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4 hours ago, PoorSucker said:

Got my 90 days.

As usual there's no communication between MFA and immigration. 

I can say that I am not surprised on that one, However if it was me I would for sure have an issue. I am like a damn black cat when comes to luck.

33 minutes ago, PoorSucker said:

That's why I bought my refundable ticket to Singapore after 14days 

I thought the poster was asking about re enter on a non o visa that is valid until June or July next year.

43 minutes ago, PoorSucker said:

Stockholm embassy was ok with my 14days insurance. 

They might be ok, What about Thai immigration at the airport?

Just now, ubonjoe said:

The may not of updated the instruction manual yet.

The site has been changed,

It now shows this on the main page.

Am I reading correct that in order for you to get your visa you have to provide proof of air travel? However after getting your visa and applying for your COE that it states that you should buy your air ticket after your COE has been pre- approved?? Thank you

Visa and Certificate of Entry for Non-Thai nationals who are a spouse, parents, or children of a Thai nationals

Visa and Certificate of Entry for Non-Thai nationals who are a spouse, parents, or children of a Thai nationals
( If you already have a valid visa/re-entry permit, please request the Certificate of Entry – COE at https://coethailand.mfa.go.th/ )

1. If the applicant does not have a valid visa or re-entry permit, the applicant must request a visa, at least 15 working days before the intended date of travel, by filling in the information and upload all required documents online at https://www.thaievisa.go.th/ (Please note that the visa application fee is non-refundable)

For instructions, please check https://www.thaievisa.go.th/static/English-Manual.pdf

2. After successfully apply with the Thai E-visa system, please download the “Appointment receipt” (Click here to see How to download Barcode from Evisa) from the system and then mail the Appointment receipt along with the following original documents directly to the Embassy / Consulates-General to request the issuance of an appropriate Visa. 

2.1 Passport

2.2 Two passport-size photographs (2″x 2″)

2.3 Visa application form (Download) (if the applicant does not have a valid visa to enter Thailand)

2.4 Proof of flight confirmation/reservation, indicating the trip from US to Thailand

2.5 Medical insurance guaranteeing that the insurance company will cover a minimum of 100,000 USD (or equivalent in other currencies) of medical costs incurred by the applicant in Thailand, including medical costs in the event that the applicant contracts COVID-19 (The insurance must cover the entire duration of stay in Thailand).

2.6 A confirmed reservation  of Alternative State Quarantine (ASQ) (Please check the list of the alternative state quarantine hotels at www.hsscovid.com or www.thaiembdc.org/asq)

2.7 Copy of spouse’s / parent’s Thai passport or Thai Identification card.

2.8 Proof of relationship with Thai nationals, such as a copy of a marriage certificate or Birth certificate.

For minor under 20 years old, please provide all of the following documents
– Copy of a birth certificate
– Copy of marriage certificate, In case of sole custody notarized copy of the court order, must be provided.
– Copy of passports or ID of mother and father/ legal guardian
– Original letter of notarized consent for the minor to travel abroad from mother and father/ legal guardian
***All supporting materials that are not in English must be accompanied by certified English translations and certified by an embassy only ***

2.9 Self-addressed return envelope and visa fee if the applicant does not have a valid visa. (Please note your own tracking number in order to track your package once the visa is being mailed back)

***************

I  thought the e-visa process was to get a sticker and give to immigration upon arrival, However after reading it appears you still need to mail your passport and supporting docs to your local USA Thai embassy consulate?  What is the purpose of the E-visa process for?

9 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

I think they may process the COE if you have been in both listed countries. You would apply for the COE at the embassy in Sweden.

Has there been any word on land borders opening back up? If I wonder if a COE will be needed example coming in from LAO border? 

I brought my wife and her son to the USA when he was 8 years old. He still a Thai citizen and will also become a USA citizen, He is now serving in the USA Navy. My wife and I had a daughter in USA and we got her Thai birth certificate and a Thai passport and have now moved back to Thailand for 3 years. Our son is planning one day return to Thailand after his career in the USA Navy is done he will be well over 30. I am pretty sure he wont have any issues since he will be over 30 I had read will have to pay a small fine but I think that is it from what I read.

