Leaving Thailand quickly

[Techno Viking]

Car and bike will be difficult to sell without a residency cert and a signed copies of your visa.

[George FmplesdaCosteedback]

10 hours ago, The manic said:

giving people healthcare is not a trick it's humane justice. Just because foreigners like you hate the democratically elected leader does not mean the 25 million people who did vote for him think he tricked them. The solution is to have an election.

Wake up. He bought the election with "gifts and promises" and killed 2,500 people, plus those political opponents that went missing. He should be put to death for mass murder.

Escaped jail fleeing the country for corruption.

The health care was about as well costed out as the rice scam he had his sister do, that was to distract from the amnesty bill he wanted.

Thailand did need a health care system and now it has one that is not properly funded, only by rock stars running from one end of the country to the other.

Thai democracy? Next at the trough more like...

Until the entrenched corruption is ended in the judiciary, police, civil service and military nothing will change.

 

The question is: Who CAN make the change?

 

 

 

[George FmplesdaCosteedback]

I will say again, it depends on where you go...

My friend paid 25,000 for a endoscopy but it was 2,500 where my missus went.

[faraday]

What started as a plea for help, has turned into a peeing contest.

Dreadful.

[oldlakey]

11 hours ago, altcar bob said:

Where did I say FULL BODY SCAN for 1400 baht,  you did mention 150 000 baht if I remember perhaps you put an extra 0 in   think 9000 baht is a bit closer to an actual figure than 150 000 baht   wot u fink? for FBS..  Heres a sample start price  250 rps for ct scan (175 baht)  av price on left   950 baht  prob brain scan  lol

Bangalore	Rs. 4713.00	Rs. 250.00
Bardhaman	Rs. 1856.00	Rs. 1400.00

I fully expect they know how to read what they are looking at when the paper jumps out of the scanner INNIT

Which is a tad better than not very much for 35,000 Baht

Edited January 26, 2018 by oldlakey

[altcar bob]

5 hours ago, George FmplesdaCosteedback said:

I will say again, it depends on where you go...

My friend paid 25,000 for a endoscopy but it was 2,500 where my missus went.

And it was 400 baht where I went (colonoscopy)

 

4 hours ago, faraday said:

What started as a plea for help, has turned into a peeing contest.

Dreadful.

You could well say this....under year ago 5 days hospital india laser op prostate, ....(friend) frightened off by Thai prices flew UK,prob went private about 8000 gbp, I had the op for half what his air  fare was  and Im pissing better than what falls off Niagra

[altcar bob]

7 hours ago, George FmplesdaCosteedback said:

I don't agree.

Not bothered    just get on with it then...Did put up comparison site 

[thaibeachlovers]

18 hours ago, The manic said:

giving people healthcare is not a trick it's humane justice. Just because foreigners like you hate the democratically elected leader does not mean the 25 million people who did vote for him think he tricked them. The solution is to have an election.

The problem with "healthcare" these days is that people expect to get heart transplants and such like for free in socialised health care, which is a nonsense, but unfortunately, politicians have been bribing voters by promising organisations like the NHS will do everything for everyone. That is why the NHS is failing.

Socialised health care should only deal with immediate things like accidents and heart attacks/ strokes. It should not be involved in keeping people alive indefinitely, should have zero to do with transplants, other than such operations that keep people off more expensive treatments like kidney transplants ( people can live long lives with dialysis, but their life is bad and expensive to the state ). Eye operations like cataract removal allow people to live independently without state expense, so should be done by the state.

Should absolutely have nothing to with fertility treatment. State health is to save life, not create it.

If people want to live forever, get insurance to pay for private hospitals to allow them to try.

[The manic]

8 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The problem with "healthcare" these days is that people expect to get heart transplants and such like for free in socialised health care, which is a nonsense, but unfortunately, politicians have been bribing voters by promising organisations like the NHS will do everything for everyone. That is why the NHS is failing.

Socialised health care should only deal with immediate things like accidents and heart attacks/ strokes. It should not be involved in keeping people alive indefinitely, should have zero to do with transplants, other than such operations that keep people off more expensive treatments like kidney transplants ( people can live long lives with dialysis, but their life is bad and expensive to the state ). Eye operations like cataract removal allow people to live independently without state expense, so should be done by the state.

Should absolutely have nothing to with fertility treatment. State health is to save life, not create it.

If people want to live forever, get insurance to pay for private hospitals to allow them to try.

