Foreigner Challenges Swastika Tattoo at Thai Restaurant

11 minutes ago, Cory1848 said:

You very much implied that white people's culture is better than Black people's culture, especially with all your racist comments elsewhere about how awful Black people are.

@GammaGlobulin probably knows theyre often alright in 1s and 2s but very dangerous in groups.
Very sensible of him too.

3 minutes ago, Tourist2 said:

@GammaGlobulin probably knows theyre often alright in 1s and 2s but very dangerous in groups.
Very sensible of him too.

I do not agree with this statement, either, in any way.

What an absolute F-wit that guy is. The symbol he is so concerned about has been around for a thousand years in India, Japan and Asia before the Nazis commandeered it. Good on the woman for standing up for herself. Have a look at any Japanese map and you will see all their temples marked with that symbol.

Hard to be sure from the video but this looks like a Buddhist symbol to me.

Some people should do a bit more research. Or, here’s a thought - just mind your own damned business.

https://skdesu.com/en/its-nazi-buddhist-meanings/

13 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

:10 second mark on video

That is the mirror image of a swastika.

In East Asia—including China, Japan, Korea, and Vietnam—the counterclockwise version is actually the dominant form used in Buddhism.

• The Footprints of the Buddha: In Buddhist art, the symbol is called manji in Japanese or wàn in Chinese. It is traditionally seen stamped on the chest, hands, or soles of feet of Buddha statues. It represents the Buddha’s footprints, the resignation of the spirit, and the concepts of infinity, abundance, and eternal life.

• Map Markers: If you open a map of Tokyo or Seoul today, you will see the counterclockwise symbol used everywhere as the official geographic map icon to indicate the location of a Buddhist temple.

• Reclaiming the Image: Because the Nazi party exclusively used a right-facing, 45-degree tilted version, East Asian Buddhist communities heavily prefer the flat, left-facing version to clearly distinguish their ancient religious symbol from modern Western political hate.

12 hours ago, impulse said:

My favorite was a big burly biker in China wearing a beautiful black leather jacket with a huge "Kotex" logo. In pink.

Perhaps the jacket was a period piece.

1 hour ago, Bday Prang said:

So calling out bad behaviour is racist when the guilty party is black ? Had he been white and British it would be fine I see nothing "vile " in this thread except the black guys behavior towards the Thai woman in the video, long with a few lame attempts to either justify or mitigate it by some

Why do racists spend so much time arguing that things they say and do aren't racist? - there is stupid, stupider and then racist.

1 hour ago, Bday Prang said:

I'm sure its fascinating , and If you give me your account number I will send you 10 baht. you can then use a phone box at no expense to yourself and make a call to somebody ,somewhere, who actually gives a damn, I can assure you i don't

No need. You cared enough to read my comment, reply to it twice, and then announce how little you care.

People who genuinely don't give a damn usually demonstrate it by scrolling past, not by investing time trying to convince everyone else they don't.

Thanks for proving the point. - and BTW - it doesn't cover your embarrassment either.

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Much sadder that vile western racists walk among us here.

got it. all cultures are equal and its racist not to think so. typical hater pap,

3 hours ago, jts-khorat said:

Indeed, it is derived from the same Pali/Sanskrit root, meaning "you (will be) good".

Interestingly, Sawasdee is not actually a very old form of greeting in Thailand, it was artificially created by the nationalist Phibum government.

Thailandtravel guides

To this day, the main greeting in Isaan for example is, "have you eaten yet?" (gin khaow bor?), which is the older, historical way of greeting in Thailand.

Thanks. The Isarn greeting is similar to a Chinese one.

6 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

"I noticed that in school there is no awareness of what a swastika stands for..."

Do you have any awareness of the tattoo in question, there doesn't seem to be a picture of it? Did she have a Nazi swastika?

To be fair, you can see it if you freeze the video at ca 10 seconds. It's left facing, so it's a religious, not a Nazi Swastika.

Off topic deflection posts and replies about WW2, Hitler, and the Holocaust have been removed.

Interestingly, the hooks on the symbol on the famous Elephant Gate at Carlsberg Breweries in Copenhagen turn right like a Nazi Swastika. However, the symbol isn't angled at 45 degrees like a Nazi swastika and the statue was built in 1901, well before the rise of Nazism, so it isn't connected to Nazism.

