Trentham
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Tony Abbott
Well please, please, please take him back.
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There are no great ones. Their ancestors all left for Australia in 1788.
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C'mon all you homophobes - one of you can start with all the sexism.
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Thai women smear themselves with whitening cream.
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Contributors here are commenting about something they know nothing off and on the merit
of one article, Thai workers in Israel are being respected, treated and provided with full worker's benefits
and entitlement as any other Israeli or Palestinian workers,
Thai workers have reeked havoc on the Israeli wild life by trapping and sneering small
and medium wild life for their own consumptions, Thai workers have been smuggling Ya Ba
and other drugs in to Israel for years as they were never searched or even looked at,
the laundry list is long, do not presume that this is ALL ISRAEL FAULTS.. learn the
subject well before irresponsibly commenting......
1001 apologies. The Israelis are a leader in respecting human rights and their investigative powers with regards to workers's rights and human rights is second to none!!!
I do hope you are simply being sarcastic and are not serious in your comments.
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There are beaches in my home country were you drive your car on there and park it at the spot you want to use
This man needs to do some research and get out more - stupidity knows no bounds in Thailand it seems
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You obviously come from Australia. It has 26,000 Kms of coastline and if you count the islands you can almost double that and many of the beaches you can drive on.
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John Bull should not be confused with John West. Two different companies. John Bull Tuna is canned in bulk for restaurant and cafes not found in supermarkets.are these the quality fish I hear so much about?
HOWEVER John West also use tuna from Thailand. I had some for my lunch yesterday.
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Do not miss the village of Boklua. There are two ways to get there - one via Santisuk and the other via Pua. The Pua route has fabulous scenery and you will pass hill tribe hamlets, buffaloes on the road and some other not well known but sacred sites along the way. It is a very good sealed road all the way and there is a lovely little local run resort there in Boklua to stay in. English is spoken there and the chef is famed for his great food. Try the chicken Makram [not sure about that spelling but it is a delicious local herb]. The king's daughter, Princess Prathep sometimes dines there but that does not mean it is expensive.
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Laos and Thailand to Work Together.............
and share the profits
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This is worth a look..................
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Just to be clear, this is not the 3rd death but the 5th in around a year. There was a British guy who mysteriously died around Christmas 2013. Lets not forget the french guy last month who 'hung himself' after tying his hands together.
This is a small island and the probability of 5 foreigners murdered/ disappeared/died under mysterious circumstances must be fairly astronomical.
You don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to detect a pattern here.
I understand that the body of another Westerner was recently found floating in the sea just off Koh Tao also. That would make 6 deaths.
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I do not want to sound alarmist but be very careful. Ten years ago I went to Bumrungrad for a simple headache that had been around for a few days. I was sent to a neurologist who diagnosed early onset Alzheimer's and sent me for an MRI at a cost of 30,000 baht. In addition he prescribed several drugs - Stilnox, Tranxeme which is used to treat anxiety, acute alcohol withdrawal, and seizures and a number of other drugs that I cannot remember which were extremely expensive. Obviously it was not Alzheimer's because I am able to write this story.
I also had laser surgery on my eyes at Bumrungrad for acute angle glaucoma about 6 years ago. Upon returning home to Australia I was told by an eye specialist that the surgeon had done the operation the easy way, into the lower hemisphere of my eyes instead of the upper and therefore I now suffer with glare very badly. I then had to attend the hospital for checks - at first weekly, then monthly for a long time and finally every 3 months. That too was very expensive 3000 baht per visit..My Australian doctor told me that was a blatant rip-off because once laser surgery is performed no more than one check-up is necessary.
In addition, I once had very bad shoulder pain and went to BNH Hospital and was put onto a neck stretching machine every day for a month at several thousand baht each day. It was diagnosed as a pinched nerve in my neck. They tried to talk me into an operation on my neck costing 300,000 baht. Thank God I declined. I subsequently found out, upon another trip home that it was indeed an injured rotator cuff in my shoulder.
Also at BNH I had been treated for reflux for many months and in spite of presenting myself at the hospital at 1 or 2 AM several times with extreme pain in my abdomen nothing was ever done apart from giving me reflux pills and once, a pill to push up my rear for constipation which I did not have. In 2010 I returned home for a while and went to my doctor for some reflux pills and he refused them and sent me for a CAT scan. It was cancer in my pancreas and I was immediately operated on and I am one of the 5% who survive that disease.
I can relate other less dramatic stories that have happened to me and also friends of mine in Thailand. It seems to me that medicine in Thailand is not a health service but an industry devoted to making money.
I do not doubt that Thailand has some good doctors but Bumrungrad in particular seems to be only interested in making money. PLEASE BE CAREFUL.
