Trentham

3 hours ago, jerojero said:

Instead of army harassing tourists, send 50,000 down south and root out the bastard militants!

You don't have much understanding of the situation down there do you!

After all that has been written and all the evidence that is contrary to the verdict they still claim the the boys are guilty. It tends to detract from the sympathy I felt for the family.

4 minutes ago, dhind1 said:

Pattaya is a world class resort destination. It has everything a family could want or a single man or woman. Yes the sex trade exists, but it exists in many countries, Pattaya should not be labeled the sex capital of anywhere. This industry is available if you want to find it. If you do not want to see it then there are many other things to do in Pattaya that are not connected to the sex trade. 

Anyone who has lived here for any length of time is well aware that sex is available and where to go to get it. How does this make Pattaya any different from Amsterdam, Nevada, Germany or Australia? All of these locations have sex available. I know that these locations are more discrete and are not visible as a street show, but that does not make them any less a location where sex is for sale.

I have been living in Pattaya for close to 20 years and I may hit Walking Street or similar venues once or twice a year. Just because it is there does not mean you have to partake.

I would agree with the Tourism big wigs, Pattaya has much to offer to everyone and the sex industry is but a small part of that. In actual square footage Walking street, Soi 6 and Soi Buakao do not take up very much space, but they get a lot of attention from the media.

Who paid you to write this???

Good riddance. He's a nasty, bigoted, extreme right wing, fundamental Christian type. Let him scramble against Pauline Hanson to see who can be the most racist. That's who he will be stealing votes from if he makes it to the next election.

You only have to look at a picture of his face to see how bitter he is.

Try carrying a small water pistol filled with bleach or turpentine.  A squirt of that on their nose or bum teaches them not to come too close.

Another trick is to just bend over. They think you are picking up a stone to throw. I used that method many times on packs of dogs when jogging in the tobacco factory grounds near Benjakiti Park in Bangkok. It worked every time.

I would like to see Liberty holding a knife and Donald's head

41 minutes ago, mike324 said:

 

Acer is a Taiwanese company. Thailand is their regional center, so I am very surprise if they can't even handle complaints like this. They have resellers which doubles as service centers too. I would suggest you find the contact for the Taiwanese manager in charge. Taiwanese are pretty anal with being scammed themselves too.

 

In my opinion ASUS laptops are far superior than Acer. Acers are crap. Laptops normally have 1-2 year warranty, so you said you bought it couple years ago which would most likely not be in the warranty?

 

On another note, Its so common for technicians to scam its own company. Even ones own by Thais. I've been approach by technicians on call from the main company offering to replace parts for fridges/ AC at a lower cost.

 

 

Don't be too hard on me. I am getting old you know. I realised the moment I posted this that I had emailed Taiwan, not South Korea. Anyway they never got back to me. The replacement PC [ it is not laptop ] is 4 years old now and has never given any trouble. I could not be bothered to chase it up now with a Taiwanese manager. Too long ago. Anyway they will probably pick up on it from this forum.

I bought a brand new Acer PC a few years ago. A few weeks later it stopped working. I took it to the Acer Service Centre and was told there was no warranty because it contained a NON Acer motherboard and another non Acer part. An argument ensued of course and I won and they repaired it under warranty. To cut a long story short the motherboard broke down 4 more times over the next 2 months. I told them I was sick of taking it to the service centre and demanded they come to my home to fix it which they did for the 5th breakdown. All of this was under warranty. When they came to my home to fix it the guy unwrapped a motherboard from a dirty piece of greasy plastic and then I knew they were not installing new or good parts.  

I went to the Acer Head Office in Bangkok and tried to complain.  At first they said they could not speak English so I spoke Thai. That caused a few raised eyebrows and I demanded to see the sales manager. "Not here" I was told. "You must go home". I sat down and said I was not leaving until I could speak with a senior manager. Miraculously the sales manager appeared and I was told there was nothing they could do.

As I left their office I stopped and turned to him and said that I was emailing Acer head office in South Korea. He turned and walked away. I walked down to the BTS at Asoke and got on a train home and my phone rang. It was the sales manager telling me that a brand new computer would arrive at my home within the hour.

