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Retirement Visa Agency

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I heard about this agency on facebook <link to commercial Facebook page>

They told me that they could help me get my Non-O visa extension even-though i do not have the required 800,000 THB (3 statements).

 

I'm just wondering if anyone has had any experience with them or other agencies / lawyers that provide similar services. 

Edited by ubonjoe
removed a commercial link (forum rule)

Hmmm.

A little odd that this particular agency has been asked about before on TV.

With that, there are 100's of these agencies the majority of which from my experience will provide the service they promise for a fee.

I used an agency before but interacted with them in person and never let my passport out of my site.

If you are going this route, my suggestion is to do a face to face with a person at an actual office and not just send them your passport and money,  and hope they keep their promise. 

 

Up to you.

Dodgy and probably illegal.

For piece of mind go the legal route.

I used them last year when I purchased a condo, and no longer had enough cash in Thailand.

 

Everything was straight forward.

 

I did however recommend them to a friend and they had a bit of trouble but that was due to him not understanding that they use a automated system on facebook to assign a agent. (He didn't answer the robots questions). But he just ended up handling everything in their BKK offices.

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Not sure why someone removed the link to the specific agency I'm asking about.

 

You can see them by googling "Thai Visa Centre"

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2 minutes ago, tonyThrowAway said:

I used them last year when I purchased a condo, and no longer had enough cash in Thailand.

 

Everything was straight forward.

 

I did however recommend them to a friend and they had a bit of trouble but that was due to him not understanding that they use a automated system on facebook to assign a agent. (He didn't answer the robots questions). But he just ended up handling everything in their BKK offices.

Thank you for this helpful post.

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19 minutes ago, Phuket Man said:

Dodgy and probably illegal.

For piece of mind go the legal route.

What other option do I have? I need to be here many years, and right now due to unforeseen circumstances i do not qualify.

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48 minutes ago, Ben Zukrel said:

What other option do I have? I need to be here many years, and right now due to unforeseen circumstances i do not qualify.

The problem is not that you get an extension without enough money, since there is no welfare here for foreigners, and whatever you spend is helping the economy.   It is unfortunate they don't set the numbers to something reflecting the actual cost of living here, and drop the "50 or over" rule, so that more foreigners could spend their (smaller) foreign-sourced incomes here.

The problem arises when the immigration personnel get addicted to the cash-envelopes from agents (why they overlook the money-seasoning), and start making trouble for those of us who follow the legal guidelines - trying to force us to use agents and pay 10x+ the actual extension-cost, so they can get a cut of the loot.  There is a similar problem, now, with many amphoes, when you try to get married. 

 

It's a real bummer when you pay and travel for income-letters, MFA stamps on documents, hassle your landlord for private-paperwork, etc - then get shafted, anyway.  Corruption spreads like a contagious virus, and wrecks everything it touches.  Next thing you know, the motto has become "Bad Guys Welcome - Good Guys, Get Stiffed."

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21 minutes ago, JackThompson said:

The problem is not that you get an extension without enough money, since there is no welfare here for foreigners, and whatever you spend is helping the economy.   It is unfortunate they don't set the numbers to something reflecting the actual cost of living here, and drop the "50 or over" rule, so that more foreigners could spend their (smaller) foreign-sourced incomes here.

The problem arises when the immigration personnel get addicted to the cash-envelopes from agents (why they overlook the money-seasoning), and start making trouble for those of us who follow the legal guidelines - trying to force us to use agents and pay 10x+ the actual extension-cost, so they can get a cut of the loot.  There is a similar problem, now, with many amphoes, when you try to get married. 

 

It's a real bummer when you pay and travel for income-letters, MFA stamps on documents, hassle your landlord for private-paperwork, etc - then get shafted, anyway.  Corruption spreads like a contagious virus, and wrecks everything it touches.  Next thing you know, the motto has become "Bad Guys Welcome - Good Guys, Get Stiffed."

Yes, I wish I can just use my assets here as proof of funds but I cannot.

I accept paying 10x the cost because this is my fault, I should have planned more ahead. I think i will just proceed, I spoke with a few others, and it seems like this will work for me this year, and next year I can do everything properly.

How strange a topic should arise about 'Thai Visa Centre'.

I recently received the following e-mail from them;

 

1) You contact us via phone / email / facebook
2) An agent requested us to send you details (we work with many agencies).

Here is what we offer in relation to retirement visa

For your retirement visa renewal
We charge 16,000 THB and if you wish to get a multiple entry is more 4,000 THB

We do NOT require bank balance
We do NOT require pension
We SPONSOR all your requirements
We only need passport + photos, we are agency, and can get it done.

We can process in 3-7 business days (case by case).
We also optionally offer FREE 90 day reporting on your behalf, we mail you back the confirmation slips. (you can still do reporting on your own)

We can service you in four ways for an extension

1) You come to our BKK office, and hand me your passport
2) If you are already in BKK we can send one of our couriers to pickup/drop off your passport.
3) You MAIL/EMS your passport to our BKK office
4) You go to your local immigration, and hand your passport to an immigration officer that works with us.

 

The point is I've never contact them, or an other Visa agent either by e-mail or phone, and I'm not on 'Farcebook', so how did they get my contact details.

Well recently, I did need a document from the British Embassy translating and legalising by the MFA.

The translation office has been the only agency I've given my e-mail to.

