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15 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:Huh?
What, too many big words for you? Complete sentences with some thought behind them also.
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I would think it's actually higher than the mentioned 14% if you consider that some may have had it and beat it, so they would no longer test positive(I think). You would need antibody tests to be able to count these.
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One hospital screened more than 200 delivering moms and found nearly 14 percent had the virus but no symptoms
What to Know
- One NYC hospital instituted mandatory COVID-19 screening March 22 for all pregnant women who came in to give birth
- They found that nearly 14 percent of those women were positive for COVID-19 but had no symptoms
- One prominent doctor said the findings might suggest that the infection rate in the city as a whole is higher than thought
About 1.3 percent of New York City's population has already tested positive for COVID-19, but a small sample at one hospital suggests that among pregnant women, it is possible that infection rates could be substantially higher.
The New England Journal of Medicine published a letter Monday from four doctors at Columbia University Medical Center, recounting test data from pregnant women who came to the hospital's facilities for delivery between March 22 and April 4.
Of 215 women, just four had symptoms of COVID-19 when screened at admission. Among the rest, 210 submitted to nasal swab tests -- and 29 of them, or 13.7 percent of the total, were positive despite having no symptoms at all.
Of that group, three developed a fever after giving birth but while still in the hospital. (The letter does not detail their ultimate outcome, nor does it say what happened to the other women who tested positive but did not display symptoms while hospitalized.)
"Although this prevalence has limited generalizability to geographic regions with lower rates of infection, it underscores the risk of Covid-19 among asymptomatic obstetrical patients. Moreover, the true prevalence of infection may be underreported because of false negative results of tests to detect SARS-CoV-2," the doctors wrote.
While they limited their observations to pregnant women, others took their data to suggest it was possible -- possible -- that the infection rate in the city as a whole could be higher than currently believed.
"This study suggests that in hot spots like New York City, the level of #COVID19 exposure (and rates of some immunity once serology studies are in place) could be high. Not the 50%-66% needed to confer herd immunity, but much more than 10% in hot spots like parts of New York City," Scott Gottlieb, the former Manhattan physician and FDA commissioner, wrote on Twitter.
White House officials have already said that the "attack rate" of the virus in New York City is substantially higher than the rest of the country. (The World Health Organization defines attack rate as the proportion of a population at risk for an illness who contract that illness.)
As of Tuesday morning, New York City accounted for nearly 20 percent of all U.S. cases of COVID-19 and more than one-third of all deaths in the country.
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2 minutes ago, keithathome said:
I believe that NSAIDs work by suppressing the immune response of the body which is why it is a bad idea to use it when the body need a vigorous immune response.
Some people do theorize however, that it is your immune response that may be killng you and not the covid-19, as evidenced by the fact some people look like they are recovering and then they get much worse. If this were the case, the NSAIDs would help and not hinder your recovery.
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8 minutes ago, giddyup said:
It's actually uBlock Origin, which I've now disabled for Thai Visa, and no more problems. Thanks!
Damn spellcheck...
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6 minutes ago, giddyup said:
Not sure what you mean by "unlock origin", is that an ad block site? I have a couple of ad block add-ons but if I disable them I'm inundated by ads.
Its a Firefox addon, similar to adblock or adblock plus.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/11/us/politics/coronavirus-trump-response.html
An examination reveals the president was warned about the potential for a pandemic but that internal divisions, lack of planning and his faith in his own instincts led to a halting response.
WASHINGTON — “Any way you cut it, this is going to be bad,” a senior medical adviser at the Department of Veterans Affairs, Dr. Carter Mecher, wrote on the night of Jan. 28, in an email to a group of public health experts scattered around the government and universities. “The projected size of the outbreak already seems hard to believe.”
A week after the first coronavirus case had been identified in the United States, and six long weeks before President Trump finally took aggressive action to confront the danger the nation was facing — a pandemic that is now forecast to take tens of thousands of American lives — Dr. Mecher was urging the upper ranks of the nation’s public health bureaucracy to wake up and prepare for the possibility of far more drastic action.
“You guys made fun of me screaming to close the schools,” he wrote to the group, which called itself “Red Dawn,” an inside joke based on the 1984 movie about a band of Americans trying to save the country after a foreign invasion. “Now I’m screaming, close the colleges and universities.”
His was hardly a lone voice. Throughout January, as Mr. Trump repeatedly played down the seriousness of the virus and focused on other issues, an array of figures inside his government — from top White House advisers to experts deep in the cabinet departments and intelligence agencies — identified the threat, sounded alarms and made clear the need for aggressive action.
The president, though, was slow to absorb the scale of the risk and to act accordingly, focusing instead on controlling the message, protecting gains in the economy and batting away warnings from senior officials. It was a problem, he said, that had come out of nowhere and could not have been foreseen.
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Lots more in the referenced article. Thank you Mr. Trump...
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Well, I WON'T be watching the season finale for the walking dead because it's been delayed due to covid-19.
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My Firefox on android was exhibiting the same symptoms. I disabled addon "unlock origin" for forum.thaivisa.com and everything worked again. They must have added some more tracking stuff to forum.thaivisa.com on Friday which caused it to blocked by the addon.
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USA #1 again. Thank you Mr. Trump.
(CNN)More than 20,000 people have died from the coronavirus in the United States, which now has more reported deaths than any country in the world, according to a tally from Johns Hopkins University.