I am no fan of the NHS. And agree with a lot of what you say. But don't confuse attemptsto give The  basic dignity of humane, desperately needed, healthcare to Thai poor people with your hatred of a politician. BTW. We pay into the NHS all our lives via taxes and National Insurances Payments.  Its not free at all. 

Edited January 26, 2018 by The manic

[gk10002000]

On 1/22/2018 at 10:31 PM, Eff1n2ret said:

Not really ripped off. From my memory of having a CT scan 6 years ago, it cost 17k baht, and I've had a couple of short stays in the Bangkok Rayong Hospital where non-surgical care cost around 15k baht a night. It's not cheap, but it's the going rate for a good hospital in Thailand, which is far cheaper than what you'd pay for private treatment in a Western hospital.

The OP was unfortunate that his condition wasn't susceptible to a rapid diagnosis. I hope he's on the mend now.

I had an emergency 2 AM CAT scan here in San Diego area, and the end cost was $3100 USD.  Had a tiny kidney stone that dissolved while I was sitting there literally after an IV and I was home in a few hours.  Damn thing sure hurt though and was just barely visible on the scan.  All this was done in about 4 hours from check in until I drove home.  So he was charged 32000 baht which is about $1,000 USD.  I don't think he was price gouged.

[oldlakey]

15 minutes ago, gk10002000 said:

I had an emergency 2 AM CAT scan here in San Diego area, and the end cost was $3100 USD.  Had a tiny kidney stone that dissolved while I was sitting there literally after an IV and I was home in a few hours.  Damn thing sure hurt though and was just barely visible on the scan.  All this was done in about 4 hours from check in until I drove home.  So he was charged 32000 baht which is about $1,000 USD.  I don't think he was price gouged.

WOT your comparing USA prices with the rest of the world 555555555

Well at least you got what you paid for some consolation I suppose

Thats better than next to nothing

The doctor was not up to the task so why do the scan, the hospital took money under false pretenses 

The whole situation is laughable, a $1,000 dollars indeed

[greenchair]

How much is the car. 

I'm looking for a car. 

If not too expensive. 

And a tv as mine just broke down. 

[gk10002000]

6 minutes ago, oldlakey said:

WOT your comparing USA prices with the rest of the world 555555555

Well at least you got what you paid for some consolation I suppose

Thats better than next to nothing

The doctor was not up to the task so why do the scan, the hospital took money under false pretenses 

The whole situation is laughable, a $1,000 dollars indeed

exactly.  I was comparing and offering prices.  I never claimed that what he paid in that Thai hospital was better or worse than he might pay in other Thai hospitals.  I am just saying that for $1,000 USD he got a scan an examination a review and a recommendation to go seek better help.  To me, $1,000 for an emergency walk in, and it sounds like he did not have any Thai medical insurance, is not being gouged.  No obvious problem was found, and that meant he was good enough to travel back to the UK.  So the exam was useful

Edited January 26, 2018 by gk10002000
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[oldlakey]

1 minute ago, gk10002000 said:

exactly.  I was comparing and offering prices.  I never claimed that what he paid in that Thai hospital was better or worse than he might pay in other Thai hospitals.  I am just saying that for $1,000 USD he got a scan an examination a review and a recommendation to go seek better help.  To me, $1,000 for an emergency walk in, and it sounds like he did not have any Thai medical insurance, is not being gouged.

35,000 Baht for basically being pointed in the right direction wow I am impressed not a bad little earner

I am am not concerned about anything other than 35,000 Baht for sod all siddall

Well if you think thats good value so be it 

Goodnight

[oldlakey]

7 minutes ago, greenchair said:

How much is the car. 

I'm looking for a car. 

If not too expensive. 

And a tv as mine just broke down. 

Everything is sold as seen, plus buyer collects

[oldlakey]

8 minutes ago, greenchair said:

How much is the car. 

I'm looking for a car. 

If not too expensive. 

And a tv as mine just broke down. 

Sorry I forgot cash only

[brling]

45 minutes ago, gk10002000 said:

  I don't think he was price gouged.