I had obviously uncovered some scam that Acer Thailand was pulling on the main company. Never had any more trouble and I am typing this post on that new computer right now.

5 hours ago, Prbkk said:

Linked to an earlier stabbing in Windsor. Now a child is confirmed among the dead. Meanwhile repulsive grub Senator Leyonhjelm makes a pro-gun joke of it, just a disgrace 

Love your description of Leyonhjelm and it applies to Bernardi, Hanson, Christianson, Lyle Shelton and a few others.

2 hours ago, Canceraid said:

No insults meant and also no racism meant. So apologies in advance if my posting upsets anyone. But really, Asians ie thais raping two farangs in their thirties......sorry but have you seen how big most farangs are when they are already in their late twenties....their waist sizes are HUGE.....I do not think any Asian ore thai guy will get turned on raping huge waistlines........its like try to screw a buffalo or a cow...sorry.....plus there are lots of slim and sexy Asians around be it guys or gals. I really think the whole story is fake.

Another thing perhaps you should know is that rape is not only about sex.

It is about power as well.

2 hours ago, Canceraid said:

No insults meant and also no racism meant. So apologies in advance if my posting upsets anyone. But really, Asians ie thais raping two farangs in their thirties......sorry but have you seen how big most farangs are when they are already in their late twenties....their waist sizes are HUGE.....I do not think any Asian ore thai guy will get turned on raping huge waistlines........its like try to screw a buffalo or a cow...sorry.....plus there are lots of slim and sexy Asians around be it guys or gals. I really think the whole story is fake.

I think you must have what your avatar suggests ie. cancer [of the brain]. If nonsense like yours continues on TV I may cancel my membership because its dribble like this that make the forums so boring. It is inane to suggest that most 20's or 30's Caucasians are huge. Maybe "a few" would be a more accurate number. I am a 73 year old farang and never been over 68 Kgs. You also display an ignorance of the various sexual proclivities of people. Some people like "chubbies". 

38 minutes ago, lungnorm said:

Question, How do two men get raped ? Don't they mean they were buggered ?

Oh dear! Somebody is in need of a dictionary.

1 hour ago, Kerryd said:

I call BS on the whole story.

 

Allegedly drugged, raped and robbed of all their money (and phones) on New Years Eve. 

 

Spend 5 days trying to get their insurance provider to tell them which hospital to go to. (<deleted> !??!).

 

Finally go to a hospital that (allegedly) wouldn't accept their insurance paperwork, then their insurance company tells them to go to a "private" hospital.

"On the fifth day my family back in Belfast got in touch with the British Embassy in Bangkok and we finally got sent to a hospital, but the hospital wouldn't accept our insurance documents. We then got sent to a private hospital, which insurance companies don't usually do, but because of our case they got us into this facility. The insurance company also said they would cover all charges, because they knew we had no money after being robbed."

 

So their insurance company gets them into this "private" hospital and agrees to cover all their costs, but then tells them to skip out on the bill?

("Gerald also claimed OUL Direct told the couple to leave the hospital without paying, as long as they still had possession of their passports.")

 

The police in Phuket just laughed at their story and said it happens all the time ?!?!?

(Uh huh. Conveniently that means no police report and no local news report apparently.)

 

They returned to Ireland on the 11th and, 11 days after the alleged incident, their doctor was still able to confirm they'd been raped ?!??!?

 

Funny how they only seem to be pissed off about their insurance provider though. Not overly upset about being raped/robbed. Not overly upset about the Thai police allegedly laughing at them. Supposedly someone drugs 2 men in a bar, gets them out of the bar, (presumably) rapes/robs them and dumps them somewhere (details very vague) and their main beef is with their insurance provider.

 

I wonder what the CCTV images from their hotel would show. I wonder if they, like previous alleged rape victims, skipped out on their hotel bill. I wonder if maybe they just blew all their money (literally) and then sold some BS story to the newspaper to try and recoup some of it. 

(There are organizations in the UK that offer to pay people's vacation costs if they have a "good" story to tell that the organization can then spice up and resell to other media outlets).

 

Your response makes no sense. I think you are secretly feeling delight at the horror these guys went through. As another poster has pointed out, these guys did not write the article. You cannot accuse them on the writings of a journalist.

