13 hours ago, Cadbury said:

What a disgraceful admission of the administrative incompetence of the Thai government. Presumably many of these would have arrived over the past 4 years.

Maybe the problems associated with visa renewal might have something to do with it.

Just alone the time and mind draining inconvenience, travel expenses, having to put up with bad tempered, inflexible, deliberately unhelpful and inept immigration officers plus the loopy laws related to the different visas would be enough to deter anyone from bothering to renew their visa. But that wouldn't occur to them. 

agreed; that, however, would require introspection, a gene which thais do not possess

Get them foreign scum,  tarnishing the good name of Thailand.

We want you out, now. and leave your wallets at the airport as well,  scum bags.

 

Thailand needs a back to Back to basics crackdown now.

Killing people on the roads,  beating kids up in the class room, 

and looking down there noses at the poor people of there country .

Also ripping each other off at any and every opportunity. 

 

Ps,  If they arrested and jailed the bad guy Thai's,  most of the so called problem would go away. 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 13, 20178 yr by stanleycoin

Following their discovery?  Goodness.  Any basic database should be easily to return a query or query results, differencing todays date with the date of their visa entry.  Even if they used Excel spreadsheets it is not hard to find things such as that. 

23 minutes ago, YetAnother said:

agreed; that, however, would require introspection, a gene which thais do not possess

Inspection, operations and maintenance.  They just don't do it.  They start something and that's it.  Absolutely horrid follow up.

 

   Some of the inspection and maintenance reporting may be a social thing.  Thais don't want to or are afraid of ratting somebody out that did a bad job, especially if they are senior to them, in some of the ways that Thais measure seniority or status.   They keep quiet, stay in line, etc. 

 

  Heck I am the test and evaluation world, and over the years in the defense and aerospace industry a lot of developers in software and systems did not like my results.  Tuff.  I write it up, provide the test results inputs and outputs and let management arbitrate.  Cost me a job or two here and there, but it also allowed me to stay on mission and flight critical programs because they knew I wasn't going to white wash anything.  Now, just over 1 year to retirement.

 

  One thing that seems to be done very well is all the cleaning staff at just about every hotel I have stayed at.  They are there the next day and do a very good job.  Put those housekeepers on the task!

Edited November 13, 20178 yr by gk10002000

14 hours ago, Rc2702 said:

If they were serious about over stayers they would publish a list of names and faces.

It would be my guess that they could never get 100,000 names of 'tourists' to make the list never mind publishing it.

 

Perhaps if they added workers from surrounding countries they might get close to it.

Tarnishing the image of foreigners is a Thai sport......just an attempt to take the attention off how bad crime is increasing amongst Thai people and how unsafe it is becoming for tourists.

The country is far too weak allowing too many from countries to arrive “visa on arrival “ and then punishment is pathetic when it comes to overstay! These criminals know this! Why do you think they go to Thailand in the first place. random passport checks everywhere, suits me fine !


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16 hours ago, rooster59 said:

It is feared that some of these people are committing crimes and damaging Thailand’s image.

 

Really, and what about others who do this on a daily basis?

Edited November 13, 20178 yr by cms22

Why don't the police target the Thai drivers who kill over 60 people a day?

16 hours ago, rooster59 said:

Prawit also urged the Royal Thai Police to check on incoming and outgoing visitors and implement greater measures to control, monitor and act against those who have overstayed. 

Yeah right, the criminals are really going to turn up for a 90 day report !

16 hours ago, dcnx said:

Well done. Foreign criminals shouldn’t take money from local criminals.

Damn straight!   Let's keep "Good criminals in, bad criminals out!"

I wish he come to Sweden and help police there to crackdown targeting foreign criminals.  

So , it is only the criminals with overstay......all the other criminals,who pay to an office to fix their visa's are excluded.............

So it's a crackdown on people they dont know , because they are not registered in the system...........goodluck with the ghosthunting ?

So it,s OK to be engaged in criminal activities as long as the crooks are not overstayed ?

12 hours ago, Cadbury said:

Every statistic in government Thailand is fabricated. Especially those produced by the Department of Tourism and the GDP growth figures.

 

 

 

How do you know that? Do you have independent figures from several reliable sources which corroborate and all disagree with the official Thai government figures?

 

Or are you just reporting another urban myth reliant on the bar stool bridge brigade's academy?

I have cracked up with crack downs now looking for new crack to crack up and down.