Because of poor timing my mom has fallen ill back in USA and I have to leave quick and because of timing my current visa non-o (marriage) will expire before renewal.  Has there been any changes to obtaining a new non-o visa from stateside with the new  E-Thaivisa application?? I aware that I need a set amount of funds in my USA bank account as well as $100,000 usd covid19 insurance for the 90 days on return anything else?  Thank you

On 9/20/2021 at 7:11 PM, ubonjoe said:

That is not required for a non-o visa based upon marriage to a Thai. It is only needed for one based upon retirement.

 

My suggestion is to apply for the non-o visa online to the embassy in London. It is easy to get one based upon marriage. Only about the equivalent of 20k baht in the bank is needed to apply.

That way you would have more time to open a Bank account here. You will need 400k baht in a Thai for 2 months or proof of at least 2 months of transfers of at least 40k baht from abroad.

Ubonjoe, Is correct also if he only gets a 90 day non-o single entry based on marriage from the embassy in London, that he will only have to buy the covid-19 100,000 usd policy one time for the first 90 days?  Thank you

I thought the insurance requirement was only 100,000 usd covid policy until the non o 1st expires if based on marriage? coming into Thailand from another country

4 minutes ago, Bigz said:

Only your local Io will give you the correct answer as requirements can vary from province to province. Mine wanted to see a letter from employer and told me that being self employed and monthly transfers from my savings is not good. 

Wow not surprised by that answer! I would have thought for sure if you are retired drawing social security that would be good enough in addition even if you are not drawing social security but can prove 12 months are transfers from your bank outside the country would be ok. As you said yes it is up to your local IO but what I see all to often in the staff changes in the office then the rule that was ok last year is no longer good this year!

17 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

Going to stick my neck out here and say no one knows....not even the people making the rules.

 

having said that.....

 

Now it is established I can see the requirement staying as it will be a nice little money spinner.

I agree somewhat but based on the fact that you can get covid insurance outside of Thailand how does that benefit the government? It will still have somewhat of a hurt on tourism only because it is another added fee to there holiday.  

Does anyone know yet with Bangkok opening back up that after you get your re entry stamp and leave and come back and you are vaccinated (IE no more quarantine for 14 days) Will the rule change where you wont need covid insurance anymore for the duration of your current non o visa? 

If you just prove the money came from your USA bank account and transfer the required amount in Thai baht to your Bangkok bank on a monthly basis for 12 months that is all that is required should you choose that route?

3 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

It is the longstay option. I could not remember exactly what it said but long stay requires dealing with immigration.

The FTT (foreign telegraphic transfer) code in a bank book is only used by Bangkok Bank. Others have a different code for them and some only show a code for a domestic transfer the way they handle international transfers.

If using Wise Bangkok Bank is the best choice.

 

Ok thank you another question Is it correct that as long as you show 12 months of bank statements of 40,000 thai baht or more from a non thai account to a thai bank account that you would not have to prove it was from social security? Do they only want to see the 12 months of transfers of 40,000 thai baht or more? Thank you 

7 minutes ago, srowndedbyh2o said:

Thanks for that link. I actually had a couple of posts in that thread!

And especially thanks for the "site:aseannow.com/topic" search tip when using google. I’ve wasted way too much time trying to use the search engine on this website!

I have used US global mail for some time and never had any issues and like the other poster said I was able to choose a state that has no state income taxes as my address.

2 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

To prove a income of at least 40k baht you will need 12 months of transfers from abroad when you apply for the extension.

When  applying you will need a 1 year bank statement to prove the transfers and that they came from abroad. If the proof they came from abroad is not shown you will credit advises to prove they did.

When setting up the transfers on Wise (formally transferwise) you can select immigrations purposes so it always goes to the same bank. If set up for a Bangkok Bank account your transfers will be shown as foreign transfers.

When I log into wise I see several choices as to why you want to send I see a choice that says (for long term stay in Thailand) Not sure if that is the correct one because I don't see a choice (Immigration purposes)? I am not but I thought I was reading an earlier post something fft code on the bank transfer when you update your bank book. Thank you

I will be having my checks deposited in a Usa bank account and use transfer wise as the method of proving the monthly income instead of the 400,000 Thai baht keeping inside Thai bank account.  My question is when you use transfer wise to send the funds to your Thai bank account how does immigration know and do you need to show any other type of proof other than the 12 months of bank statements? Thank you 

11 minutes ago, atpeace said:

OK, so he mistyped or I misread. 

 

I still wonder how the affidavit using the accepted court certificate of marriage ( accepted by thailand) is going to include the cert # from a completely different document from the state of Florida.  That is not a translation but an edit.   Without the Florida cert number he is back at square one.