The US death toll on Saturday climbed to 20,389, surpassing that of Italy, which is reporting 19,468 deaths, per Johns Hopkins.At least 2,074 deaths were reported in the US on Friday, the largest increase in coronavirus fatalities the country has seen since the beginning of the outbreak. At least 524,903 people have tested positive for the virus, according to Johns Hopkins.https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/11/health/us-coronavirus-updates-saturday/index.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_latest+%28RSS%3A+CNN+-+Most+Recent%29
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5 hours ago, UbonThani said:
So when things are better it's someone else but when things go bad it's him. Classic Trump hater syndrome.
It's just the facts.
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4 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:Thank you, president Trump!
Hahahaha. Trump had nothing to do with the new reduced estimates. If anything, Trump extended the duration of the crisis by not acting sooner.
All the credit needs to go to the state and city leaders that put tight restrictions on early, like Cuomo, Newsome, the San Francisco Mayer, etc.
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4 hours ago, Monomial said:
Clearly you need it explained to you because zero times any exponential function is still zero. So it must have been polynomial at some point.
How do you know it is increasing exponentially now? Do you have access to the raw data, or are you simply repeating what you have heard? When did the exponential knee kick in because it couldn't have gotten there from zero? Assuming you do have the data, can you tell us the base of the exponential? Just the doubling time would be fine. We can calculate it from there.
I may sound flippant, but I am being serious. I have tried to fit real data to these models, and most of the time I can't. Mostly because I just don't have the real data, but I think it is only prudent to point out that if I can't find the data, you probably can't either. So we need to be careful about the rumors we repeat.
Nobody knows anything for sure. We are all relying on the "experts". And I hope I don't have to tell you that "experts" have an agenda just like the rest of us.
854 deaths yesterday, 938 today(Wednesday I think). You need more than that to show the numbers are going the wrong way?
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5 hours ago, phantomfiddler said:
"already killed 6,159 people" !! Good God ! over 100 days this is 61 people dying per day ! You would think the author of this article might have the sense to mention that in life,s DAILY tapestry an average of 150,000 people die, yes, every day, and the great majority from non-communicable diseases like diabetes, strokes, heart, cancer etc. Absolute proof of scaremongering media ????
You clearly don't understand numbers, do you? You don't average the total count by the number of days to get a number usable for anything. 100 days ago there were 0 deaths per day. Today 854 people died, and that number is increasing exponentially every day. Do I need to explain to you what exponentially means too?
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I have had many different banks refuse to do OTC withdrawals from my foreign ATM card. Even more frustrating is finding a branch that does do it but refuses because my card's numbers aren't embossed. I have a branch now that accepts my non-embossed cards without issue. It's funny when they get temporary staff from other branches who initially refuse but need to be overridden by senior staff.
And no, I wont tell what branch as I'd hate if they got busy and I'd have to wait...
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2 hours ago, BritManToo said:
That's the claim anyway.
How would we really know?
Well, given the choice of believing the Chinese, or believing Trump, I'll choose the Chinese every time.
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1 hour ago, Mick501 said:
Turns out there's a very fast and easy way to reduce new cases to zero. Just stop testing.
That's Trump math. It doesn't work in the real world.
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33 minutes ago, Ketyo said:
China did the following
- Had 1800 teams of 5 people each doing contact tracing after testing. Thats 90,000 people on test and trace.... contacts were quarantined or hospitalised
- Had a harder lockdown than many places for people in general; people tightly restricted to homes and all but essential businesses shuttered; immediately banned gatherings
- Shut down all public transportation and even private transport in heavily infected areas
- Ramped up their health facilities quickly... after being overwhelmed in Jan and Feb they had enough critical care capacity by March
- Insist on things like wearing masks when people have to be in proximity
- May have been using experimental/uncommon medical techniques not available in other places; for examples Favipiravir, and using transfusions of plasma from people who have recovered
As far as I know, countries such as the UK are just doing a few of these things and even then only partially
Exactly. China locked it down so tightly they completely eradicated covid-19 within it's borders. Once they got to the point of no new infections for a number of weeks, there was no virus left there to pass around so the lockdown could be lifted. Now to keep the nasty foreigners from reintroducing it...
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1 minute ago, Gweiloman said:Haven’t been following this for a while as I’ve been sleeping. I thought it would miraculously go away in April? After all, there were only 15 cases and that would drop to zero quickly, right? Or was I wrong to believe Trump?
Yes, you were wrong to believe trump. There's a reason his supporters are mainly the non-college educated elderly white males. I guess they never learned to see through the BS.
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20 minutes ago, Buffy Frobisher said:and a 400lb weight sitting on my chest
Why were you letting your wife sit on your chest?
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34 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:and you can see that 40% of democrats would be voting for Trump..
Really? Where do you get this nonsense from?
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17 hours ago, Tayaout said:Don't pin your future hopes on this study. It was only 26 patients in total. Of the 26, 6 were excluded(not counted). Of the 6 excluded patients, 3 went to the ICU, and one died. So the death rate was about 4%.
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On 3/21/2020 at 9:37 AM, papa al said:
papa's 1st bike in 1967 was a 100cc
Yamaha twin jet? My first bike too...
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Wow, most here are way out of touch with reality. Especially those that base their so called knowledge on the nonsense from Trump TV (aka Fox News) and the other rights wing propaganda machines. The selection for Biden's running mate will be Stacey Abrams.
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Cuomo says if Trump ordered New York to reopen, he 'wouldn't do it'
in World News
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Trump has walked it back and given up on trying to order the states to open up. He is now pretending he has the authority and has delegated the authority he doesn't have to the states, obviously in an attempt to save face.