Progress in Brexit talks has lessened chance of disorderly exit - Reuters poll

[Khun Han]

5 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said:

In a way, you're right. I should have written aggregate of exports and imports. That said, it's really simple to get these figures and show that it's you who is writing the nonsense. 

First set of figures is imports.

The second set is exports

I'll leave you to do the arithmetic  Although it's clear you're severely challenged in that department.

Imports

	Value	Year
Germany	$87.60B	2016
China	$59.60B	2016
United States	$57.13B	2016
Netherlands	$46.85B	2016
France	$35.78B	2016
Belgium	$31.71B	2016
Switzerland	$26.61B	2016
Italy	$24.21B	2016
Spain	$21.74B	2016
Ireland	$18.15B	2016
Norway	$17.28B	2016
Canada	$13.44B	2016
Japan	$13.00B	2016
Poland	$12.44B	2016
Turkey	$12.21B	2016
South Africa	$9.79B	2016
India	$8.60B	2016
Sweden	$8.51B	2016
Hong Kong	$7.62B	2016
Czech Republic	$7.27B	2016
Australia	$7.05B	2016
South Korea	$5.95B	2016
Denmark	$5.32B	2016
Russia	$5.27B	2016
Vietnam	$5.08B	2016

 

 

Exports:

	Value	Year
United States	$62.33B	2016
Germany	$44.24B	2016
France	$26.49B	2016
Netherlands	$25.80B	2016
Ireland	$23.15B	2016
Switzerland	$20.02B	2016
China	$18.37B	2016
Belgium	$15.89B	2016
Italy	$13.23B	2016
Spain	$13.12B	2016
United Arab Emirates	$9.23B	2016
Hong Kong	$9.12B	2016
Saudi Arabia	$6.70B	2016
Japan	$6.48B	2016
Canada	$6.30B	2016
Singapore	$6.26B	2016
Turkey	$6.25B	2016
Sweden	$6.23B	2016
South Korea	$6.04B	2016
Poland	$5.74B	2016
Australia	$5.37B	2016
India	$4.48B	2016
Norway	$4.19B	2016
Russia	$3.52B	2016
Denmark	$3.40B	2016

 

 

 

 

Thankyou for confirming why the UK needs to free itself from the EU's economic straitjacket. I assume you can provide evidence that the figures will get better if we stay in the EU?

[SheungWan]

1 hour ago, Khun Han said:

No, you're a dressmaker.

I am intrigued as to why anybody would regard dressmaking or indeed any aspect of the fashion industry as an object of derision or amusement. Is it some Northern male throwback conception of an industry that is considered unmanly and therefore unworthy? Somewhat redolent it seems of a redundant culture snarling at a world these guys fails to comprehend.

[vogie]

3 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

I am intrigued as to why anybody would regard dressmaking or indeed any aspect of the fashion industry as an object of derision or amusement. Is it some Northern male throwback conception of an industry that is considered unmanly and therefore unworthy? Somewhat redolent it seems of a redundant culture snarling at a world these guys fails to comprehend.

I wouldn't worry about it too much SW, we will be looking for someone shortly to run up some bunting for our official brexit leaving party, you will always be my first choice. ?

[simoh1490]

6 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

I am intrigued as to why anybody would regard dressmaking or indeed any aspect of the fashion industry as an object of derision or amusement. Is it some Northern male throwback conception of an industry that is considered unmanly and therefore unworthy? Somewhat redolent it seems of a redundant culture snarling at a world these guys fails to comprehend.

Please use shorter words and simpler sentence structures, remember much of your audience is tabloid readers.

[SheungWan]

18 minutes ago, vogie said:

I wouldn't worry about it too much SW, we will be looking for someone shortly to run up some bunting for our official brexit leaving party, you will always be my first choice. ?

Maybe you should hang all that bunting on the Irish border posts.

[Grouse]

9 hours ago, aright said:

Do you anticipate freedom of movement will be curtailed by building a wall north and south of Calais? Where have heard that one before?

What leverage do you anticipate we will loose, you haven't been great at answering the questions your comments generate.

I can give an example of leverage gained.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/12/02/fishermen-should-land-brexit-benefits/

You're being rather disingenuous again.

 

Of course one will be able to go Skiing in Lech or visit Florence in the Spring! But you won't necessarily be able to up stumps and go and live, work or retire in Copenhagen.

 

By being a member of the EU were were able to influence its decision making. As part of that block we have much more leverage on the world stage

 

There are a myriad of points I could raise but these are EXEMPLARS

 

As for the fishermen, you're partly correct but they will l.ose their key export markets. The fish will be worse off. Enjoy your cod until the stocks are depleted again....

[nauseus]

35 minutes ago, Grouse said:

You're being rather disingenuous again.

 

Of course one will be able to go Skiing in Lech or visit Florence in the Spring! But you won't necessarily be able to up stumps and go and live, work or retire in Copenhagen.

 

By being a member of the EU were were able to influence its decision making. As part of that block we have much more leverage on the world stage

 

There are a myriad of points I could raise but these are EXEMPLARS

 

As for the fishermen, you're partly correct but they will l.ose their key export markets. The fish will be worse off. Enjoy your cod until the stocks are depleted again....

British influence within the EU has been declining rapidly for years. This will now happen to EU influence, globally. 

[Grouse]

8 hours ago, SheungWan said:

And I'm Father Christmas.

I'm not bloody sitting on your knee and telling you what I want!

Edited December 3, 2017 by Grouse

[Grouse]

6 hours ago, Khun Han said:

 

Thankyou for confirming why the UK needs to free itself from the EU's economic straitjacket. I assume you can provide evidence that the figures will get better if we stay in the EU?

Theory, practice and common sense say that one should concentrate on the biggest markets and the closest markets and PARTICULARLY THE BIGGEST CLOSEST MARKETS

[Grouse]

2 hours ago, nauseus said:

British influence within the EU has been declining rapidly for years. This will now happen to EU influence, globally. 

https://fullfact.org/europe/british-influence-eu-council-ministers/

 

Is this unacceptable to you? Why?

 

The EU does indeed have significant leverage in global matters.... 

 

 

[aright]

50 minutes ago, Grouse said:

Theory, practice and common sense say that one should concentrate on the biggest markets and the closest markets and PARTICULARLY THE BIGGEST CLOSEST MARKETS

What theory? What practice? And in your case we can forget about common sense. 

Recently  Trump announced  a 250 bn Trade Deal with China. Can you remind us how close the USA is to China.

As far as concentrating on the biggest markets. Switzerland and Iceland have a trade deal with China, after 40 years does the EU?

A fascist, a racist and a sexist walk into a bar and the barman says "What will it be Mr President?" 

[nausea]

Interesting, Brexiteers tying their argument to economic benefit, might come back to bite them. They had some good arguments, don't know if this one was the strongest.

Edited December 3, 2017 by nausea
More info.

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, Grouse said:

https://fullfact.org/europe/british-influence-eu-council-ministers/

 

Is this unacceptable to you? Why?

 

The EU does indeed have significant leverage in global matters.... 

 

 

I can accept your present quoted percentages if you can acknowledge the historic lack of success in using them. This combined with veto give-aways and QMV made any UK say in the EU a mere whisper. The only significant contribution was cash, which of course the EU takes notice of.

 

EU leverage is in decline globally, as is the EU itself.

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, Grouse said:

I'm not bloody sitting on your knee and telling you what I want!

Sounds like May and Juncker, except she's lying down and he's doing the telling.