's useless.

The information sticker inside the drivers side door on my 4x4 4 door Vigo says 29 psi. Wouldn'tthis be the correct pressure to run them at seeing how the built the car? I put 30 in cold at home with my own compressor and tyre guage I keep in the glove box. Thais love to put crazy pressures in, I had a guy put 45 in for my wife the other day when she came to pick me up. I went down their and showed him the sticker-just so he knew and my mrs gave me a hard time for "causing problem"!

I think at 45-50 psi, there is a high risk of tyre blowout, esp on a hot day & sharp stones.

At 30+psi, the ride gets harsher but the mileage improves. It's really up to you.

Nokia,

I completed a tyre technology course a number of years ago, during my employment. I am very fussy about tyre pressures and many people underestimate the importance of correct tyre pressures. Both overinflated and underinflated tyres can effect the handling and safety of your vehicle, irregardless of its make and model. Not all tyres are made to the same high standards, especially in these parts of the world.

As you might imagine, I almost have a baby everytime I see someone inflating tyres in Thailand and then using their thumb or foot to check its pressure.

Nokia, as a 'general' guide, tyres of a motor vehicle increase their tyre pressure by about 10% after normal driving. The best time to check you tyre pressure is when 'cold', perhaps in the morning prior to the vehicle being driven.

It doesnt surprise me that you picked up a new car with 50psi in the tyres....that is too much.

As every tyre is different, you should follow or stick closely with the particular manufactures details on the tyre. There is a range in which a tyre should be inflated to as a guide & as the user of any one particular vehicle, you can adjust those pressures to suit your particular driving style, preference and or vehicle load etc. For example, if the tyre indicates maxium pressure of 44psi (that will be a cold temp) and the vehicles manual suggest the original tyre should be inflated to a certain pressure, start there & slowly adjust the pressure from there.

There will be many opinions on exactly what is right for the varying types, styles and models of vehicles, tyres are a very personal choice.

Don't judge a tyre based on its little bulge at the front >>>> Put an accurate pressure guage on it. On that point, I never trust any guages from Service Stations, you will nearly always see them being dropped & its very common that they are not accurate. Get a good guage & keep it inside the vehicle. If you drop it from any height higher than your ankle - throw it in the bin. If you check your tyres at the service station & they come in at 38psi (warm temp), then they will be close to the 35psi mark, cold.

If you are driving off road, with a heavily laden vehicle at speed, on corrigations (such as in outback areas) then the tyre will heat up more than the 10% (Its not the sort of driving done here in Thailand.

Be mindful that incorrectly inflated tyres will adversly effect, steering, braking and general handling. Underinflated tyres heat up significantly quicker & may cause the tyre to suffer from what is known as 'Delamination' where the tread of the tyre seperates from the tyre carcase.....not very nice thing to happen at highway speeds, especially on the steering end of the vehicle. Over inflated tyres can also affect the handling of the car, it does this by reducing the 'contact area' of the tyre on the road surface, will make the tyres harder & therefore less comfortable & really high pressures may cause a bouncing type affect & in extreem cases a sudden and unexpected deflation (Blowout).

You havent asked for half the information supplied but if you have any other questions I can try to answer them, the sidewall of your tyre contains alot of information which can determine many things about the individual tyre.

Good luck & take care of your tyres & tyre guage. I also bought a cheap tyre pump here in thailand, so i can do the pressures at home instead of wrestling some young thai guy at the service station, you can get them as cheap as a few hundred baht and they simply plug into the cigarette lighter....that way you can always pump up at home before setting off. I have found the guage supplied with it is inaccurate. VDO supply good tyre guages.

Thank you for sharing your expertise & essential info on tyre maintenance.

So what's your tyre pressure for your pickup/car?

I also have a air compressor pump but

1. the radial meter guage shows increments of 10 psi which is difficult to estimate.

The pump at the service station is in increment of 1psi.(usually out of order due to over usage)

2. it states that "after 10 minutes of continuous usage, it should rest 10 minutes"

3. Do i need to start/keep the car engine going, or will the car battery be flat if i use the pump for too long???

Cheers!

Luckyboy,

It's a rough estimate. Anyway, I measured it in the evening after the sun set or at the petrol station. I think the pressure may be 1 or 2 psi higher on a hot afternoon?

Farma,

i noticed my front tyres have a little bulge compared to the rear tyres, maybe the front is heavier(engine) and do you think the psi should be increased?

Motoring folks,

When i received the Vigo from the Toyota dealer, the front tyres were 50psi! and rear 35psi,

but the manual recommended 29psi for front & rear.

And on the 265/70 R16 tyres indicated "do not exceed 44psi".

Any tyre experts care to comment?

Cheers!

hey motoring folks,

The tyre pressure for my Vigo 4X4 double cab is about 35 psi, front & rear

as i use it for light usage only. WHat's yours?

Cheers!

I know this is going to lead to some confusion, but I am going to actually answer the OP's question!

Go to Warorot market and find the dead escalator (has not worked for years). Go up the escalator and look to your right. You will see a shop that sells some cosmetic items, scissors, hair clippers, etc. Ask at this shop - success!

The guy who does the sharpening may or may not be at the shop; half of the time he's at a little booth around the back where he does the actual sharpening using some fairly heavy duty machinery. He will sharpen anything - hair clipper blades for me for instance. If you see him sharpening stuff he wears mad looking taped together glasses that make him look like a mad boffin serial killer. He may be a serial killer, I just don't know, but if he is a bet he uses a very sharp knife...

