candoman89 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 So I extended my 60 day tourist visa to 90 days and it ends on 2 Dec. Want to change it to Non-O (retirement) at Chaeng Wattana. Assuming it gets changed do I get to stay longer (i.e. an additional 30 days or something). My money (800,000 Baht) wont have been seasoned long enough (was deposited on 17 October) so it doesn't even meet the 60 day requirement. Do I have to leave and come back again for the seasonoing period? Also, for the Non-O (retirement) do they still require a police check? I have lived in Thailand (non-B with extensions) for 18 years with a 3 year stint in HK. Thanks for any input. Cheers. Cando. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackThompson Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Since you are using Chang Wattana in Bangkok, you should be able to do a "Conversion" to a Non-O. I would start this as soon as possible, as you can only begin this process while you have 15-days remaining on your current "permission of stay" - so you have time to deal with anything unexpected. The conversion gives you 90-days from the date you apply, so you would not have to leave the country if it is granted. You don't need the money seasoned for a conversion at Chang Wattana or other lawful offices (some others make up their own laws). No police-check is needed for retirement-extensions in-country - only at some consulates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candoman89 Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 Great news. Thank you very much. I new about the "must do it with 15 days remaining thing" but wasn't sure how that would affect my length of stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 You don't need the money seasoned for a conversion at Chang Wattana or other lawful offices (some others make up their own laws). Why don't you need the money seasoned (60 days)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phuket Man Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 34 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said: Why don't you need the money seasoned (60 days)? Because you do not. Only for a 12 month extension application do you need the 60 days rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buick Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said: Why don't you need the money seasoned (60 days)? they seem to place more importance on a permission to stay for one year than the 90 day stay you get with the non imm O. Edited November 10, 2017 by buick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 10 hours ago, candoman89 said: My money (800,000 Baht) wont have been seasoned long enough (was deposited on 17 October) so it doesn't even meet the 60 day requirement. As said the 800k baht only has to be in the bank on the date you apply. When you apply for the visa you will need a letter from the bank confirming the money came from abroad. Requirements are here to apply for a change of visa status is here. https://www.immigration.go.th/content/service_80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattd Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 As I understand it, the OP will need to prove that the 800,000 Baht came from overseas or from legitimate work in Thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bttao Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 3 hours ago, candoman89 said: Great news. Thank you very much. I new about the "must do it with 15 days remaining thing" but wasn't sure how that would affect my length of stay. Do you mind sharing how you got the extension to 90 days... did they ask for any document? I am planning on doing the same : 60 day- Tourist TR Single entry and Bangkok. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 15 minutes ago, bttao said: Do you mind sharing how you got the extension to 90 days... did they ask for any document? I am planning on doing the same : 60 day- Tourist TR Single entry and Bangkok. You can extend your 60 day entry for 30 days without a problem. You will need a completed TM7 form with a 4 X 6 cm photo attached. Copies of your passport photo page, visa, entry stamp and TM6 departure card. The fee is 1900 baht. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bttao Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 41 minutes ago, ubonjoe said: You can extend your 60 day entry for 30 days without a problem. You will need a completed TM7 form with a 4 X 6 cm photo attached. Copies of your passport photo page, visa, entry stamp and TM6 departure card. The fee is 1900 baht. Thanks ubonjoe... that's what I needed. I still have an issue with the out of Thailand ticket: I was planning on buying an AirAsia (BKK to KL outbound ticket for 1000 baht/$30 )) to satisfy the honorary consulate in Miami and then discard it... but I saw that a fare by train/bus cost a lot less if I can buy one here from the US (again to show the Miami office and discard). I really appreciate it if anybody knows such a place where i can order it from... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 7 minutes ago, bttao said: I really appreciate it if anybody knows such a place where i can order it from... Try: https://12go.asia/en Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackThompson Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 6 hours ago, scubascuba3 said: 14 hours ago, JackThompson said: You don't need the money seasoned for a conversion at Chang Wattana or other lawful offices (some others make up their own laws). Why don't you need the money seasoned (60 days)? I was referring to a "Conversion" to a Non-O. This is issued to those who are just beginning the process, and would not have had time to season the money without extensions, border-bounces, etc. At the end of that 90-days, when applying for the 1-year extension, the applicant has had time to season the money for at least 60-days. Thankfully for those using Chang Wattana, they follow this official policy. As to the other offices who ask for seasoning, deny the use of embassy income-statements, etc - these "additional requirements" directly circumvent the purpose of Non-O conversions. It appears they are trying to avoid doing their job and/or to drive people to agents. Hopefully, these unlawful denials of conversions at some offices will be investigated - at least to the point where all applicants have a legitimate path to apply for a Non-O conversion at all immigration offices. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackThompson Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 3 hours ago, Mattd said: As I understand it, the OP will need to prove that the 800,000 Baht came from overseas or from legitimate work in Thailand? Yes - see here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattd Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Just now, JackThompson said: Yes - see here: Roger that, I was also making sure that the OP was aware of this requirement and is compliant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candoman89 Posted November 10, 2017 Author Share Posted November 10, 2017 Thanks to all for your assistance. Cando Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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