From the screen grab of the girl's ankle, her tattoo is left facing, so technically not a Nazi swastika.

It's confusing, but as I understand it, to tell the religious and Nazi symbols apart:

Right-Facing Swastika 卐

This is the true swastika.

Symbolizes the sun, luck, and good energy.

Commonly used by Hindus and Jains to welcome wealth.

Left-Facing Swastika 卍

Turns to the left (counterclockwise).

Called a sauwastika.

Symbolizes the night, magic, and the goddess Kali.

Also used in Buddhism to show the footprints of Buddha.

Nazi Swastika:

Right facing and tilted at 45 degrees.

How to tell the religious symbols apart from the Nazi symbol:

In the West, both religious versions of the symbol are often conflated with the Hakenkreuz (hooked cross), which was adopted by the Nazi Party in the early 20th century. However, as stated, the Nazis used a right-facing, 45 degree tilted version of the symbol.

4 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

That is not the point . I am probably wrong ,but I like to think that the members of this forum would not go around verbally attacking Thai women for whatever tattoos they may have Regardless of what they may feel

The quote that you show was not written by me

Concerning the choice of the symbol in question, on the Nazi Flag...

Why not just get the truth straight from the HORSE's Mouth, meaning passages in Mein Kampf:

"The question of the new flag, i.e. of its appearance, occupied our minds a great deal at that time. Proposals came from all sides, though they were mostly more well-intended than acceptable. For the new flag had both to be a symbol of our own battle and to have a striking poster-like effect. Anyone who has had to concern himself much with the masses will realize that these apparent trifles are actually very important matters. An effective badge may give the first impulse toward an interest in a movement in hundreds of thousands of cases.

For this reason we had to decline the suggestion of a white flag, made in many quarters, which would have identified our movement with the old State, or rather with those feeble parties whose sole political aim is the restoration of vanished conditions. Besides, white is not a compelling color. It is suitable for chaste societies of maidens, but not for insurgent movements in a revolutionary age.

Black was also proposed. In itself it was fitting for the present day, but there was almost no way of deducing from it any suggestion of our movement’s intent. And finally this color is not compelling enough either.

Blue and white was out of the question, despite its wonderful aesthetic effect, as the color of one German State [Bavaria] and of a political attitude of narrow particularism whose reputation unfortunately was not of the best. Here too, furthermore, it would have been hard to find any indication of our movement. The same was true of black and white.

Black, red and gold was out of the question in itself.

So was black-white-red, for reasons which have been mentioned—at least in the accustomed form. In effectiveness, however, this color combination stands far above all others. It is the most radiant harmony there is.

I myself always retaining the old colors, not only because they are the most sacred thing to me as a soldier, but because their artistic effect appeals far more than any other to my aesthetic sense. Nevertheless I had to decline without exception all the countless sketches that came in from the members of the young movement, most of them incorporating the swastika into the old flag. I myself, as Leader, did not want to appear immediately before the public with my own design, since it was quite possible that someone else might produce one equally good, perhaps even better. And in fact a dentist from Starnberg brought in a design that was not at all bad; it was a good deal like mine, but had the one fault that the swastika was fitted into a white circle by means of curved ends.

Meanwhile I myself, after endless attempts, had laid down a final form: a flag with a red ground, bearing a white disk with a black swastika in its center. After many experiments I also established a definite relation between the size of the flag and the size of the white disk, as well as the shape and weight of the swastika."

https://dn790000.ca.archive.org/0/items/mein-kampf-by-adolf-hitler-ralph-manheim-translation/Mein%20Kampf%20by%20Adolf%20Hitler%20-%20Ralph%20Manheim%20Translation.pdf?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

This is the Manheim translation, and link to it.

We read Mein Kamph in HS, of course, but I forgot all but that Hitler was descended from a long line of paperhangers, some having only one arm.

17 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Concerning the choice of the symbol in question, on the Nazi Flag...

Why not just get the truth straight from the HORSE's Mouth, meaning passages in Mein Kampf:

"The question of the new flag, i.e. of its appearance, occupied our minds a great deal at that time. Proposals came from all sides, though they were mostly more well-intended than acceptable. For the new flag had both to be a symbol of our own battle and to have a striking poster-like effect. Anyone who has had to concern himself much with the masses will realize that these apparent trifles are actually very important matters. An effective badge may give the first impulse toward an interest in a movement in hundreds of thousands of cases.

