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A month later, jet ski registration falls short
Nearly a month after demanding that jet ski vendors register at city hall or face criminal action, city officials are still mulling how best to end the seemingly unending string of embarrassing scams against tourists.
http://www.pattayamail.com/localnews/a-month-later-jet-ski-registration-falls-short-6710?ref=pmci
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'Before any new regulation can be drafted, the city still must find a way to determine exactly how many jet skis and boats are working beaches on the mainland and near islands, outline parking and business zones and figure out how to force vendors to register."
Why should that have any effect on regulations ? looks like just another stalling tactic for scammers and corrupt officials to get more money.
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Mayor insists Pattaya CCTV cameras ‘real’
Despite the broken cables and dark lights spotted on many of the city’s closed-circuit television cameras, Mayor Itthiphol Kunplome insists the city isn’t putting up fake cameras and is actively investing in the security system.
Several hundred million baht has been spent since 2006 to install 350 real-time cameras around the Pattaya area to
Mayor Itthiphol Kunplome says CCTV cameras, like this one overlooking the beach, are real, not fake like some in Bangkok. traffic and crime.
http://www.pattayamail.com/localnews/mayor-insists-pattaya-cctv-cameras-real-6708?ref=pmci
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A month later, jet ski registration falls short
Nearly a month after demanding that jet ski vendors register at city hall or face criminal action, city officials are still mulling how best to end the seemingly unending string of embarrassing scams against tourists.
http://www.pattayamail.com/localnews/a-month-later-jet-ski-registration-falls-short-6710?ref=pmci
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Sad news but he will never be forgotten.
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How to get more out of Google+
http://claytonmorris.squarespace.com/blog/2011/10/4/how-to-get-more-out-of-google.html
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yes thats him, a schoolyard bullyThe person who you are talking about is half thai looking from his appearance. He has been helping the jet ski operators opposite mike's and speaks thai like a thai. He is very aggressive and does a lot of screeming at the tourist. On sunday while he was handling two scams at the same time, he was forcefully keepping the lone indian from speaking to the other group being scammed at the same place.
Today he was once again the lead extorter while trying to convince the renters to give in before they went to the police station.
From what I can tell he shows up on his motorbike only after false damage is caused. Seems the jetski operators want someone who is not involved in the renting to handle the intimidation and extortion.
I called one of the local papers to inform them that today's group had just entered the police station after the heated exchange on the beach, just in-case they wanted to send a reporter.
There are three that I have seen a big man looks russian , the sikh guy and the half thai that you mention but I think he may be full indian very thin saw him riding an orange motor bike he shows some type of id card and has walkie talkie he goes to the soi 11 area often.
They use foreigners to befriend the victims and try and convince them to pay up straight away.
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I did have some hope after seeing the arrests by the tourist police last week, so when I saw a scam happening last Saturday opposite soi12 this is what i did:
- Called 1155 (tourist police) no answer, called several times.
- Called 1337 pattaya city help number, they told me to call 038410044
- Called that number, I had to ask if this was the tourist police, she said yes and asked her to send a tourist police to help. She said I need to call Mr. ____(his name i cannot remember) on his mobile number.
- Called his number, who I guess was a tourist police (all people were thai that i have spoken too so far) he said he was in bangkok and could not help. I asked if there was "someone else he could send", he said go to the police station on soi 9.
On Sunday seeing another scam across for Mike's I called 038410044 to come help, and I was told he was the only tourist police working, and he could not leave the phone unattended.
There are comments about this on the Pattaya Future facebook page http://www.facebook.com/PattayaFuture
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Some reports from yesterday in the comments pattaya one
Just been to Beach Road again, and right at this minute (6:30pm, 2nd Oct 2011), a young Japanese family are being extorted. This is opposite Soi 13/3, close to the entrance to Walking Street. I won’t post any more of these updates, it happens every day, but this really got to me.
There’s nothing I could do, there were the same thugs standing on the side of the beach carefully watching for anybody who shows too much interest in the Jet Ski scam. The boss guy looks like a fat Mr. Miyagi complete with whispy beard (from the original Karate Kid movie!).
What was so mean about this scam is that they targeted a young Japanese family today. The kid who rode the Jet Ski couldn’t have been more than 17yrs old, and he was with what seem to be his sister and mother. All three of them were told to sit down on the beach chairs and told they must pay for the damage. Yes, the same ‘damaged’ Jet Ski there every day.
The two kids looked really shook up, and the mum was showing a lot of stress as the thugs kept pointing at the Jet Ski and intimidating her.
Thing is, you can’t call the police. They are not interested, and this has been documented in dozens of web blogs and website reports. The Marine Tourist Police, who were supposed to deal with disputes such as the Jet Ski damage (yes, everybody knows its a scam, apart from the unaware tourist), their police checkpoint opposite Central Festival Beach Road, close to the Police Station, was closed as I walked past there at 5pm.
