Trump undermines U.S. birth control coverage requirement

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10 hours ago, OMGImInPattaya said:

That's more like it...an actual argument. I still don't think it's a public good to subsidize other people's fertility but that can be settled in the political marketplace.

 

The issue of birth control, as well as drugs for erectile dysfunction (remember how much the military pays for such drugs as Viagra) and drugs for the mentally ill  are all public health issues.   Birth control and family planning is prescribed for people who will suffer medical problems as a result of becoming pregnant.   

 

Birth control pills are frequently used to assist women in controlling medical problems with their menstrual cycle, extremely heavy bleeding and other issues related directly to a medical situation.   

 

 

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9 hours ago, Credo said:

The issue of birth control, as well as drugs for erectile dysfunction (remember how much the military pays for such drugs as Viagra) and drugs for the mentally ill  are all public health issues.   Birth control and family planning is prescribed for people who will suffer medical problems as a result of becoming pregnant.   

 

Birth control pills are frequently used to assist women in controlling medical problems with their menstrual cycle, extremely heavy bleeding and other issues related directly to a medical situation.   

 

 

If hormonal birth control pills are used to treat a medical condition, I have no problem with them being covered by private or public health insurance schemes. However, pregnancy isn't a disease or medical condition so I would not support government funding of birth control to prevent conception.

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20 hours ago, Golgota said:

Obviously you never saw how teenagers manage fertility decisions.. Foster kids, poor kids with no parental supervisions and other things of the same kind cost much more money to the taxpayers than contraception 

So in your world morality and what's right and wrong don't mean anything...only costs. And besides, the cost of a month's worth of BC pills is very inexpensive...probably a fifth of the average teenagers monthly phone bill.

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4 minutes ago, OMGImInPattaya said:

If hormonal birth control pills are used to treat a medical condition, I have no problem with them being covered by private or public health insurance schemes. However, pregnancy isn't a disease or medical condition so I would not support government funding of birth control to prevent conception.

So, now doctors get to do some more paperwork, to fulfill some nonsensical requirement for other peoples moral proclivities.   It is a doctor who decides, just like they do with Viagra.   

 

It's a medical issue, not a moral one and you and the President should not be in a position to decide.   

 

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22 minutes ago, Credo said:

So, now doctors get to do some more paperwork, to fulfill some nonsensical requirement for other peoples moral proclivities.   It is a doctor who decides, just like they do with Viagra.   

 

It's a medical issue, not a moral one and you and the President should not be in a position to decide.   

 

I'm confused why you can't fathom the difference between a medical condition, which is something that should be treated and covered and the choice of whether to become pregnant, which is a private personal decision and not a disease or illness. I have no moral concern on way or the other on women's fertility choices...only that I don't feel it is a government role to subsidise one side of that scale or the other. Exactly, neither I nor Donald want anything to do with the decision nor do we want to pay for it.

 

As to your Viagra example, it's a drug used to treat a medical condition, to wit Erectile Disfunction and I already said I had no problem with subsidies to treat genuine medical conditions.

Edited October 9, 2017 by OMGImInPattaya

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Well, I for one, don't really want to pay for your erection.  

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5 hours ago, OMGImInPattaya said:

So in your world morality and what's right and wrong don't mean anything...only costs. And besides, the cost of a month's worth of BC pills is very inexpensive...probably a fifth of the average teenagers monthly phone bill.

What's the moral question here?