webfact Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 With bitcoin shooting past $14,000, the establishment is vying to get in on the game By Sam Khoury Special to The Nation File photo Bitcoin, the virtual digital currency which uses a public electronic ledger system to log every transaction and an advanced “mining” system which keeps a finite number of bitcoins available, thereby increasing their value, is again on fire. The value of this electronic commodity is highly speculative as its use as an actual currency is limited to mostly shady back room deals on the anonymous “dark Net”. For years now its reputation as a preferred medium for drug dealers and extortionists kept big governments, banks and marketplaces away from it. None of the big online retailers, from eBay to Alibaba, will accept it, and you don’t see it in the bricks-and-mortar retail scene either. The virtual currency has real drawbacks beyond just its reputation. Bitcoin’s advanced ledger system has proven impenetrable to hackers. The bitcoin hacks you hear about in the news are instances of thefts of poorly secured bitcoins. The underlying technology of the bitcoin blockchain has been impossible to corrupt – no one has ever been able to counterfeit bitcoins. Here lies one of blockchain’s shortcomings: “instantly” confirming every transaction through the blockchain – which keeps the system error-free, can take up to 20 minutes to complete, and at least 10 minutes. Forget about using bitcoins to quickly pay for that carton of juice at the FamilyMart like Bangkokians do with their rabbit tap-cards. Another problem is that these encrypted strings of random letters and numbers that represent bitcoins and bitcoin transactions can be cumbersome, especially to non-techies. Although wallet apps promise to make the experience more user-friendly, simple errors are irreversible. There is only the blockchain, no customer service reps. Despite its shortcomings, bitcoin has continued to surge as excitement about the potential of the new technology has not abated. With bitcoin rising, a number of digital coin imitators are swimming in its wake. Since the blockchain technology is open-source, anyone who possesses advanced coding skills can make their own crypto-currency. Some of these promise to address some of bitcoin’s issues. LiteCoin, for example, reduces the transaction confirmation time to as little as two and half minutes. Etherium boasts that not only can it be used as a currency, its blockchain network can become a “world computer” that hosts third-party apps and takes power away from corporate giants like Google and Apple. Others make the mining game more random, so not only supercomputers can play. Web exchange services like Kraken and BitStamp act as trading platforms for all the various public coins that are now floating around the Internet. Their interface looks and feels similar to a stock-trading platform with users day-trading the various coins against each other. The corporate money movers that were initially so wary of blockchain now feel that perhaps a little bureaucracy is exactly what this technology needs. Ripple coin is being backed by some of the world’s largest financial behemoths, such as Standard Chartered, American Express and UBS. They are hoping that corporate backing and customer service brings some of the retailers around. The Russian government recently announced that Russia will introduce its own crypto-currency with itself acting as the miner and the coins exchangeable with rubles only. Speaking of governments, financial bureaux and governments all over the world have repeatedly ruled or decided that these crypto-currencies are actually not currencies at all, but rather commodities like gold or silver. With that in mind the latest entry into the virtual coin world is Ankorus. Ankorus is launching as another exchange service but it will allow the user to “tokenise” standard equities, bonds and commodities into the exchange and thus allow for everything to be traded on a single exchange and will introduce its own crypto-currency at the same time. With all these developments in technology the future is uncertain. They could all come crashing down in value like a typical bubble, or perhaps the speculators will decide that there is some wisdom in the establishment taking over. In that case those new players will gain at the expense of such crypto-currencies as bitcoin. For now, they all seem to be rising in unison. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/opinion/30333645 -- © Copyright The Nation 2017-12-11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proboscis Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 The "establishment?" How terribly upper-class English of you! I can see by "establishment" the author means several large international banks who will be running your cybercurrency: Standard Chartered (fined several times over money laundering, latest fine of $300 million in 2014), American Express (in hot water over the years for various consumer related offences in the UK and USA - latest fine $85 million in 2012) and UBS (various scandals from aiding and abetting tax evasion in several EU countries to large Forex manipulation scandal). Oh, why do I now feel so much more worried about cybercurrencies? Remember the last time that banks got involved in securities that did not have any backing? Yes, they were mortgages whose payees could not afford them. But at least there were some bricks and mortar that could be foreclosed on. In the case of cybercurrency, there is and never way and never will be . . . anything but the hot air of the seller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedtripler Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 2 hours ago, Proboscis said: The "establishment?" How terribly upper-class English of you! I can see by "establishment" the author means several large international banks who will be running your cybercurrency: Standard Chartered (fined several times over money laundering, latest fine of $300 million in 2014), American Express (in hot water over the years for various consumer related offences in the UK and USA - latest fine $85 million in 2012) and UBS (various scandals from aiding and abetting tax evasion in several EU countries to large Forex manipulation scandal). Oh, why do I now feel so much more worried about cybercurrencies? Remember the last time that banks got involved in securities that did not have any backing? Yes, they were mortgages whose payees could not afford them. But at least there were some bricks and mortar that could be foreclosed on. In the case of cybercurrency, there is and never way and never will be . . . anything but the hot air of the seller. I'll just leave this here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawker9000 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 I've gotta' agree with Cramer on this one; it's a gamble, not an investment. The ponies can pay off that way, too. 'Only makes economic sense for residents of socialist utopias like Venezuela who need a safe haven to escape the disaster of their local currency,,,, and out & out criminals. But maybe there are some of the bigger banks trying to buy it up and get a corner on it. Western governments DO have the means to disincentivize cryptocurrencies by various regulatory and technical means, and I believe eventually will. (Actually, they already do to some extent, a fact not yet realized by many who think they can just cash-in their bitcoin on a posh mansion or Learjet and escape IRS scrutiny...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cats4ever Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Do I have to use old fashioned money to buy or sell bitcoin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesimps Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 9 hours ago, hawker9000 said: I've gotta' agree with Cramer on this one; it's a gamble, not an investment. The ponies can pay off that way, too. 'Only makes economic sense for residents of socialist utopias like Venezuela who need a safe haven to escape the disaster of their local currency,,,, and out & out criminals. But maybe there are some of the bigger banks trying to buy it up and get a corner on it. Western governments DO have the means to disincentivize cryptocurrencies by various regulatory and technical means, and I believe eventually will. (Actually, they already do to some extent, a fact not yet realized by many who think they can just cash-in their bitcoin on a posh mansion or Learjet and escape IRS scrutiny...) I for one with my small investment don't expect to make my fortune, but if I do, the taxman's welcome to a chunk of it, he already gets 20% of my pension so I'm used to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidst01 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 6 hours ago, Cats4ever said: Do I have to use old fashioned money to buy or sell bitcoin? Yes, Just set up an account with bx.in.th and then send baht to your account. Then you can buy and sell as you wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quandow Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Just curious - how do you cash out your bitcoins? Why do tulip bulbs come to mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedtripler Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 hour ago, quandow said: Just curious - how do you cash out your bitcoins? Why do tulip bulbs come to mind? Did you wilfully ignore the post directly above yours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedtripler Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 On 11/12/2017 at 4:24 PM, speedtripler said: I'll just leave this here.... The predictions have all been spot on so far.... From the looks of things 2018 is going to be the year of mainstream CryptoCurrency adoption which should work out very nice for anyone who is buying this early Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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