snoop1130 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Air force trainer goes down at Bhumibol dam, 1 dead By Asaree Thaitrakulpanich, Staff Reporter The plane crash that killed Squadron Leader Krerkkiat Suwannno, 36, Tuesday in Tak. TAK — An air force officer died after ejecting from his plane Tuesday while his co-pilot survived the impact. Squadron Leader Kroekkiat Suwanno, 36, was found hanging from his parachute in a tree after his jet crashed onto the Bhumibol Dam Golf Course in the Sam Ngao district of Tak province. His co-pilot, Group Capt. Jirasak Namwongtri, 42, survived. Full Story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/calamity/2018/05/22/air-force-trainer-goes-down-at-bhumibol-dam-1-dead/ -- © Copyright Khaosod English 2018-5-22 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shady86 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 So ejecting is more dangerous than staying on crashing plane. Interesting... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpaintpot Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Why would two high ranking officers be flying together in a trainer? Surely they both already had a pilot's licence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, shady86 said: So ejecting is more dangerous than staying on crashing plane. Interesting... To found out whether that would be true or not, you would have to take into account more than just one incident 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoop1130 Posted May 22, 2018 Author Share Posted May 22, 2018 Trainer jet crashes onto Tak golf course, co-pilot badly hurt By The Nation One pilot was killed and another seriously injured when a military training jet crashed on to a golf course near Tak’s Bhumibol Dam on Tuesday afternoon. Following a report of a plane crash at 2.30pm, Sam Ngao district police rushed to the scene along with fire engines. They found wreckage of the aircraft strewn in the branches of a tree and across the ground at the golf course. Rescue workers found first pilot Group Captain Jirasak Ngamwongsri lying seriously injured on the ground, while co-pilot Squadron Leader Krerkkiat Suwanno was pronounced dead after being taken down from a tree. The jet aircraft flew from the Takhlee Base in Nakhon Sawan and was passing over Tak to join others at the Wing 41 Base in Chiang Mai. It descended rapidly after passing over the dam and pilots battled to regain height before it crashed into a tree and burst into flames, according to an eyewitness on the ground. An investigation into the crash has begun. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30346039 -- © Copyright The Nation 2018-5-22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bangrak Posted May 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2018 2 hours ago, shady86 said: So ejecting is more dangerous than staying on crashing plane. Interesting... It depends 'a bit' of the conditions of the ejection, first of being the distance above ground, second the orientation of the airplane (side, upside-down...?), third the time before the crash. On top of it all, it is crucial that the airplane, it's safety equipment, and Nr.1 its ejecting system devices would be perfectly maintained... 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bangrak Posted May 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2018 What type of plane, please? In dotation since yyyy in the RTAF? Mission order for the flight? Airbase of origin and of destination? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bangrak Posted May 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2018 Rest in peace Sq L Kroekkiat! When it is what I think it is on you helmet, it must have been a massive shunt, at least you didn't suffer... My respects to the family. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenslegs Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, bangrak said: What type of plane, please? In dotation since yyyy in the RTAF? Mission order for the flight? Airbase of origin and of destination? I know nothing about military aircraft - but in the Thai language part of the OP there is an aircraft code L 39 ZA/ART. https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=436 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangrak Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 According to Khasod, it was the opposite: the plane had left from Chiang Mai and was flying to Tak... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangrak Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, chickenslegs said: I know nothing about military aircraft - but in the Thai language part of the OP there is an aircraft code L 39 ZA/ART. https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=436 CZ built = good quality, but 40+ years in service, ...in Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coulson Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 So......U Tapao gonna be a maintenance hub by 2020..... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 CM trainers. Old as the hills. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Psimbo Posted May 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2018 52 minutes ago, coulson said: So......U Tapao gonna be a maintenance hub by 2020..... What does the crash of a military aircraft have to do with civil carriers like Air Asia setting up a maintenance hub? It's a fact of life that by the type of training military pilots do aircraft malfunction and crash from time to time, either from internal or external circumstances. It would appear that this was a technical failure of either type and they may have been attempting to make an emergency landing on the golf course. This may be why one pilot ejected- again it can be a common occurrence to lighten the aircraft or (unfortunately not in this case) lessen the risk of casualties. The unfortunately named Albatross is one of the most common training aircraft in the world, used by over 40 countries. The Thai ones have been upgraded with Israeli systems. It is a reliable 40 year old design ideal for what it was designed for. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenslegs Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, Psimbo said: ... The unfortunately named Albatross is one of the most common training aircraft in the world, used by over 40 countries ... This is a tragedy for the family and colleagues of the two men, so I mean no offence - but I just realised the irony of the aircraft name. Normally, on a golf course, an Albatross would be something to celebrate (a score of 3 under par on a single hole). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoon Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 9 hours ago, shady86 said: So ejecting is more dangerous than staying on crashing plane. Interesting... No. Landing by parachute in trees is very dangerous and the co-pilot got lucky. A simplistic answer to an even more simplistic, ill informed comment which took no regard of the specific circumstances of the fatality/survival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoon Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 10 hours ago, peterpaintpot said: Why would two high ranking officers be flying together in a trainer? Surely they both already had a pilot's licence. No indication that instruction was taking place. They were on a point to point liaison flight...... "to join others at the Wing 41 Base in Chiang Mai". One was the driver, the other the "hitcher". 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coulson Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 7 hours ago, Psimbo said: What does the crash of a military aircraft have to do with civil carriers like Air Asia setting up a maintenance hub? The common factor is aircraft maintenance. I don't want to speculate on the rest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 A troll post has been removed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikwiljou Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 RIP to the pilot and condolence to his family and friends. Wish the co-pilot full recovery. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingdoc Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 R.I.P. to the co-pilot. Sounds like a tragic accident, but we must await an air accident investigation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiman123 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 The L39 was the jet that tbe thai military had decommisioned ....why was it being flown? the thai military recently bought T50 new jet trainers from South Korea. Im not sure the L39 had new israeli air systems. Elbit of israel is doing much business w Thailand for example in truck based 155mm howitzers and other equiptment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernieOnTour Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 12 hours ago, bangrak said: but 40+ years in service, ...in Thailand military aircrafts are crashing not only in Thailand: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_military_aircraft_(2010–present) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 12 hours ago, bangrak said: It depends 'a bit' of the conditions of the ejection, first of being the distance above ground, second the orientation of the airplane (side, upside-down...?), third the time before the crash. On top of it all, it is crucial that the airplane, it's safety equipment, and Nr.1 its ejecting system devices would be perfectly maintained... Distance above ground????? The ejection system works from ground as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tandor Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 13 hours ago, bangrak said: What type of plane, please? In dotation since yyyy in the RTAF? Mission order for the flight? Airbase of origin and of destination? ..maybe restricted information until air-crash investigators have finished their examination...hmm..RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Grumpy Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 At least a succession of rescue helicopters didn't crash as well. Tak seems to be the Bermuda Triangle of the Thai Air Force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trident280 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 A lot of conjecture as to why they didn't eject. The fact the parachute is deployed in the photo (and that one pilot survived the jet crash) indicates to me they did eject. Possibly too late (which wouldn't be surprising if they were flying at low level) and certainly bodies arriving at the same place as the wreckage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobnuts Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 16 hours ago, peterpaintpot said: Why would two high ranking officers be flying together in a trainer? Surely they both already had a pilot's licence. Squadron leader rank is about the lowest grade to get in a plane. Understand that GC here is like a sergeant anywhere west of 50E. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKDfella Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Got this picture from my archive pictures; Which reminds me a little of the older USA Lockheed Star fighter; The first being subsonic and the latter being supersonic. Sad but it does happen sometimes. My condolences to the family and I hope the survivour recovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 (edited) 16 hours ago, peterpaintpot said: Why would two high ranking officers be flying together in a trainer? Surely they both already had a pilot's licence. Why shouldn't they? Edited May 23, 2018 by Just Weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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