Looks like days are numbered guys enjoy whats left as I feel we are next as they cannot stand any competition even when you pop down the beach and clean up for them or divert pensions here

What about nana area its full of overstaying arabs and many criminals !?

15 hours ago, Cadbury said:

What a disgraceful admission of the administrative incompetence of the Thai government. Presumably many of these would have arrived over the past 4 years.

Maybe the problems associated with visa renewal might have something to do with it.

Just alone the time and mind draining inconvenience, travel expenses, having to put up with bad tempered, inflexible, deliberately unhelpful and inept immigration officers plus the loopy laws related to the different visas would be enough to deter anyone from bothering to renew their visa. But that wouldn't occur to them. 

It's just another form of denial.

15 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

"Good guys in, (100,000) Bad guys out !

Well so far 300 Down - still 99700 to og and in the meantime another some thousands will be added to the overstay list - seems to be a similar challenge as to catch a waterfall with a few broken buckets...

16 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

"Good guys in, (100,000) Bad guys out !

They've already tried that!  It's bad guys in, and give more grief to the good guys.

And would the deputy prime minister kindly like to break down the 100000 illegal foreigners into nationalities, as I would be interested to know from which countries the majority of illegal foreigners originate from.

 

Foreign criminals could not operate in Thailand without the cooperation of Thai nationals, therefore the Thai collaborators are the worse criminals of the bunch. So will the government also be clamping down hard on these Thai partners in crime or will it be only the foreigners who will face the full wrath of the law? 

 

All this means to me is having more hurdles to jump over and tougher rules for the majority of law abiding foreigners that wish to reside in Thailand. We will all fall under the umbrella of being suspected criminals. Thank you bad guys - not.

17 hours ago, wgdanson said:

Prawit also urged officers not to get involved with or seek illegal benefits from these people. LOLOLOL

Would it not be more correct to ORDER instead of "urged" ???

Crackdown on all those illegals.. do not limit it to just Black Eagles .. there are homeless and clueless birds of many species flocking together here.. many such can found be found in far off islands and Chiangmai.. I wonder if 25% of the so called teachers in Chiangmai have proper work permits and visas.. al those tourists with shorts and a backpack are the ones who live off of Thailand's resources.. they are pests and not contributors.. they act as  teachers and even volunteers to fund their extended holidays.. send all of them packing.limit and if possible  stop extensions then we can see the real tourists.. 

22 minutes ago, cyberfarang said:

And would the deputy prime minister kindly like to break down the 100000 illegal foreigners into nationalities, as I would be interested to know from which countries the majority of illegal foreigners originate from.

This of course would make interesting reading......................

 

I am still confused that with this alleged figure of 100,000 people on overstay and the recent focused raids that have been going on, the number of people detained for overstay and alleged crimes is so low. This in itself, given the figures that were released, IMO, shows the inefficiency of the Immigration Investigation Branch.

 

And for clarity, I do feel sorry for the immigration branch, controlling visitors to one's country, both legal and illegal is a nightmare for any country reliant on tourism boosting the economy.  

paying criminals in

non paying criminals out

Let's see (Officials have so far gathered evidence against and arrested 300 such criminals thanks to the crackdown and public assistance) and then there is the ( discovery that nearly 100,000 foreigners were overstaying their visas in Thailand.) sooo at that rate it will take how long to deport the 100,000 foreigners?

17 hours ago, Cadbury said:

What a disgraceful admission of the administrative incompetence of the Thai government. Presumably many of these would have arrived over the past 4 years.

Maybe the problems associated with visa renewal might have something to do with it.

Just alone the time and mind draining inconvenience, travel expenses, having to put up with bad tempered, inflexible, deliberately unhelpful and inept immigration officers plus the loopy laws related to the different visas would be enough to deter anyone from bothering to renew their visa. But that wouldn't occur to them. 

"having to put up with bad tempered, inflexible, deliberately unhelpful and inept immigration officers" You are writing absolute rubbish and it is probably your own behaviour and attitude which causes your perceived problems with immigration staff. I have lived here and have been obtaining extensions of stay for 15 years and have yet to come across any immigration officers behaving the way you describe. Provided you produce the required paperwork etc. and treat Immigration staff with respect you will receive the same in return.

Scoring popularist brownie points,  and flaming nationalist sentiments ahead of elections ?

I would have thought Sir that you should be cracking down on ALL criminals or have I missed something ?