Eureka! Finally the answer, although i had sharpened my knives temporarily using a stone.

How much does he charge ie clipper blades or a knife? Maybe i will ask him to sharpen a Medieval Halberd?? Just kidding...

Cheers!

halberd.bmp

Bill97.

For a very good selection of knives, machetes

you could also look at any one of the roadside stalls on the main road to mai jo

regards ..... dave2

Dave2,

Very detailed pics. Do you which one is the machete for opening a coconut? I dont need a samurai sword for a coconut.

I try to "greng jai"(reluctant to impose on) my thai neighbours by not asking them questions

so as not to let them score points in their favour krap. Does it make sense?

for the directionally challenged, which tesco is tesco khamtien? thank you!

It's north of CM city, just before the superhighway... near the flower market...

Cheers!

Ok folks,

i managed to successfully sharpen 2 meat cleavers to my missus' approval using Blinky's instructions at 20'c angle.

Thanks Blinky

You are more than welcome nokia.

But I must admit I am wondering whether you are either a complete moron or someone merely taking the piss. Still not too sure, can you offer some evidence that you are the latter?

Haha... Let's have a New Year laugh on me!!! Blame it on the coconuts...

To husk coconut pointed wooden stake in ground like one of the previous pictures.

to open for juice heavy Chinese chopper corner edge of blade closest to handle several wacks in a circle motion around top part of coconut

I tried using the corner edge of chopper/meat cleaver, after several whacks in a circle motion, i got the juice and a few tiny dents on the edge.

That's why i needed to sharpen the knives.

Let's have a New Year laugh on me!!!

HaPpY NeW YeAr

& may all your wishes come true!

Cheers!

Thanks T_Dog,

I also noticed a roadside knife stall along Hang Dong Rd.

So how much is it for your machete/coconut knife/bush knife?

Cheers!

Welcome to CM full time Nokia! I bought my bush knife at the roadside knife market on Canal Road. Head toward the mountain on Suthep Road and turn Left onto Canal Road. There is a long knife and sword stand run by a lady not far from this intersection on your left, just before a Gas Station. They suggested a coconut knife for me that has a blade about a foot long and an 8 inch handle. OTOP Thailand as well. Some day I want one in chrome or stainless steel! Note that the lady that was there when I bought mine spoke a hill tribe dialect and her Thai was very difficult to understand. Once she figured out I was after coconuts, her eyes lit up! You'll have fun!

Opps, i forgot to ask the bank for a T/T form after the funds arrived in the thai bank account.

The Thai bank should give you the T/T when the funds arrive.

If you can't show income earned here, you need to show the T/T form that you should have received when you wired the funds into Thailand.

As this thread has been covered many times before--maybe try a search?

As I stated before, when I transferred funds from LOS to UK and was asked to show a T/T form, which I could not find, I then produced a number of Foreign Exchange certificates to exceed the amount being transferred--end of problem; however, I now keep ALL T/T forms, F/Ex certs etc.. on the slim chance I may have cash to 'repatriate' again.

Is the T/T form from the foreign bank which i filled in to transfer to the Thai bank,

or do i ask the Thai bank to issue a T/T form after the transfer from the foreign bank?

Maybe i can try either Chang Klan or Tha Phae branch, because the Airport plaza branch declined the transfer form.

I have transferred money out of my Kasikorn Bank account multiple times to accounts in Europe and the USA. I just filled out the transfer form and handed it to the teller at both Chang Klan and Tha Phae branches. No questions were ever asked. I don't even know what a T/T form is. Note that not all Kasikorn Bank branches can do International money transfers.

Just went through this learning process in the last year. A lot depends on the age of the coconut. I can open the really young ones with a single whack of the bush knife. The popular green ones I whittle into a cone until I see the inner nut. These are the best as the juice is good and you can eat the soft flesh.

The old ones, which I happen to like are a pain as you have to the outer husk off. Builds strength I tell myself. I posted some pics on another thread on this same topic.

So i need to get a machete or axe for the old coconuts .... which i dont think is available in Tesco or Carefour... maybe in the local markets?

Pls pardon me, as i have been a part-time CM resident until now...

Hi folks,

I see locals opening coconuts effortlessly but what do they use? a small axe or knife?

ANd where do you get one?

THanks.

Cheers!

Ok folks,

i managed to successfully sharpen 2 meat cleavers to my missus' approval using Blinky's instructions at 20'c angle.

Thanks Blinky

If you can't show income earned here, you need to show the T/T form that you should have received when you wired the funds into Thailand.

As this thread has been covered many times before--maybe try a search?

As I stated before, when I transferred funds from LOS to UK and was asked to show a T/T form, which I could not find, I then produced a number of Foreign Exchange certificates to exceed the amount being transferred--end of problem; however, I now keep ALL T/T forms, F/Ex certs etc.. on the slim chance I may have cash to 'repatriate' again.

Is the T/T form from the foreign bank which i filled in to transfer to the Thai bank,

or do i ask the Thai bank to issue a T/T form after the transfer from the foreign bank?

hi CM folks,

Is it true that it's easy to transfer Money into LOS but difficult to transfer out?

A few months ago, i tried to transfer money out of LOS from CM's BKK bank & Kasikorn banks,

but it was gently rejected because i didnt had any letter of credit/invoice.

Alternatively, i could try Western Union but i heard the exchange rates are no so good.

So, what do you when you need to transfer money out of LOS, after transferring it in.

Any advice appreciated.

Cheers!