I do. The OP said "I felt worse than when I went in",  They also could not even analyse the findings. Wise up

[gk10002000]

54 minutes ago, brling said:

I do. The OP said "I felt worse than when I went in",  They also could not even analyse the findings. Wise up

You are entitled to your opinion about the price and service rendered.  You are not entitled to try and insult a poster.  Just because he felt worse after he left than when he went in, does not mean that was due to the hospital treatment.  His condition may have simply degraded due to time and might have happened the same as if he had stayed home.  The hospital did verify he was not in immediate danger and that he was able to travel home.  Now stop your badgering.  It is not the hospital's fault that they could not analyze the findings.  I think it is a fairly good thing the hospital admitted they did not know what to do and sent him on his way.  Now if you think the services and amount of time he spent was price gouging, so be it.  I assure you relative prices charged in some countries, paying ~1,000 USD is a common price, especially for a walk in emergency treatment without a primary care physician, and apparently without any medical insurance.

[gk10002000]

1 hour ago, oldlakey said:

35,000 Baht for basically being pointed in the right direction wow I am impressed not a bad little earner

I am am not concerned about anything other than 35,000 Baht for sod all siddall

Well if you think thats good value so be it 

Goodnight

I never said I was not concerned.  I thought the price was crazy, the price is the price. I am just saying he paid relatively less.  Especially for a walk in emergency service, no primary doctor, and apparently no medical insurance.  Some of you think $100 bucks and you can walk in stay at a hospital, use equipment use services, etc. 

[greenchair]

6 hours ago, oldlakey said:

Everything is sold as seen, plus buyer collects

I'm not past how much is yet. 

I'll worry about sold as seen and buyer collects later. 

[oldlakey]

1 hour ago, greenchair said:

I'm not past how much is yet. 

I'll worry about sold as seen and buyer collects later. 

The price will depend on the quality of your smile

The rest are just terms and conditions 

Have a nice day

[oldlakey]

6 hours ago, gk10002000 said:

I never said I was not concerned.  I thought the price was crazy, the price is the price. I am just saying he paid relatively less.  Especially for a walk in emergency service, no primary doctor, and apparently no medical insurance.  Some of you think $100 bucks and you can walk in stay at a hospital, use equipment use services, etc. 

for goodness sake my man

I have not got a problem with the price any hospital charges that is a matter for the hospital and nobody else

Its up to the patient to suss out if the price could be a problem

The idea of using equipment and services is to get a diagnosis and then treatment, not to be shown the door no further forward

Thats my problem

I will repeat myself for ONE last time, 35,000 Baht for practically nothing is criminal

The OP was no further forward after his stay do to no fault of his own

Exactly how much do you and the others defending this hospitals incompetence think he should have paid

[lopburi3]

On 1/22/2018 at 9:06 PM, The manic said:

You have left for serious medical reasons. Nothing more to say. Cancel what you can online and report your medical problem and the related issues to The UK Thai embassy. Do you have any friends here to assist? It is unlikely the UK doctors can do more than the Thai doctors. Your condition sounds like a viral related Guillain-Barré syndrome.  Hope you get better and that you had medical insurance.

The fact UK doctor has not come up with a diagnosis; but is indicating do not leave and prepare for hospital, would not indicate any failing by Thai doctor not having an answer after a one night stay in my mind.  If it is Guillain-Barre initial diagnosis is extremely hard; and hope that it is not.   We want to feel better when paying money I understand but this is an expensive facility and expect there were many tests done and CT is not cheap so can understand the 35k bill.  

 

A good friend did have Guillain-Barre syndrome during a visit to Thailand last year and had to spend 9 months in Bumrungrad Hospital (he did have insurance) so very good that OP in in UK with free treatment available in the unlikely event of such a condition.  

[jerry921]

I think it would be better if there was a separate thread to discuss hospital costs and one to discuss dealing with the OP's stuff.

 

On the cat-scan cost topic, is it possible that a dual-pricing structure is in place, with one set of prices for emergency scans and another for ones made with an appointment? I think the hospitals have to keep a certain number of time slots open on the machines just in case an emergency case drops in. That's got to result in unused time slots and drive up the cost of scans for at least some other patients if not all.

[greenchair]

4 hours ago, oldlakey said:

The price will depend on the quality of your smile

The rest are just terms and conditions 

Have a nice day

Well, it was a genuinely interested offer. 

But if that's the way you speak to people that are offering a hand of help, then you go and have a nice day yourself. 

[thaibeachlovers]

19 hours ago, The manic said:

I am no fan of the NHS. And agree with a lot of what you say. But don't confuse attemptsto give The  basic dignity of humane, desperately needed, healthcare to Thai poor people with your hatred of a politician. BTW. We pay into the NHS all our lives via taxes and National Insurances Payments.  Its not free at all. 

healthcare to Thai poor people with your hatred of a politician.