I know one gay guy that this happened to in Bangkok although he was not badly injured. Another day I was in Bumrungrad hospital visiting a friend. The guy [straight]  in next bed had the same happen to him but he was horribly beaten up as well.

As for the police laughing at them. Well I was robbed once and when I reported it to the police they just sat me on a bench where I had to wait for an hour. A filthy demented derelict came in raving and not knowing I can speak Thai, they told him to sit next to me and talk to me which he did. The whole police station were in stitches laughing at me. When I spoke Thai they all lost face and threw me out of the station without taking my report. That was at Tungmahamek Station in Suan Plu.

You don't know what you are on about.

42 minutes ago, LammyTS1 said:

Oh I see, and how many potential Buddhist or Christian bomb attacks have been prevented over the past week?
How many Christian & Buddhist terror attacks have prevailed within Germany & Australia recently?
The press can be so right wing as they never print stories about the Klu Klux Klan and their terrorist bombings in Europe & Australia. Why is that? We never hear about the KKK and their worldwide terrorist network killing hundreds of people on a daily basis?



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Oh well, I did my best. Go ahead and keep your all seeing eye shut, but then you won't be able to see all the mass murderers coming who are not Muslim.

11 minutes ago, ALLSEEINGEYE said:

And a belief in a religion that claims to be that of peace while openly hating all that do not agree with their beliefs and condoning the atrocities committed in it's name.

Your "all seeing eye" is shut I think. When Christians were killing each other in Ireland did you brand Christianity a religion of non-peace? Isis is just the Muslim version of Christianity's Klu Klux Klan. Perhaps SOME of the women wear the veil. So What? I was brought up in the Anglican Church and as an altar boy I has to wear a dress. Do you actually know any Muslims or do you just read and listen to all the ultra right creeps spouting their propaganda? They would do the same as Isis is if they could. My doctor is a Muslim as is my pharmacist and one of my close friends. They are all beautiful people. I don't hear you complaining about what the Buddhists are doing to the Muslims in Myanmar. Do you claim Buddhism to be a religion of violence too? Grow up and think for yourself. Nearly all of the violence being perpetrated now by "so called" Muslims is on other Muslims. Use your all seeing eye to discover the truth.

1 hour ago, optad said:

A point to note here is that four of these five are Australian born descendants of Lebanese refugees from the 80's and 90's. Recent arrivals from Iraqi and Syria have other things on their mind. More licentious views should be tempered by this.

 

It principally is a second generation problem of low integration, poor employment prospects, very poor secondary and tertiary education level despite opportunities, and fundamentally preferring some ridiculous romanticised picture as told by their parents because of their own failed expectations.  

 

This group in particular, compare poorly to the Vietnamese and even contemporary Afghani refugees / settlers. They are not all the same. 

I would like to know how you know that 4 of these people were of Lebanese descent. In all that I have read that has not been revealed. Is this just another case of Lebanese bashing that has been occurring in Australia recently???

40 minutes ago, chiang mai said:

 

Not really.

 

Just give us a percentage, that's anonymous enough.

Your question is just a nonsense and you are becoming quite boring. It is not possible for me to know the performance details of any of the doctors or hospitals in Thailand except the ones I have personal experience with or those that my many friends have had. You seem to be quite adamant about defending them and it makes me wonder whether you are one of these appalling doctors yourself or perhaps  a hospital manager. You are obviously denying the experiences of the dozens of people on this forum who have detailed some horrendous experiences. I have lived in Thailand for 12 years and have been the victim of some awful mistakes and malpractices [see my earlier posts in this topic] and many more of my friends here. After living the previous 60 years in Australia and therefore being aware of thousands of medical procedures of countless friends and family there in that time I cannot ever recall any of them experiencing what I alone have here in just 12 years.

Stop being an ostrich and look around yourself. You are endangering peoples lives and health by defending the system here.

If you respond to this post I shall ignore you. You are blind to the truth so there is no point in continuing this debate with you. I guess you don't believe in climate change as well.

13 minutes ago, chiang mai said:

 

No, I didn't think you could.

 

Tell you what, here's a list of medical specialists we compiled a few years ago, tell us which ones are no good or better still, what percentage are no good and see how your answer marries up with your earlier statement.

