Hygienic chicken

[Anny2]

In the supermarkets nowadays, there is the "S-pure" chicken on which the label says that the chicken has been raised without hormones and antibiotics.

But you also  find "hygienic chicken". What does that mean exactly? Does it mean that the chicken has been sterilized after slaughter in order to kill all harmful bacteries? Does it refer to the process of killing (halal or kosher)? Is it organic? Industrial? Or does it mean like the S-Pure that it was raised with no hormones nor antibiotics? 

I am at a loss. Does anybody know the answer? 

[Get Real]

Actually you could compare it to S-pure chicken, but with the hygenic chicken they have went one step further. Here they also make all they can that is regulated after a microbiological quality assessment regarding the chickens living space and the quality level of water and food that is used to raise the chicken.

For example they use a cleaner kind of drinking water to give the chickens. At the same time as they use Battery Cage and Deep Litter Systems, that is supposed to give the chickens a better living standard throughout their short life.

[Speedo1968]

Please see link below which should answer some of your questions.

 

Having been in farming since the early 1960's in different countries much that is written in advertising can be read  in different ways.   A good example is "antibiotic free" which generally means no trace of antibiotics at slaughter.    This does not mean the animal has not been given antibiotics at some stage in its life.

 

Meat birds are unlikely to have been grown in cages, except for quail.   However, spent layers, these are chickens that were kept in cages for eating egg production and, at the end of their commercial value life are sold for meat; often found in local markets.     

 

The so called S-chicken is said to have had no antibiotics during its lifetime. See link below.

 

http://market-comms.co.th/?p=1212

[theguyfromanotherforum]

Good thread since I meant to ask the same since 2-years ago but always forget.

 

However, getreal, how can you be so sure about the process? After all, the "hygienic chicken" is from a company not so loved by many.

[Speedo1968]

2 minutes ago, theguyfromanotherforum said:

Good thread since I meant to ask the same since 2-years ago but always forget.

 

However, getreal, how can you be so sure about the process? After all, the "hygienic chicken" is from a company not so loved by many.

 

Found this quote about Betagro chicken.

S-Pure chicken is fresh, clean and flavourful without administration of antibiotics, growth hormones or growth promoters. Select high-quality, chicken breeds and raise chickens in a closed-system farming environment equipped with high technology system to help protect them from infection and parasites. With e-traceability system, customers are able to trace product details back to the farm by just scanning the code against QR Code Reader on your smart phone. It provides greater transparency to ensure safety and consistency of products.

[theguyfromanotherforum]

Yeah, I mean the other "hygienic" chicken.....not s pyre

[Speedo1968]

23 hours ago, theguyfromanotherforum said:

Yeah, I mean the other "hygienic" chicken.....not s pyre

Sorry not sure which brand you are talking about - :the "hygienic" chicken: can you please advise and where you got the information from ?   A link would be useful.

 

Please note I have worked in farming since 1961 and as a freelance consultant worldwide ( except US ) since 1983, with poultry and ducks.

 

Your earlier post mentions battery cages and deep litter, a cleaner kind of drinking water, quality level of food and water.

Commercial chickens for meat do not live in cages and deep litter would be a "NO NO" as they are grown on an "all in all out" system to prevent disease spread to the next flock.

Drinking water is always chlorinated, or should be, except when a water based vaccine is given during growing.   Birds will be vaccinated against certain diseases by law and by common sense.  

Food should be bacteria free.

The company that contracts the growers does / should be making regular spot checks for all aspects of chick quality / health and growing.

The environment inside the houses - there are many systems but it is down to the farmer to operate these properly as it is for the farmer to keep his farm disease free.

Two diseases of chicken / other birds are in Thailand - whatever the govt. says.

 

[theguyfromanotherforum]

14 minutes ago, Speedo1968 said:

Sorry not sure which brand you are talking about - :the "hygienic" chicken: 

 

 

CP

[Speedo1968]

On 7/15/2018 at 6:30 PM, theguyfromanotherforum said:

CP

Sorry for the delay in responding.