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It's the brain dead mentality of western people, whose conditioning makes it incapable for them to look outside the box.
These shrines work similarly to accident black spot signs that we have in the west.
If a Thai is driving at a fast speed on a stretch of road and sees one of these shrines, then they are more likely to slow down and thus reduce accidents in this area.
Get it now?
You are wrong. They are more likely to speed up thinking that they are protected. I mix with many Thais and that is how they think.
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In Boklua you will be stretched to see a Western tourist but a few Thais are beginning to discover it.
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They should travel a bit further east to Nan province. There is a village called Boklua which is not to be missed. There are three hill tribe groups in the area - the Htin, the Marbri and the Leua [not sure about that spelling]. The mountain scenery is glorious - very rugged and lush green and be sure to drive carefully on them. The road is sealed all the way. Hill tribe villages can be seen on the way up from the city of Nan if you go via Pua and you can stop at their roadside stalls if you wish. There is a lovely little resort in Boklua run by a Htin family and the owner speaks very good English. He cooks superbly too having been trained in a top Bangkok hotel.
I think Thaivisa rules prevent me from telling you the name of the resort but a google search will quickly find it.
In the mountains after Pua one can see an almost extinct tree - the Chompoo Phukha tree [look for the signs]. When you get to the tree be sure to blow the horn of the car to pay respects to the spirits who reside there. All the locals do so and you will gain face if you do too. There are countless walks, national parks, waterfalls etc to be seen and the area is quite undeveloped however an ATM has not long been installed in the village.
The owner was very helpful when I visited two times and acted as a tour guide for us. He takes a delight in telling tourists all about his village.
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Official number of road fatalities per year: 26000
Divided by 365: 71 a day. So using statistics, 58 deaths is pretty good.
There is obviously something very Thai going on.
I believe that those statistics only relate to deaths at the roadside. If you die in the hospital or from injuries in the following days they are not counted. As well, many deaths in the remote regions of the north and in hill tribe districts are not even registered at all.
However I stand to be corrected.
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Thumbs up to OP and his wife.
Instead of lodging a complaint with appropriate department or police, choice was made to post on thai visa.
Without sounding racist, but having lots of experience with Indian visitors , their side of story always skips a few chapters of what they did or said before other person looses their cool.
Well you are sounding VERY racist! There is nothing in the OP's story that suggests he is an Indian. He simply arrived on a flight from India. Every international flight I have ever been on has had a big variety on nationalities on board.
You have assumed the OP is an Indian and declared him to be a liar because of that so now we know who the real racist is.
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He did not have decent legal representation, but that does not mean that he was innocent. The legal system was very different in 1944. He confessed to the crime within one hour of being arrested and - as far as I can tell - never denied having done it. In fact he admitted to hitting the 8 and 11 year old girls with the railroad spike, but initially claimed to have done it in self-defense. Later, he amended that and said it was when one of the girls turned down his sexual advances.
Nothing illegal was done during the investigation and prosecution of the case and all the procedures used by the police, courts, prosecution and prison system conformed to the standards and legal requirements of the time and location. The court was very aware of Stinneys age but the laws at that time allowed for capital prosecution of a 14-year-old defendant.
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Here is Wiki's take on the case......................
Case backgroundStinney was arrested on suspicion of murdering two girls, Betty June Binnicker, age 11, and Mary Emma Thames, age 8, in Alcolu, Clarendon County, South Carolina, on March 23, 1944.[6] Alcolu was a small, working class mill town, where white and black neighborhoods were separated by railroad tracks. The girls were last seen riding their bicycles looking for flowers. As they passed the Stinney property, they asked young George Stinney and his sister, Katherine, if they knew where to find "maypops", a local name for passionflowers. When the girls did not return, search parties were organized, with hundreds of volunteers. The bodies of the girls were found the next morning in a ditch filled with muddy water. Both had suffered severe head wounds.[7]
TrialFollowing Stinney's arrest, Stinney's father was fired from his job, and his family was forced to flee the town under threat of being lynched[citation needed], leaving George with no support during his 81-day confinement and trial. The entire trial, including jury selection, took one day. Stinney's court-appointed defense counsel was a tax commissioner campaigning for election to local political office. Stinney's lawyer did not challenge the three police officers who testified Stinney confessed to the two murders, despite this being the only evidence against him. The police did not make written records of Stinney's purported confession, and at trial, Stinney denied confessing to the crime.
The jury at Stinney's trial consisted entirely of white people due to black people being denied the right to vote, which was required for people to serve as jurors. Other than the testimony of the three police officers, at trial prosecutors called three inconsequential witnesses: the man who discovered the bodies of the two girls and the two doctors who performed the post mortem examination. Stinney's counsel did not call any witnesses. Trial presentation lasted two-and-a-half hours. The jury took ten minutes to deliberate, after which they returned with a guilty verdict.
