Popular Post Andaman Al Posted May 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, goldenbrwn1 said: So 60 odd million Americans voted for him. And tbh his rhetoric was alot worse before the vote than it is now . I mean I get u it’s easy to criticise him and he’s not shall we say Shakespearean but he’s says what he thinks. I know shock horror ect a politician who says it how it it for them. But apart from your personal insults on trump .... everything else you posted could well be aimed at Obama... just saying . This is one of the most quoted things that people say is admirable about Trump and it is so misguided and wrong. "He says what he thinks" The first reason this assumption is rubbish is that you are assuming he actually thinks before he speaks - he doesn't, he actually engages mouth before brain. Secondly, saying what you think is of no value when what you think and the words that you say are crapola. Oh and by the way - we are not dealing with inconsequential campaign 'rhetoric' now, we are in a situation where his words and deeds have a direct impact on the security of 7 billion people and last night he frakked up in spades. I just thank whatever God there might be that the Iranian Prime Minister carried himself like a statesman when responding to the SOB (Presidentially used term) that now used to lead the free world. Nice work Donald, another thing you managed to pull the USA out of, - the leadership of the free world. The US Presidency is no longer the most important office in the world, good job. Edited May 10, 2018 by Andaman Al 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremia Juxtaposed Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 4 hours ago, Thingamabob said: Donald Trump entirely correct on this. Obama's very poor deal would simply pass the issue down to the next generation 15 years hence. Typical Obama deal. Duck and weave and leave a big mess for somebody else to clear up. So what is Donald's plan? Should be explained in depth within the next few days then.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alocacoc Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 He should explain his plan to satisfy haters? [emoji23]Trust the process. Sent from a so called Smartphone using an App. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremia Juxtaposed Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Just now, alocacoc said: He should explain his plan to satisfy haters? Trust the process. Sent from a so called Smartphone using an App. Sorry for that. I apologize. I thought he was POTUS not a football team coach. But hey what have we got to lose..? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andaman Al Posted May 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2018 15 minutes ago, alocacoc said: He should explain his plan to satisfy haters? Trust the process. Sent from a so called Smartphone using an App. That kind of thinking allowed 6 million people to be taken to gas chambers. Are we to make that slur on humanity something that should be all in vain? Repeat the same old mistakes? You NEVER trust the 'process' with any Government or politician, you hold them to account at every stage, whoever they are. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremia Juxtaposed Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 22 minutes ago, alocacoc said: He should explain his plan to satisfy haters? Obviously the Saudi haven't told him what his plans are yet...... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 9 hours ago, Baerboxer said: Your last sentence is somewhat bewildering. Are you thinking Europeans in say Sweden and Norway, are the same as Spain, Greece and Italy? Well, I was generalizing I suppose. I was thinking of the Hitlers and Napoleons et al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenbrwn1 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Andaman Al said: This is one of the most quoted things that people say is admirable about Trump and it is so misguided and wrong. "He says what he thinks" The first reason this assumption is rubbish is that you are assuming he actually thinks before he speaks - he doesn't, he actually engages mouth before brain. Why the personal insults ? Please tell me how the US economy is doing.....is N Korea still ready to deploy nukes? Are there 3 US prisoners on their way home from N.Korea because of ( obviously) the love of your life Obama? What has Trump actually done in the last near two years that has brought about instability in the world? All I can see is results . I’m no fan of him personally and if I had a choice of dining with him or Obama ...I would prob choose Obama. Edited May 10, 2018 by goldenbrwn1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ChouDoufu Posted May 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2018 iran is actually in a pretty good position now. they have been in full compliance with the jcpoa since the start, despite still waiting for the promised benefits of the deal. russian and china have no reason to renew sanctions, and the europeans are still committed. why should iran renegotiate an existing and fully-functional agreement? and why would they agree to more restrictions, seeing as the prior agreement was never fully implemented by the biggest player? they can point to their perfect record of compliance as attested to by the iaea, as well as the fact that they were never in violation of the non-proliferation treaty. they can manage without dollars; euros will work, as will the new petroyuan, as will cryptocurrencies. they can also route their transactions through russia's new MIR system to avoid SWIFT. gold and barter will do as well. in the event of new negotiations, i can see iran making some demands of their own. i can see a long list, including a middle east nuclear free zone, requiring ALL countries therein to sign the NPT, open their nuclear sites to inspectors, end any nuclear weapons programs, destroy any existing nuclear weapons, sign the chemical weapons treaty, destroy any stocks of chemical or biological weapons as well as the manufacturing centers. and that's just a start. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwiken Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 12 hours ago, Boon Mee said: It's not rocket science. Trump will enact more restrictive sanctions on this country that is the chief exporter of terrorism. And of course the USA only exports Love and Democracy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremia Juxtaposed Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 40 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said: in the event of new negotiations, i can see iran making some demands of their own. i can see a long list, including a middle east nuclear free zone, requiring ALL countries therein to sign the NPT, open their nuclear sites to inspectors, end any nuclear weapons programs, destroy any existing nuclear weapons, sign the chemical weapons treaty, destroy any stocks of chemical or biological weapons as well as the manufacturing centers. and that's just a start. Bilateral as well....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremia Juxtaposed Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, Kiwiken said: And of course the USA only exports Love and Democracy? And I hope that stops soon too..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 10 hours ago, AsiaHand said: England, You do not tell anyone to relate about any plans they have. The US is no longer one of your slave colonies. You may "ASK" about things though. Please translate that into English so that I may consider your point and respond appropriately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alocacoc Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 It would be dangerous to disclose his strategy. I guess finally the goal is to take out that regime in Iran. I can't see any other way. That didn't end well in the past in similar scenarios. But this time there isn't a bungler in charge. So yes, optimism is appropriate. Trump knows exactly what he does. Other would say, he's a stable genius. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Delta Tango has helped in one respect. Some of my sillier brethren hoped to get closer to the USA to compensate for their wishes to leave the EU. This must now be dead. Who can trust any deal with the USA on ANYTHING? Who would want to get closer to a country that would elect this dunderhead as president? No, much wiser to stay at the heart of Europe, build up our defences and our global network of friends and trading partners. I want to see sanctions against the USA. They can keep their aircraft, their "culture" and their cruel animal husbandry. Good night all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiKiwi Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 The whole prospect of Boris Johnson and Donald Trump in the same room talking about something serious fills me with wonder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 (edited) 14 hours ago, KiwiKiwi said: The whole prospect of Boris Johnson and Donald Trump in the same room talking about something serious fills me with wonder... I expect Trump would get a good laugh out of it. Edited May 11, 2018 by thaibeachlovers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiKiwi Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 35 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: I expect Trump would get a good laugh out of it. Indeed. It's a pity he doesn't see the joke that is Trump. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabothai Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 20 hours ago, alocacoc said: It would be dangerous to disclose his strategy. I guess finally the goal is to take out that regime in Iran. I can't see any other way. That didn't end well in the past in similar scenarios. But this time there isn't a bungler in charge. So yes, optimism is appropriate. Trump knows exactly what he does. Other would say, he's a stable genius. Have another coke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiKiwi Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 19 hours ago, wabothai said: Have another coke And some more KoolAId Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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