For this reason we had to decline the suggestion of a white flag, made in many quarters, which would have identified our movement with the old State, or rather with those feeble parties whose sole political aim is the restoration of vanished conditions. Besides, white is not a compelling color. It is suitable for chaste societies of maidens, but not for insurgent movements in a revolutionary age.

Black was also proposed. In itself it was fitting for the present day, but there was almost no way of deducing from it any suggestion of our movement’s intent. And finally this color is not compelling enough either.

Blue and white was out of the question, despite its wonderful aesthetic effect, as the color of one German State [Bavaria] and of a political attitude of narrow particularism whose reputation unfortunately was not of the best. Here too, furthermore, it would have been hard to find any indication of our movement. The same was true of black and white.

Black, red and gold was out of the question in itself.

So was black-white-red, for reasons which have been mentioned—at least in the accustomed form. In effectiveness, however, this color combination stands far above all others. It is the most radiant harmony there is.

I myself always retaining the old colors, not only because they are the most sacred thing to me as a soldier, but because their artistic effect appeals far more than any other to my aesthetic sense. Nevertheless I had to decline without exception all the countless sketches that came in from the members of the young movement, most of them incorporating the swastika into the old flag. I myself, as Leader, did not want to appear immediately before the public with my own design, since it was quite possible that someone else might produce one equally good, perhaps even better. And in fact a dentist from Starnberg brought in a design that was not at all bad; it was a good deal like mine, but had the one fault that the swastika was fitted into a white circle by means of curved ends.

Meanwhile I myself, after endless attempts, had laid down a final form: a flag with a red ground, bearing a white disk with a black swastika in its center. After many experiments I also established a definite relation between the size of the flag and the size of the white disk, as well as the shape and weight of the swastika."

https://dn790000.ca.archive.org/0/items/mein-kampf-by-adolf-hitler-ralph-manheim-translation/Mein%20Kampf%20by%20Adolf%20Hitler%20-%20Ralph%20Manheim%20Translation.pdf?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

This is the Manheim translation, and link to it.

We read Mein Kamph in HS, of course, but I forgot all but that Hitler was descended from a long line of paperhangers, some having only one arm.

Concerning, exactly, the symbolic meaning of the symbol in question, The Paperhanger Wrote the following:

"And this is truly a symbol. Not only because our respect for the past is attested by each color, passionately loved by us all, which called forth so much honor from the German people, but it was also the best embodiment of the desires of the people of the movement. As National-Socialists we see our program in our flag. In the red we see the social ideas of the movement; in the white, the nationalistic; in the swastika the mission of the fight for the victory of the Aryan man, and with it, simultaneously the victory of creating work, which in itself was anti-semitic, and will be anti-semitic eternally. Two years later, when out of regulator troops a great many thousand men had become an elaborate Storm Detachment, it seemed necessary to give this defense organization of the young world-concept a special symbol of victory: the Standard. I sketched it myself, and gave it to the master goldsmith, Gahr, to execute."

But, what did his mustache symbolize, is what I would like to know.

44 minutes ago, placnx said:

The quote that you show was not written by me

apologies you are correct but no harm done eh ? I don't think anything was said that reflected negatively on you

It was a quote from a quote if you know what i mean

6 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

Anybody here familiar with the Thai concept of face will , like me , be surprised at the womans restraint I can only imagine how she felt I bet his "partner" was wishing for a sinkhole to swallow him up too.

That obnoxious idiot needs to consider himself very lucky that the exchange took place inside a relatively secluded restaurant,

had it occurred outside and caught the eye of a few local good ol boys he might well have received a well earned 5 onto 1 Thai style Whoopin

We all know you love violence if you're nowhere near it! I would not start an argument, just politely tell them why it's offensive. That won't earn a beatdown from anybody. Angry foreigners are a meme. You never get your way if you get angry...anywhere.

1 hour ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Concerning the choice of the symbol in question, on the Nazi Flag...