Can find nothing specific in any CP website, only generalisations about farm practices.

A few comments dating back to 2014 and in an ad about 'halal'.

Please note I neither work / or have worked for any chicken producer here in Thailand e.g. CP or Betagro.   I have acted as a consultant regarding there duck farms.

Would be helpful if you could post a link to the specific site you are quoting regarding "hygieneic" chickens.

 

[upu2]

I think it means the chickens take regular showers and go walk in all the muddy bits

[theguyfromanotherforum]

4 hours ago, Speedo1968 said:

Sorry for the delay in responding.

Can find nothing specific in any CP website, only generalisations about farm practices.

A few comments dating back to 2014 and in an ad about 'halal'.

Please note I neither work / or have worked for any chicken producer here in Thailand e.g. CP or Betagro.   I have acted as a consultant regarding there duck farms.

Would be helpful if you could post a link to the specific site you are quoting regarding "hygieneic" chickens.

 

 

It's stated on the package of the chicken they are selling. I normally buy a breast.

 

I'm back in Canada now, but I will snap a pic when I go back.

[Speedo1968]

On 7/30/2018 at 2:40 PM, upu2 said:

I think it means the chickens take regular showers and go walk in all the muddy bits

The only time a chicken is liable to get wet is on the way or once in the factory where they will have the pleasure of a chlorine bath, ( see pics / chicken shower is animated ).   A nice "hygienic" touch and on its way to you; lets hope it had time for a fresh water rinse before jumping in the bag.

 

As for ducks they like to do both, some farms even have sprinkler systems, only they tend to get taken over by the tough boys / girls - "No, honest !"

Although probably not of interest, ducks need to dip their head under the water as the key refreshing point for their immune system is their eyes.

If you like ducks Howard the Duck is an interesting film, bit like Fritz the Cat ( had he come from outer space ).

 

 

[fxe1200]

I did ask Betagro about the availability of the S-pure product line. There is no answer since four days. I assume that was a PR-stint only.

[Speedo1968]

On 8/10/2018 at 11:34 AM, fxe1200 said:

I did ask Betagro about the availability of the S-pure product line. There is no answer since four days. I assume that was a PR-stint only.

Not sure how I should read this text that appears on Betagro website regarding the S-pure product.

Perhaps it is my poor grammar or that I like to read between the lines.

For me the statement says "No antibiotics", does this mean none used or none found at slaughter ?   I ask because the statement goes on to say "no hormones used, no growth promotants used".    It does not say "No antibiotics used"

 

It could mean as other companies declared "Free of antibiotics" - this can and often does mean that antibiotics were used but their is a regulatory stopping of medication 7 - 10 days before slaughter.

 

As for other statements about closed housing etc. this is all normal practice today, and it written in to farmers contracts.

As for chicken you buy on the street this are often end-of-lay birds, i.e. those that produced eggs but are now too old.

Eggs that you buy on the street, especially duck eggs are often fertile eggs that failed a fertility check after a few days.

Tell me what you think.

No antibiotics, no hormones used, no growth promotants used, no harmful pathogens

[grollies]

Unless they are from (and clearly state on the packaging) 'NAE' No Antibiotics Ever produced chickens, antibiotic-free means the chicken's system is clear of any trace of antibiotic. It does not mean the chicken has never been administered antibiotic. The period from medication to the chicken becoming clear of trace antibiotic is 15 days.

 

Antibiotic is routinely administered for the first week of a broiler chickens life, along with multivitamins.

 

Antibiotics as a growth promotor was discontinued to comply with EU rules.

 

Chicken meat exported abroad follow these rules, however 70% of chicken produced here is for domestic consumption so, if a flock has been treated for disease within 15 days of slaughter it will go into the domestic supply.

 

Companies like Betagrow are trying to market antibiotic-free poultry domestically and this is a good thing, I eat it.

 

I don't eat street or supermarket chicken.

 

Believe it or not Thai chicken farms have better standards regarding welfare than a lot of European and US farms.

 

My wife is a chicken farmer here.