Evilbaz

It is great to see your attitude change as this Thread progressed.

If you had gone to any IO with the attitude originally displayed you would be banged up , regardless of having the fine money.

If you have to pawn your stuff (which is better than renting your body!) leave the ticket with your GF who can reclaim them as you send the money (plus 3% per month interest).

Good luck, shut up and let us know the outcome when back home.

You have hopefully learnt some very valuable lessons for life.

I went to Banana in Penang and the lady in charge didn't have a clue about using the combination method for a retirement Visa.

She insisted I needed a minimum of 400,000 Baht in the bank?!

That would have meant over a million with my pensions affidavit.

Fortunately I started there early so still had time to make it to the Consulate where I sailed smoothly through.

It's the first and last time I've tried to use an agent for anything.

1. Yes

2. Yes by exiting Thailand and re-entering

3. No

4. By any means you choose

5. No - a Multi Re-entry Permit  (3800Baht from your local Immi office) allows you to leave and re-enter as often as you like until the expiry of your Permission to Stay Stamp issued on your last re-entry.

23 hours ago, Jack james said:

Thank you... That's the best explanation yet. I think my best option now is go for non o. Going for boarder run every 90 days no big deal. Thanks!

As mentioned before very few countries issue a Non Immi O multiple entry visa (different to the "Non Immi OA -M") these days.

Perhaps? only the UK to State Pensioners?

15 minutes ago, baneko said:

Thats 2 gone already plus 1/2 for the re entry. Leaves 2 1/2. Hopefully IO are neat. My friend did the same lightly marking 8 boxes in the PP per page with a pencil. He was told off by IO.

It is an offence to deface a passport - regardless your nationality.

1 hour ago, Tanoshi said:

Which is why I stated 'each one carries a different conditions to qualify'.

 

Please state where I said based on retirement for a Non Imm O ME.

Your adding your own wording to what I stated.

Read the OP again and look at the topic heading ...

Not all countries will issue a Non Immi O ME Visa for one year,based on retirement.

So that is a red herring.

Once you actually live here and settle into the groove, doing yearly in country Extensions, time can pass by easily.

My last trip back to OZ was after 4years & 9 months absence.

You have to dig deeply inside Medicare rules but basically if you are outside of Australia for more than five years, without returning, then to reclaim your suspended Medicare rights (which are automatically suspended every time you exit through international Border Control) you have to convince them you are now a permanent resident of Australia by their rules..

Evidence they may require includes that you have sold all overseas possessions, rescinded all leases, and established leases, motor cars etc in Australia.

There is no common definition of what determines residency between the ATO, Medicare or Centrelink - don't fall into the trap that if you satisfy one you have satisfied all of them.

So, schedule a return to OZ trip at least once every five years.

Sorry to have to correct you again but having a TFN and paying tax is not sufficient to satisfy Centrelink rules for "residency" which are different to the ATO rules.

My ex was a senior Centrelink officer and made my life hell when getting the OAP and  to live in Thailand.

I studied and learnt every word of the Centrelink requirements - they are a law unto themself.

I suggest you do the same before posting erroneous information

They (and Medicare) know the moment you depart for overseas and return.

You can't "bluff" them on their "residency requirements.

46 minutes ago, David Walden said:

I'm very impressed but I have to ask the question "did you grease any palms to get this result' ???

Really?

A routine procedure for hundreds if not thousands of legal applicants for Retirement extensions each year - no bribes or agents required.

You have another (more expensive) form of Non Immi O Visa - you can proceed from there or its one year extension.

If applying for a Thai Driver's Licence make sure you have a valid International Driving Permit, not more than 3 months old and endorsed for both cars and motorcycle (available from the R.A.C.)

This will make the process a lot easier.

6 hours ago, David Walden said:

It clearly tells you on the applications they can refuse you at anytime.  No reason has to be given.  All the other stuff above I'm sure you are right.  I did suggest I have been researching Thai immigration for 5 years I think I know about 25% any help would be appreciated.

Thanks for the refreshing invitation to help rectify your LOS knowledge deficits.

I'll try ... by posting Facts, not voluminous opinions.

1. A JP notarizes your signature on documents which is part of their normal voluntary duties.

Only a very small percentage act occasionally as Honorary Magistrates.

2. A number of professionals (I was one) can notarize your signature.

One group included is "Class A consular officials" (who may be not Australian).

Their notarization, be it on an Embassy Statutory Declaration or otherwise is of no greater legal value than those in (1) other than their (Thai) Immigration police may require it.

