6 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Doesn't MS make billions in profit? Yet the first thing they do is sack the people that made that profit possible.

 

During the pandemic, there was a huge boom in the use of technology, requiring the hiring of a lot of employees by a lot of companies.  People were shopping online as stores were closed.  People were working from home and meetings were being held on platforms such as zoom.  Entire school systems were conducting classes online.  Most of my Dr.'s appointments were on FaceTime.  

Do you really think that a lot of the people hired, or the tech companies thought that was going to be a permanent gig?   

16 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

It was a staged event.  She was smiling while the Polizei was carrying her to the bus.  They then stopped to pose for the cameras and she then did a thumbs up while in the bus.  She looks more and more like someone who is interested in the “Kardashian” syndrome:  Being famous for being famous without any accomplishment(s).  

So you think she has accomplished nothing?  That is a pretty ill-informed statement.   At 16 she sailed from Europe to New York in a zero carbon emitting sailboat.  

 Greta Thunberg was 'TIME' magazine's youngest person of the year.

Greta Thunberg was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize... more than once.

Greta Thunberg founded Fridays for Future.

There are many more things to add to the list, but I wouldn't want to overburden you with too many facts.

https://www.greenmatters.com/p/greta-thunberg-accomplishments

23 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

She is ignorant and misguided, as most fanatics are. As punishment she should be forced to learn about how EVs are made from scratch. Maybe a visit to one of those dreadful mines in the Congo where kids are working for peanuts in hazardous conditions? 

 

"“A lot of people [buyers] realise they can no longer shut their eyes and pretend it’s not happening, which was the strategy for quite a while,”

https://www.ft.com/content/c6909812-9ce4-11e9-9c06-a4640c9feebb

 

still the strategy now IMHO

Maybe you should visit a few of the major oil spills, first.   

The first thing that needs to be acknowledged is that both Biden and Trump are ultimately responsible for how their administrations handled classified documents.   

I suspect that the documents that Biden has may not have been in the chain-of-command where they are followed carefully.  That is most likely part of why they went undiscovered for such a long time.   

A fair number of documents are classified simply as a method to keep them out of the hands of the journalists or the public and protect them from the Freedom of Information Act.   That's a practice that should be reviewed.   

I rushed out and got the book the first day it was on sale.  It's well written and informative.  

3 minutes ago, Keep Right said:

Biden allows US Embassy to fly gay flags and promote ideology.

Being gay is not a religion and it is not an ideology.  It does not exclude anyone.

23 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

LOL. If Biden really had "forgotten" about the known documents, what is to say he hasn't "forgotten" about others elsewhere?

 

If the Archives didn't know the documents were missing surely it's time for an investigation of that apparently incompetent organisation.

It's highly doubtful that he supervised the packing of documents.  But, there is a special counsel whose job it will be to find out who did and what direction they were given.  But, just to be clear, it is his responsibility, regardless.   

There maybe a host of reasons the Archives wouldn't know about the documents.  They are not a policing agency.  They take possession of Presidential Records but unless the documents are obvious, they may not catch it.  Remember, he and Obama had 8 years worth of records and so far this is a handful of documents.  On the other hand, Trump had 4 years and a massive number of missing documents.  

Presidents do have run-ins with the Archives over documents -- not classified ones because those are pretty clear -- but other papers that a President may consider to be personal and the Archives may consider them to be covered under the Presidential Records Act.  Many of the records and documents are kept by the President after they are logged.  The records still belong to the Archives, but are permitted to remain with the President.   

If you remember, Trump was spouting off about how George W. Bush kept records in an old bowling alley.  That is true, but that storage facility was authorized and supervised by the National Archives.  Many, if not most, of the documents on display in a Presidential Library are simply on loan from the National Archives.   

The Archives also takes possession of all gifts given to Government officials in the line of duty, so all those items presented to the President (or an Ambassador) are the property of the government.  So, the National Archives has the responsibility of taking charge of everything from paintings to puppies  and even horses given to Presidents.   

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The return was in the process of being negotiated was it not?

If it were not for someone inadvertently discovering Biden's papers they would still be in the garage, wouldn't they?

No, they were not in the process of being negotiated.  The documents were the property of the government, who asked for them back.  They were not returned even after a subpoena had been issued.  

There is no indication that the National Archives was aware of Biden's documents.  His papers were in the process of being moved from the office when the documents were discovered.  They were immediately turned over to the Archives, and the Archives in turn notified the DOJ.  

There is no evidence that anyone other than Biden himself gave the attorneys permission to check his home.  There was no subpoena, and there was no law enforcement involved.   

22 minutes ago, candide said:

It's the other way round. The documents are marked classified and there is no evidence they have been declassified. So they are considered as classified until it may be proven they have been declassified.

Whether the documents are classified or not, they were not Trump's property.  They were asked to be returned and they were not.  

5 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

On a more serious note, I wonder why we are relying exclusively on President Biden and his legal team to search for documents.  I think it would be better if search warrants were issued and the DOJ sent inspectors to whatever locations are suspected of having such material.   The fact that these documents have been known about for months and not returned is cause for concern.

A search warrant is executed when there is probable cause that contraband is present in a particular location.  They apparently have no reason to believe that there are more documents in a particular location or that there will be any attempt to keep them.   There is no indication that the Archives is or was aware that the documents found and turned over were ever missing.  

The documents were not known about for months.  They were turned over the following day after being found.   

5 minutes ago, george said:

I wonder if Harry is a decent bloke or not. It’s  hard to trust all bad things that comes out about him.

 

what do you think, guys?

The metric in deciding whether someone is a decent person is pretty easy for me.  He served his Queen and country in the military and did so with honor.  He has gone to great lengths to protect his wife and children.  That makes him a decent human being.   

4 hours ago, dotcalm said:

Sure he returned them after he got caught. After he obtained the classified material ILLEGALLY, as in witout color of right and is guilty of federal crimes for stealing sensitive materials, documents in this case. Nothing can change that, it's like you can't un-shoot the gun that kllled. He's done, for sure on that score. The docs were locked in a closet at his office in UPenn with or without security?? At least Trump had authority to poseess the docs and they had 24 hour SS on the Mar-a-Lago premises.

So now perhaps Biden qualifies for the application of U.S. Code Title 18, Section 2071 that states, "Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States."

 

If you recall Marc Elias comments re USC Title 18, Sec 2071 concerning Trump, which we know damn straight was the tactic the deep state hoped could prevent Trump from running for office.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/clinton-linked-lawyer-says-trump-could-be-barred-reelection-after-fbi-raid-cites-us-code

 

He (Biden) stole sensitive, classified documents while VP and so much as admitted it thru his lawyers. Tough luck Joe, AND he most likely just destroyed whatever case they had against Trump thanks to Biden's thieving, treasonous ways recently uncovered at his document storage at UPenn.

 

Biden is going to have a very uninspiring  legacy rife with crime and corruption and massive policy failures all things considered and has become a huge national and global embarrassment and disgrace.

Biden's earned it and can thank all his voters for their assistance in electing him.

He never got caught.  He had the documents returned.  No police, no FBI.  His attorneys saw them and called the WH; the WH advised they needed to be turned over to the NA.  They called the NA who retrieved them the next day.  Everything was turned over including obviously personal papers to the NA and they can sort it out and return what belongs to Biden.   

Obviously, he should do just like his predecessor and say they are declassified.  The difference is, Biden can actually do it because he IS president. 

His insight and honesty is refreshing.  He has served his country and his Queen.  An admirable person.