What I would like to know was how many white boys were hung during that era.
Probably not a lot of young white men were hung during that era.
Most of them were either in Europe or Asia fighting the war for Europe and the war with Japan.
If you are suggesting that blacks did not go to war you are WRONG.............................
Millions of Americans fought in the military during World War II, including nearly one million African-Americans. VOA's Chris Simkins reports on the black experience in the military, and the challenges they faced from World War II on.
African-American soldiers played a significant role in World War II. More than half a million served in Europe. Despite the numbers they faced racial discrimination: prior to the war the military maintained a racially segregated force. In studies by the military, blacks were often classified as unfit for combat and were not allowed on the front lines. They were mostly given support duties, and were not allowed in units with white soldiers.
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He did not have decent legal representation, but that does not mean that he was innocent. The legal system was very different in 1944. He confessed to the crime within one hour of being arrested and - as far as I can tell - never denied having done it. In fact he admitted to hitting the 8 and 11 year old girls with the railroad spike, but initially claimed to have done it in self-defense. Later, he amended that and said it was when one of the girls turned down his sexual advances.
Nothing illegal was done during the investigation and prosecution of the case and all the procedures used by the police, courts, prosecution and prison system conformed to the standards and legal requirements of the time and location. The court was very aware of Stinneys age but the laws at that time allowed for capital prosecution of a 14-year-old defendant.
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Here is Wiki's take on the case......................
Case backgroundStinney was arrested on suspicion of murdering two girls, Betty June Binnicker, age 11, and Mary Emma Thames, age 8, in Alcolu, Clarendon County, South Carolina, on March 23, 1944.[6] Alcolu was a small, working class mill town, where white and black neighborhoods were separated by railroad tracks. The girls were last seen riding their bicycles looking for flowers. As they passed the Stinney property, they asked young George Stinney and his sister, Katherine, if they knew where to find "maypops", a local name for passionflowers. When the girls did not return, search parties were organized, with hundreds of volunteers. The bodies of the girls were found the next morning in a ditch filled with muddy water. Both had suffered severe head wounds.[7]
TrialFollowing Stinney's arrest, Stinney's father was fired from his job, and his family was forced to flee the town under threat of being lynched[citation needed], leaving George with no support during his 81-day confinement and trial. The entire trial, including jury selection, took one day. Stinney's court-appointed defense counsel was a tax commissioner campaigning for election to local political office. Stinney's lawyer did not challenge the three police officers who testified Stinney confessed to the two murders, despite this being the only evidence against him. The police did not make written records of Stinney's purported confession, and at trial, Stinney denied confessing to the crime.
The jury at Stinney's trial consisted entirely of white people due to black people being denied the right to vote, which was required for people to serve as jurors. Other than the testimony of the three police officers, at trial prosecutors called three inconsequential witnesses: the man who discovered the bodies of the two girls and the two doctors who performed the post mortem examination. Stinney's counsel did not call any witnesses. Trial presentation lasted two-and-a-half hours. The jury took ten minutes to deliberate, after which they returned with a guilty verdict.
What I would like to know was how many white boys were hung during that era.
More interesting would be a comparison of numbers between the white boys and the black boys who were executed.
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He did not have decent legal representation, but that does not mean that he was innocent. The legal system was very different in 1944. He confessed to the crime within one hour of being arrested and - as far as I can tell - never denied having done it. In fact he admitted to hitting the 8 and 11 year old girls with the railroad spike, but initially claimed to have done it in self-defense. Later, he amended that and said it was when one of the girls turned down his sexual advances.
Nothing illegal was done during the investigation and prosecution of the case and all the procedures used by the police, courts, prosecution and prison system conformed to the standards and legal requirements of the time and location. The court was very aware of Stinneys age but the laws at that time allowed for capital prosecution of a 14-year-old defendant.
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Here is Wiki's take on the case......................
Case background
Stinney was arrested on suspicion of murdering two girls, Betty June Binnicker, age 11, and Mary Emma Thames, age 8, in Alcolu, Clarendon County, South Carolina, on March 23, 1944.[6] Alcolu was a small, working class mill town, where white and black neighborhoods were separated by railroad tracks. The girls were last seen riding their bicycles looking for flowers. As they passed the Stinney property, they asked young George Stinney and his sister, Katherine, if they knew where to find "maypops", a local name for passionflowers. When the girls did not return, search parties were organized, with hundreds of volunteers. The bodies of the girls were found the next morning in a ditch filled with muddy water. Both had suffered severe head wounds.[7]
Trial
Following Stinney's arrest, Stinney's father was fired from his job, and his family was forced to flee the town under threat of being lynched[citation needed], leaving George with no support during his 81-day confinement and trial. The entire trial, including jury selection, took one day. Stinney's court-appointed defense counsel was a tax commissioner campaigning for election to local political office. Stinney's lawyer did not challenge the three police officers who testified Stinney confessed to the two murders, despite this being the only evidence against him. The police did not make written records of Stinney's purported confession, and at trial, Stinney denied confessing to the crime.