 

Edit:

I think I get it now. He goes to the embassy and writes down the Florida number on the affidavit. Then he gets it translated with the correct number.  Seems simple enough as long as the Embassy doesn't have an issue with the Florida number.

 

 

Pretty much the exact way on the affidavit will state   

" I first (name last name) married wife (first name last name) on the date of ( day,year) in the state of Florida. The application number is (*******) and the State file number is (******) My passport number is (*****) and my wife's Thai id is (*****)."   

That will be the affidavit.

I get it stamped and signed at the USA embassy then get it translated send to the MFA and they put there green and red stamp on it.

I think then immigration will be suffice with that.   

3 minutes ago, atpeace said:

Why complicate the process with two application numbers. Use the same number that is on the cert from the state which will match the number at local immigration.  Providing two numbers might cause issues and don't see any advantage. 

 

The new affidavit and local registration match. Done!

 

My only question - can you get multiple affidavits from MFA ( have no idea what MFA is but assume an official office in Bangkok).

I am not sure can get multiple from MFA (Ministry Of Foreign Affairs) but right now the number the matches the local office (Amphur) is the one with the application number which I cannot legalize here and the one that is official and legalized by The Secretary Of State Florida, USA department Of State and the Royal Thai Embassy is the one with the state file number I think listing specific application number and state file number on a new affidavit will resolve this mess, 

8 minutes ago, steve187 said:

you can only get married once without getting a divorce, what about the Freedom of marriage doc you have to get from your embassy, not really thought through

op why did you not just get the 1st marriage cert translated and stamped instead of getting one from a different office,

 

Because from I what read on this website and other research that was all that was needed and could not get legalized once I was in Thailand from the Usa embassy here. I read that an affidavit was sufficient enough get the affidavit translated and stamped by the MFA and then get the kor ror 22 but this Im office asked for a translated copy of the marriage cert from USA and since I cant do that here I had to get it legalized from the USA and the marriage cert that was legalized in the Usa did not include the application number it only stated a state file number but all other information was correct and by the way from the same office in the USA all marriage cert come from each state from the bureau of vital statistics.  

44 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

That should satisfy immigration. Not sure why they are being so pickey.

In reality immigration should be satisfied with what is on the Kor Ror 22 since it is official documents that proves your marriage has been registered here.

Totally agree on top of that my 3rd year doing this and have a dual citizen daughter 8 years old, all the docs were fine before but this time they wanted the translation done and stamped by the MFA. Who knows what will be next maybe have to run an exercise course under 60 seconds. 

2 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

It is not legal and it would require making a false statement on the affirmation of permit to marry affidavit.

He has already registered his foreign marriage at a amphoe as well.

Ubonjoe, I think my best option is to do another affidavit stating both the application number and state file number get translated and stamped by the MFA and I would think that this would suffice local immigration (Hope so!) 

Just now, EricTh said:

 

If you married to a Thai person, wouldn't it be better to get a Thai marriage cert in Thailand itself since you will be staying in Thailan?

 

I thought it was illegal to get married to the same person twice?

3 minutes ago, EricTh said:

@raptorea

 

It would be easier to read if you break up your very long essay into several small paragraphs.

Thank you, Please let me try to explain I did this step when I came to Thailand with my marriage cert from usa I got a affidavit at the usa embassy done got it translated then sent to MFA but on this marriage certificate it only had a application number which is what I wrote on the affidavit as it was the only number on the certificate and took all this to my local amphur for the kor ror 22.

This time Immigration wanted a translated copy of the actual marriage certificate stamped by the MFA done, and the way to do that is to get it legalized from the USA department of state and the THAI embassy in Wash dc I did that step to but this where it gets messed up.

The new copy of my marriage certificate that came from the bureau of vital statistics had a state file number on it and not a application number which I first used at amphur so after getting a translated copy of the one with the state file number on and getting it stamped at the MFA.

Immigration said that the numbers dont match on the kor ror 22 which is true and they wanted amphur to update the number and amphur said no they cant change the number because once it is recorded in the system it cant be changed, I hope this makes since and if you have any suggestions to please help me. Thank you  

I am thinking to go back to the USA embassy in Bangkok and doing another affidavit done but this time listing my application number and my state file number that came from the two different certificates get that translated and send to the MFA for a stamp and present to immigration.