If you are in any position to talk to authorities, embassy, Press, reporters, anything at all, tell them this criminal extortion is continuing every day on Beach Road Pattaya.
There’s nothing else I can say, but I feel terrible for the you Japanese family that are on the beach right now being extorted by criminals that no Thai authority has managed to stop.
And another
Today, 30th Sept 2011, at 5pm witnessed the same Jet Ski scam taking place on Pattaya Beach. This was near Mike Shopping Mall, opposite Beach Road soi 12.
A group of Indian tourists were targeted this evening. One Jet Ski was accused of being damaged. Of course it was there before, this scam occurs every single day with the same gang of Jet Ski operators. Any intervention by passers by would be met with threats, and then violence. There is nothing you can do to help these guys. The four Indian tourists were literally begging, pleading, and were in a pretty bad state. The gang of Thai’s nearby that were part of the scam were laughing, drinking beer, playing with their kids (who were also asking passers by if they wanted to rent a Jet Ski) and pointing at their marks mocking them.
I see that last week (reported 24th Sept on PattayaOne website, and other online Pattaya news sites) that five Jet Ski scammers were arrested for attempting to extort a couple of Saudi Arabia tourists, and followed the tourists to the Marriott Resort & Spa in Pattaya. The police were called, arrests were made.
So, literally a few days later, the scams are continuing on Beach Road. Nothing has changed! NOTHING! The same scammers I’ve seen for months and months are exorting sums of money any between 40,000 to 80,000 baht.
Also closer to Walking Street entrance on Beach Road, opposite soi 13/4 and near there, the same gang of Thai scammers are there every day. They’re also continuing to extort tourists.
They often target the marks around 5pm-5:30pm, as it’s getting dark. There are more of the gangs keeping an eye on people taking photos than I’ve seen before. These gangs are well organised, in that they have around 10 Thai’s ready waiting to add to the threats if there extortion demands are not met.
So, arrests of Thai Jet Ski scammers has had absolutely no impact whatsoever on them continuing ‘business as usual’. It’s disgraceful. Same thugs operating for months and months, and none of them locked up and told not to return. Welcome to Pattaya tourists, play safe.
More in the comments on Pattaya One
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PLenty of scams again this weekend the scammers were going at it big time yesterday a large group of indians were stung opposite mikes shopping mall it went on for long time while the marine police sat under a tent reading newspapers further up.
The scammers are using another indian man and also big russian man who produces a card to the victims telling some bs .
The beach is out of control and getting back to how it was 12 months ago.
Very much looks like The scammers and corrupt authorities are in full control.
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Local Tourist Police officers will start handing out pamphlets to tourists to warn them about scams and will step up monitoring tourist-centric businesses.
Mayor Itthiphol Kunplome, also speaking at the meeting, urged business owners to be honest.
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That will teach him to shop at tops food court
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PHUKET: Top Phuket officials have openly admitted that fear of reprisals by taxi and tuk-tuk drivers is preventing people from launching affordable bus services between Phuket’s main tourist beaches
Why promote and bring in more tourists to this Haven of Corruption as others have said clean the house and not just Phuket all resorts.
What hope does a tourist stand against a Tuk Tuk or Jet Ski operator when officials are unable to control them.
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I don't know much about drainage systems but it very much looks like the storm water drains from second road all run down and into the beach and when a huge storm comes the pressure is so great that the beach sand is pushed away and that exposes tree roots.
If this is the case it doesn't matter how much sand they put there it will keep getting pushed away unless they change the drainage system.
At the moment there are many location that have huge lots of sand removed after the last storm and they are saying that it has taken years it took days.
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Thanks for that I will keep this info for future if reqd
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Do you also teach Thais to speak English if so what is the cost?
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After the last big storm there was a lot of sand pushed away by storm water drains going into the beach ,I think that is also where a lot of rubbish come from.
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Let's hope the new beach iskept a bit cleaner because the current one is a disgrace most of the time and also over run with rats.
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Any links to that story
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could be a stuck key try another keyboard
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Way to risky using atm's in remote locations and more chance of a camera being used to get your pin , you should of checked your balance to make sure you have not fallen victim to a scam. Best advice use ATMs inside shopping malls close to banks.
Best of luck hope you have no problems.
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This highlights how dangerous Thailand can be when government authorities admit they have no control over the mafia , tuk tuk , jet ski and motorbikes are all mafia controlled so much to being called world class holiday destination.
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Mafia / Miracle Thailand
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Hub of Corruption High Pass
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There is a new bar in soi 6 named bald as a badger they could worth a try .
Jet Ski Scam Pattaya When Will It Stop
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I have seen scams form all along the beach but if they were scammed by these guys a threat of a lawyer may help you are better off telling them to have an extra 200 thousand baht in the pocket just in case.