Why not just get the truth straight from the HORSE's Mouth, meaning passages in Mein Kampf:

"The question of the new flag, i.e. of its appearance, occupied our minds a great deal at that time. Proposals came from all sides, though they were mostly more well-intended than acceptable. For the new flag had both to be a symbol of our own battle and to have a striking poster-like effect. Anyone who has had to concern himself much with the masses will realize that these apparent trifles are actually very important matters. An effective badge may give the first impulse toward an interest in a movement in hundreds of thousands of cases.

For this reason we had to decline the suggestion of a white flag, made in many quarters, which would have identified our movement with the old State, or rather with those feeble parties whose sole political aim is the restoration of vanished conditions. Besides, white is not a compelling color. It is suitable for chaste societies of maidens, but not for insurgent movements in a revolutionary age.

Black was also proposed. In itself it was fitting for the present day, but there was almost no way of deducing from it any suggestion of our movement’s intent. And finally this color is not compelling enough either.

Blue and white was out of the question, despite its wonderful aesthetic effect, as the color of one German State [Bavaria] and of a political attitude of narrow particularism whose reputation unfortunately was not of the best. Here too, furthermore, it would have been hard to find any indication of our movement. The same was true of black and white.

Black, red and gold was out of the question in itself.

So was black-white-red, for reasons which have been mentioned—at least in the accustomed form. In effectiveness, however, this color combination stands far above all others. It is the most radiant harmony there is.

I myself always retaining the old colors, not only because they are the most sacred thing to me as a soldier, but because their artistic effect appeals far more than any other to my aesthetic sense. Nevertheless I had to decline without exception all the countless sketches that came in from the members of the young movement, most of them incorporating the swastika into the old flag. I myself, as Leader, did not want to appear immediately before the public with my own design, since it was quite possible that someone else might produce one equally good, perhaps even better. And in fact a dentist from Starnberg brought in a design that was not at all bad; it was a good deal like mine, but had the one fault that the swastika was fitted into a white circle by means of curved ends.

Meanwhile I myself, after endless attempts, had laid down a final form: a flag with a red ground, bearing a white disk with a black swastika in its center. After many experiments I also established a definite relation between the size of the flag and the size of the white disk, as well as the shape and weight of the swastika."

https://dn790000.ca.archive.org/0/items/mein-kampf-by-adolf-hitler-ralph-manheim-translation/Mein%20Kampf%20by%20Adolf%20Hitler%20-%20Ralph%20Manheim%20Translation.pdf?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

This is the Manheim translation, and link to it.

We read Mein Kamph in HS, of course, but I forgot all but that Hitler was descended from a long line of paperhangers, some having only one arm.

You went to a fascist HS, Gam?

2 hours ago, Yagoda said:

got it. all cultures are equal and its racist not to think so. typical hater pap,

Okay, Yag, make us a list. Good cultures on the left, bad cultures on the right. No need to define why. It will promote good discussion here.

3 hours ago, placnx said:

To this day, the main greeting in Isaan for example is, "have you eaten yet?" (gin khaow bor?), which is the older, historical way of greeting in Thailand.

I thought that was the morning greeting by Nigerian romance scammers to their marks.

You know? The octogenarian adipose marks who think they're dating Paul McCartney or Taylor Swift on the Internet.

18 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

I noticed that in school there is no awareness of what a swastika stands for

Frankly, why would it?

Because, weirdly, I heard nothing about the differences between Theravada, Boran Kamatthana, the esoteric Hindu-Buddhist blends of maritime Southeast Asia and Cambodia and the still closely related Mahayana beliefs from neighboring Vietnam, who all have their own iconography, during my own school education... just as an example.

Naively, I believed that the statue of the Buddha is the actual main pictoral reference, while it is actually just one of newer historical times (before it was footprints, stupas, etc) -- and even where it is, how many of us can differentiate between Siddharta (in its many different postures), Avalokiteshvara or Maitreya, just based on their specific markings? How many can differentiate between Mae Thorani, Nang Kwak, Mae Phosop, central elements of folk belief in Thailand? How many know what iconography is related to the Thai-Brahmanic forms of Phra Prom, Phra Ram or Phra In?

Makes you wonder, just because we come from a Western society, many of us think we are quite automatically educated, when in truth the knowledge blind spots many of us have, are gaping holes -- even after living right here in Thailand for years or decades -- make so many Westerners give the impression of being close to naive (and all-too-often even analphabetic) ignorants.