Don't know which politician you are talking about? Whatever it's not a Thai politician.

I know that you pay NI in the UK ( I did that too ), but the NI you paid probably wouldn't cover the actual cost of expensive treatments. Transplants are incredibly expensive, and the cost of one heart transplant would probably pay for hundreds of minor ops like cataracts.

Only costing I can find with a quick google search is 70,000 quid for a liver transplant, and that presumably is just the op and not all the testing and follow up.

[The manic]

13 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

healthcare to Thai poor people with your hatred of a politician.

Don't know which politician you are talking about? Whatever it's not a Thai politician.

I know that you pay NI in the UK ( I did that too ), but the NI you paid probably wouldn't cover the actual cost of expensive treatments. Transplants are incredibly expensive, and the cost of one heart transplant would probably pay for hundreds of minor ops like cataracts.

Only costing I can find with a quick google search is 70,000 quid for a liver transplant, and that presumably is just the op and not all the testing and follow up.

The cost of a sickly population is damaging to the economy. After a heart  transplant for example a man can continue working, caring for family and paying taxes.  The cost of expensive operations is offset by those people who do not have them. There has to be a better system than the NHS and the Inhumane USA system. Thaxin's attempts were a modest step in the right direction. 

[oldlakey]

11 hours ago, greenchair said:

Well, it was a genuinely interested offer. 

But if that's the way you speak to people that are offering a hand of help, then you go and have a nice day yourself. 

Pardon, help, are you not aware of who you are talking to

A little hint here I am not selling anything thank you

You need to either pay attention or lighten up

Cherrio

[oldlakey]

15 hours ago, lopburi3 said:

The fact UK doctor has not come up with a diagnosis; but is indicating do not leave and prepare for hospital, would not indicate any failing by Thai doctor not having an answer after a one night stay in my mind.  If it is Guillain-Barre initial diagnosis is extremely hard; and hope that it is not.   We want to feel better when paying money I understand but this is an expensive facility and expect there were many tests done and CT is not cheap so can understand the 35k bill.  

 

A good friend did have Guillain-Barre syndrome during a visit to Thailand last year and had to spend 9 months in Bumrungrad Hospital (he did have insurance) so very good that OP in in UK with free treatment available in the unlikely event of such a condition.  

The reason the Thai doctor did not have an answer after a one night stay was because of his OWN admission that he could not interpret the scan results

The hospital is wholly at fault for performing the scan when they were well aware that they did not have a doctor / medical professional on site capable of delivering the expertise needed

When we have a medical issue we are at a low ebb and under stress the last thing we need is incompetence such as this hospital delivered to the OP

You and one or two others really need to put the price out of your thinking, the reason I have mentioned it on occasion is not because of the actual amount, its because he did not get a diagnosis, so no treatment plan after paying the hospital tariff / bill for the procedure / scan

That situation is neither use nor ornament, apart for the hospitals bottom line

The hospital should have referred the OP to a hospital which was capable of delivering the service the OP needed

Guillian - Barre syndrome is easily diagnosed by simple nerve tests / reactions and a lumbar puncture, well in my case anyway

No help there for the hospital

 

 

Edited January 27, 2018 by oldlakey

[George FmplesdaCosteedback]

On 1/26/2018 at 8:33 PM, The manic said:

I am no fan of the NHS. And agree with a lot of what you say. But don't confuse attemptsto give The  basic dignity of humane, desperately needed, healthcare to Thai poor people with your hatred of a politician. BTW. We pay into the NHS all our lives via taxes and National Insurances Payments.  Its not free at all. 

I think you are both correct (yourself and BL).

NHS is extremely badly organised and fatally managed.

Funded by tax and prescription charges etc and abused in the UK by millions that have never paid in.

Smokers/drinkers you can argue about (on topic), but they pay in huge amounts to the coffers, and all the obese people do not.

As medical science progresses to extend life expectancy, like the recent pensions plan law, a health plan insurance should be introduced also, but not like the laughable NI stamps, dedicated and ring fenced.

 

Basic healthcare is essential for a modern society, but  should not include gender change or IVF.

 

You can get good medical care in Thailand and with a bit of research you can get it for a fair price at a good hospital, although you might have a longer wait (but never like the NHS).