3. Consulates and the ultimate Thai Embassy are staffed by a Diplomat and Consular staff.

Thai Immigration at border entries are staffed by Royal Thai Police (Immigration Division)

and also by RTP at your local Immigration Office.

There is no electronic connection automatically between the two different Ministries.

4.The head of RTP(Immi) will frame Royal Orders which will be approved by the Minister and then Gazetted.

These should be the Rules by which each Immi Office operates.

Not so - each Immi Office considers themselves their own fiefdom, sometimes extracting tributes from Farangs for "extra services".

Showing the Immi Officer the appropriate Royal Order (even in Thai) may get the response from the Senior Officer  "I'm the Boss here" - personal experience at Phuket.

So long opinion pieces on what you find "frivolous" are irrelevant and to date full of misconceptions as to "The Thai way of doing things".

The sooner you listen to those experienced and living longtime here, learn and absorb the sooner you will be able to relax and enjoy your life in Thailand.

P.S. "Purging" yourself at the Australian Embassy is as sh*tty act as perjuring yourself.

I have been asked for back-up proof for an Australian Embassy issued Stat Dec at Phuket Immi.

I always take it with me and produce if necessary.

So do all my expat mates around here - I guess we're an honest lot.

I have done a couple of OA (Retirement) in OZ apart from about 6 Extensions in Thailand.

The only reason I do it in OZ is to adjust the renewal timing away from Peak Season (once) or because a conflict with a Thai Immi officer (a Colonel,once).

In Oz I have flown in early Monday AM, with all documents and copies ready, with an AFP report done online and a Dr's appointment on opening.

Medical certificate completed (with copies) off to the courthouse for the JP notarization, stapled altogether, off to the Post Office for certified post envelopes (one return) and money order and I'm shopping by 11am.

Very straightforward procedure if you understand the rules.

Then to Dan Murphy's for grog supplies and head to the bush to my mate's farm for some farm-killed meat and a relax.

Some people seem to almost enjoy over complicating things.

The situation for Australians (referenced above) is that couples- married or defacto (if both eligible for OAP)  get a lesser rate per person than the Single rate by approx. 25%.

Australian Social Security recognizes de facto and de jure relationships as equal.

So an Aussie pensioner married to a Thai (who would likely be ineligible for OAP) would, if discovered, lose 25% of their Single OAP rate.

There is no longer any widow benefits.

40 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

The stat declaration is only to prove income not money in the bank. You have to have an income of 65k baht permit month. At today's rates the total income of 1,888 AUD you showed is only 48,785.92 baht. That is why it was refused.

You could of used the combination method and would of only needed about 220k baht in the bank.

At the risk of contradicting you Ubonjoe he stated $830 per fortnight (or should have as that's what he'll receive for OAP here) which is greater than 1660 per month plus $1000 per month from another pension.

I believe that exceeds 65000 Baht per month required.

OP - just state income on the Stat Dec - don't confuse the IOs.

BBC has just reported the Court will issue an arrest warrant for Yingluck as she failed to appear for the verdict.

So it may well kick-off shortly.

10 hours ago, OJAS said:

 

Nor at Rayong either.

 

Strikes me that, if you were to get stopped by the BIB for an ID check and were unable to produce your passport because it was being held by your local immigration office at the time, you might find yourself in deep doo-dah through no fault of yours!

Just carry a wallet size colour copy of your passport with copy of Visa/Extension on the obverse, laminated.

100 baht at a photo shop.

If a really difficult BIB wants the actual passport - send him to Immi - they're BIB too (never happened to me in 10 years in Phuket).

Which Immi office was this?

That's excellent for Phuket.

Could you do the 90 day report in Room 103 also?

How can it be "permanent proof of address" if your premises are leased?

Leases in Thailand can be cancelled very easily.

Phuket Immi approved my Online application on the expiry date of the last 90 day report.

Luckily I did a last check before the missus left to file it.

21 minutes ago, phuketjock said:

You will require all the same docs you needed for your last extension of your permission to stay on the grounds of retirement

your original non 0 no longer is valid and has nothing to do with any extension any more.

You can if you wish do your renewal early on the 1st Nov. with your 90 day or you can do it anytime up to 30 days before the

28th, or you can do your 90 day when due and your extension when due, they are not connected. 

Without wanting to be as pedantic as some - Why do Immi (Phuket and elsewhere) require a copy of your original Non Immi "O" Visa everytime you apply for an Extension (no matter how long ago it was valid) if it Q>"has nothing to do with any extension any more" Q.?