5 hours ago, nexus7 said:

Interestingly, the hooks on the symbol on the famous Elephant Gate at Carlsberg Breweries in Copenhagen turn right like a Nazi Swastika. However, the symbol isn't angled at 45 degrees like a Nazi swastika and the statue was built in 1901, well before the rise of Nazism, so it isn't connected to Nazism.

From the screen grab of the girl's ankle, her tattoo is left facing, so technically not a Nazi swastika.

It's confusing, but as I understand it, to tell the religious and Nazi symbols apart:

Right-Facing Swastika 卐

This is the true swastika.

Symbolizes the sun, luck, and good energy.

Commonly used by Hindus and Jains to welcome wealth.

Left-Facing Swastika 卍

Turns to the left (counterclockwise).

Called a sauwastika.

Symbolizes the night, magic, and the goddess Kali.

Also used in Buddhism to show the footprints of Buddha.

Nazi Swastika:

Right facing and tilted at 45 degrees.

How to tell the religious symbols apart from the Nazi symbol:

In the West, both religious versions of the symbol are often conflated with the Hakenkreuz (hooked cross), which was adopted by the Nazi Party in the early 20th century. However, as stated, the Nazis used a right-facing, 45 degree tilted version of the symbol.

There are plenty of examples of tilted Swastikas in archeology. A tilted Swastika is not some special "German" version of it. Hitler and educated Germans of the time were completely aware of the Swastika and its history and simply adopted it in to their iconography for symbolic reasons. I'm sure you can even find tilted version is Thailand, though they'd almost certainly be left facing as historically that style predominated in Eastern Asia while right facing predominated in India and parts West.

These falants-tourists-foreigners comming into Thailand with their sunday sermon's of their morals are just so hateful.

2 hours ago, BoganBob said:

There are plenty of examples of tilted Swastikas in archeology. A tilted Swastika is not some special "German" version of it. Hitler and educated Germans of the time were completely aware of the Swastika and its history and simply adopted it in to their iconography for symbolic reasons. I'm sure you can even find tilted version is Thailand, though they'd almost certainly be left facing as historically that style predominated in Eastern Asia while right facing predominated in India and parts West.

Crazy that a small minority can make such a big kerfuffle over a symbol isn;t it?

Mind you, HOllywood has made about a million anti-Nazi films but zero against Lenin, Mao, or Stalin - people who made the Hitler his crew look like absolute amateurs in terms of numbers of deaths caused.
I guess some victims are seen as more special than others right? Any ideas why?

We also never have this fuss over a hammer and sickle do we?
Does anyone know why?
Is it just brainwashing via Hollywood and media or something else?

21 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Why would anyone, idiot or otherwise, seek to damage someone else's property?

People in the Uk. have their cars damaged for being SUV's or diesel powered. In the USA pictures posted on streets are defaced because it does not suit the ideology of some one else. When some one will argue with a young woman over a tattoo there are people who will deface images they dislike.

On 7/1/2026 at 6:23 AM, Jingthing said:

I didn't see the actual tattoo pictured. Did I miss it somehow? So assuming you didn't either, how do you know if this particular tattoo is not a Nazi one? You seem to assume it isn't without knowing.

Agreed.

Let’s see the evidence before reaching for the explanation.

On 7/1/2026 at 8:30 AM, Evil Penevil said:

The Asian swastika and the Nazi hakenkruez (hooked cross) aren't the same symbol

. .

Most people don't know that Hitler and the Nazis never referred to their symbol as a swastika. They always called it a hakenkruez.

It's totally wrong for any foreigner to call out a Thai for a tattoo of the Asian swastika, which is an ancient symbol of peace and prosperity.

Hakenkruez translates to hooked cross as noted above. Hitler did indeed adapt it from the eastern religions, but was careful to slant it... as noting forward looking/thinking momentum for his progressive "new society" the National Socialist Workers Party.

18 hours ago, ZigM said:

Lucky he wasn't called a "khon dam" or even a "farang dam". That would have really set him off.

Watchout, there is one poster who is the Thai language aficionado who might come down on you for incorrect Thai.

15 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

How do you know 😂. A friend of your's?

Aren't you one of the human race? Or an Alien 👾?

In the top 5 for stupidest posts of the year.

Your award? A durian juice enema.