The jury at Stinney's trial consisted entirely of white people due to black people being denied the right to vote, which was required for people to serve as jurors. Other than the testimony of the three police officers, at trial prosecutors called three inconsequential witnesses: the man who discovered the bodies of the two girls and the two doctors who performed the post mortem examination. Stinney's counsel did not call any witnesses. Trial presentation lasted two-and-a-half hours. The jury took ten minutes to deliberate, after which they returned with a guilty verdict.
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Regrettably, I feel that the inability for both sides of this issue to openly discuss with each other their views has brought this on. There really is no place where this issue can be discussed on an open forum without voices from both sides being raised in anger and hatred.
Sadly, this issue has always been relegated to only being discussed on forums that are either for, or against. There is no "middle place" where this can be discussed. It is almost as if the mere desire to openly discuss all views is anathema to the solution, ...if there is a solution. I do not think there is a solution. I think it is as futile as multiculturalism.
There are some things in history that happen once and cause change, and that change sticks. There are other things in history which continue which to come back at intervals and cause more harm than good, and do not stick.
If we look at history, this issue has been going on for a very very long time, and keeps coming back, and keeps getting put down. Each subsequent endeavor to get this issue to the top of everyone's consciousness and to make it acceptable in people's minds has failed, yet each subsequent time the ones pushing this issue feel they can do it better and do it right. Each time it fails miserably or horribly.
I wonder why that is. The trouble with my curiosity is that no one is allowed to discuss it unless one submits to either one view or another view. There is no tolerance to having one's own view, or even expressing it in literal terms. One must simply submit to black or white, or be frustrated with being booted out the back door by both sides.
And there is the rub, simply because to accept this means to change the face of human history, and to not accept it is to hold the course of the majority and continue with the repetition.
But in lightly touching upon the facts of history, one notices that whenever this view has reached any appreciable level of acceptance in society, that that society underwent changes that other societies in those time periods emphatically rejected. What I am saying (not suggesting) is that when the idea formed into a behavior, and that behavior was adopted by an entire society, that that is as far as it ever got right at the moment ...just before it came crashing down, and history shows that it came crashing down from within; ...not from resistance to these views, not from bigotry, or from any opposition. It crashed down from what is a highly debated topic of indulgence and overindulgence. The facts speak for themselves.
Thus, there are indeed examples of societies throughout history where this view dominated a society, and there was no resistance from within going on at the time that that society failed, and failed miserably, ...from within This has happened time and time again.
So, I guess, until such a time as a new view can be expressed in such a fashion to demonstrate why it is not anathema to an old idea, and until such a new view can be demonstrated as to why it is beneficial and conducive to an old idea, and moreover in a fashion that is respectful to old ideas and not a threat or attack on those ideas, well ...then that new idea (or old idea rehashed and painted with a different coat of paint) will continue to fail miserably time and time again.
I am not saying it is wrong to try... even again and again. What I am suggesting is that the burden of responsibility should fall on those who want to change the natural course of history with a behavior that never seems to be accepted, and whenever it is accepted, it comes crashing down from within, and within a very short time period.
Just my take on the situation.
What a load of bunkum your diatribe is! You obviously have unresolved issues about your own sexuality........you certainly dislike gay people but recognise it in your own persona and attempt to deny and cover it with this very long fulmination just like so many gay bashers do their with their violence. Your violence is verbal, probably because you are such a pathetic weakling that you cannot raise a clenched fist.
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Can someone explain to these people,that it means 7 millions Jews massacred in the worst atrocious manner ?
To elaborate: 7 million Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, free-thinkers, dissidents, handicapped & other "undesirables". Maybe if we focus on the gays & other sexual deviants, Thai people will wake up & pay attention.
WELL! With your inference about homosexuals being "sexual deviants" you have just rendered yourself and your opinions irrelevant to any thinking and intelligent people.
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Can someone explain to these people,that it means 7 millions Jews massacred in the worst atrocious manner ?
Why is it always "The Jews"???
It was gay people and black people as well and millions of ordinary people all over Europe.
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Stella who? I'm an Aussie from Melbourne and never heard of her and never saw a thing on Australian news.
The quote at the bottom of your post says it all. I am not surprised you have never heard of Stella.
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Greatest living Englishman.
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So why do you all want to emigrate to Oz? There are millions of you here. You have almost turned us into a third world country.