 

 

You are just dying to see the pants sued off me aren't you.

18 hours ago, chiang mai said:

 

Can you substantiate the absolute crap and nonsense you just wrote?

Well I see that stupid farang like your post. Well his name speaks for both of you.

16 minutes ago, thaipod said:

I've had  bad experiences with BNH. The last one was when my wife took me there after breaking 3 ribs and asked for an x ray and the doctor said I didn't need one and gave me antibiotics and pain killers. When I protested and insisted for a x ray, then the doctor refused to talk to me and had to go through the nurse on duty and the doctor told the nurse the result was no broken ribs.

 

The next day I went to another Hospital and sure enough x ray shows 3 broken ribs. 

I just hope that the Thai medical authorities and the hospitals are reading following this topic.

I am a 73 year old redhead and living in rural Australia as a kid I got sunburn nearly every week. I have been getting sun spots [keratosis] frozen off since I was 40. I had them done here too at Bumrungrad several times before I learned not to go there. Each time I was prescribed antibiotics and topical creams which were as expensive as the procedure and sold to me by the hospital. Home in Oz I was never given them and never suffered for not using them.

Another time I was in Phuket and wanted to stay I bit longer. The airline would not let me change my ticket without paying a huge fee unless I had a medical cert. to say I could not fly. So I went to the hospital and told them I was severely congested both nasally and in my chest. I did not tell them it was just an act to get out of the airline fee. I just said I was sick and I was examined by a doctor and  given my certificate.

In Nan hospital a friend was diagnosed as having macular degeneration. Terrified of blindness he went back to Oz for a check and there was nothing wrong.

Considering my earlier post wherein I said I would not trust a Thai hospital with anything worse than a cold and remembering my Phuket experience I now retract that. I would not trust them with anything at all.

6 minutes ago, scoutman360 said:

I read the horror stories and certainly can't condone them. But my own experience there has been very good. I have always found very good doctors and even had surgery there with 100% recovery.

 

I always remind myself of my own bad experiences in the U.S. One doctor told me to go home and rest when I had strong stomach pains. A week later I was rushed to emergency to have my appendix removed. Bad doctors are everywhere.

Bad doctors are everywhere.  Yes but nowhere so concentrated as in Thai hospitals.

19 minutes ago, abrahamzvi said:

Again, I have to repeat myself, saying that whilst I do not doubt your story, I am more than surprised. As far as my own personal experience is concerned, it contradicts what you are saying.I have been diagnosed and treated correctly and properly in both Bumrungrad and Bangkok Hospitals, as well as years ago in Khon Kaen Ram in Khon Kaen. It can and does happen here in Thailand as well s in other developed countries that doctors misdiagnose ailments, but surely, if the person concerned is doubtful, or if the treatment recommended bring no relief, one should seek a second opinion, also here in Thailand. The same applies to other countries.

Well I will tell you two more stories about BNH Hospital. I had bought myself a set of weights. Suddenly I had a terrible pain in my shoulder. Off to BNH and was told I had a pinched nerve in my neck. Traction every day for one month [cannot remember the cost of each visit]  and was not cured. They referred me to their orthopedic guy who said I needed a 350,000 baht operation. No way - back to Oz and it was a torn rotator cuff.

Then one night I broke a wine glass on the bench which then rolled onto my foot and a shard stabbed me. Blood everywhere so off to BNH [will I ever learn?] where I was told Xrays cannot pick up glass so I was just stitched up [both meanings]  and sent home. 4 days later a piece of glass emerged from the bottom of my foot so back to BNH where another doctor took an Xray and  found several small pieces of glass in there.

If you wish I can relate some bad experiences of some of my mates at BNH and Bumrungrad but I feel that you might be getting bored by now.

9 hours ago, elgenon said:

The doctor charge for my outpatient visit was $30. In America it would be over a hundred. The antibiotics were about a quarter of the price.

Yes, you expect good care in a hospital but this is more. It is caring and kindness and patience and sweetness. If you haven't experienced it you don't know what I am talking about.

The " caring and kindness and patience and sweetness " is just good public relations which any big business trains it's staff about.  They were very sweet to me too while ripping me off and mis-diagnosing my symptoms