Are they also selling on the personal information of clients to make an extra baht.

 

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there is no welfare here for foreigners,

force us to use agents and pay 10x+ the actual extension-cost, 

1 hour ago, JackThompson said:

Next thing you know, the motto has become "Bad Guys Welcome - Good Guys, Get Stiffed."

 

One of the oddest posts I have read.

Welfare for foreigners? Seriously??

 

I have never been asked or forced and personally know no one who has to use an agent.

 

The requirements here are so minimal if one does not qualify they should look in the mirror.

 

If should be: "Bad guys who do not qualify for lack of planning or foresight- Good guys who know the rules and accept them and never get stiffed because they have their act together.

 

 

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If you do not qualify, you do not qualify.

Find another rather than going illegal.

Every now and then this subject comes out on the forum.

Some people think it is illegal service, some others say there's nothing illegal (just a grey area) because you could borrow the money from a friend for just few days. If I don't remember wrong, there's no law saying the money must be seasoned, it is just an Immigration order or something.

About this specif agency the OP is referring to, I've also seen them on FB but never heard of someone who actually used their service.

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16 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

Hmmm.

A little odd that this particular agency has been asked about before on TV.

With that, there are 100's of these agencies the majority of which from my experience will provide the service they promise for a fee.

I used an agency before but interacted with them in person and never let my passport out of my site.

If you are going this route, my suggestion is to do a face to face with a person at an actual office and not just send them your passport and money,  and hope they keep their promise. 

 

Up to you.

''never let my passport out of my site.''

 

what about when immigration had it?

9 hours ago, Cletus said:

If I don't remember wrong, there's no law saying the money must be seasoned, it is just an Immigration order or something.

Yep, you are wrong, the money needs seasoning for 3 months.

35 minutes ago, notamember said:

''never let my passport out of my site.''

 

what about when immigration had it?

That's correct, I never did.

I accompanied the agent in their vehicle to BKK immigration and walked thru the stations never allowing my passport out of my sight.

Got it all completed in Bangkok in 45 minutes.

Nice try though, you obviously have no idea how things work.

9 hours ago, Cletus said:

Some people think it is illegal service, some others say there's nothing illegal (just a grey area) because you could borrow the money from a friend for just few days

The regulation states the money must be seasoned for 60 days prior to your first application, 90 days thereafter.

 

How can an agency acquire a Non O and a retirement extension in 3-5 days, when those of us who make a personal application to Immigration cannot.

The clue is in the fee you pay, it involves corrupt payments, which are illegal.

1 minute ago, Tanoshi said:

The regulation states the money must be seasoned for 60 days prior to your first application, 90 days thereafter.

 

How can an agency acquire a Non O and a retirement extension in 3-5 days, when those of us who make a personal application to Immigration cannot.

The clue is in the fee you pay, it involves corrupt payments, which are illegal.

They can't do that anymore, the days of 3-5 day jumps from 30 day to retirement are long gone

1 hour ago, bkk6060 said:

That's correct, I never did.

I accompanied the agent in their vehicle to BKK immigration and walked thru the stations never allowing my passport out of my sight.

Got it all completed in Bangkok in 45 minutes.

Nice try though, you obviously have no idea how things work.

to achieve this as you have stated here:

did you have your own support funds or letter and simply paid the agent to hold your hand ?

or did they support your application with the 800K as agents frequently do?

 

 

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On 7/12/2018 at 7:36 PM, bkk6060 said:

I have never been asked or forced and personally know no one who has to use an agent.

 

The requirements here are so minimal if one does not qualify they should look in the mirror.

 

If should be: "Bad guys who do not qualify for lack of planning or foresight- Good guys who know the rules and accept them and never get stiffed because they have their act together.

Sorry for the late reply.  Consider yourself and those you know as "fortunate".

 

I had EVERYTHING required, then more upon request, and it did not help.  Got shafted once when trying to "convert" to a Non-O, then again when applying for the 1-year extension.  In the latter case, they were more rude when I returned with the first batch of "extra documents" which are not officially required - because I clearly "hadn't gotten the message' from the first encounter - that the IOs I was dealing with wanted agent-money - not honesty and the proper documents.

42 minutes ago, JackThompson said:

Sorry for the late reply.  Consider yourself and those you know as "fortunate".

 

I had EVERYTHING required, then more upon request, and it did not help.  Got shafted once when trying to "convert" to a Non-O, then again when applying for the 1-year extension.  In the latter case, they were more rude when I returned with the first batch of "extra documents" which are not officially required - because I clearly "hadn't gotten the message' from the first encounter - that the IOs I was dealing with wanted agent-money - not honesty and the proper documents.

Sorry to hear that not good they do.

I hope you eventually got everything through.

I believe most IO's don't act that way.

At least from my experience.

2 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

Sorry to hear that not good they do.

I hope you eventually got everything through.

I believe most IO's don't act that way.

At least from my experience.

It depends on the office and the desk(s) within that office.  At the same office (Jomtien), I had no problems with extensions when I was a Tourist, and Retirees are reported as being treated well, also.

22 minutes ago, JackThompson said:

It depends on the office and the desk(s) within that office.  At the same office (Jomtien), I had no problems with extensions when I was a Tourist, and Retirees are reported as being treated well, also.

Yes, that is where I do mine now very efficient but busy place.

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