zydeco Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 2 hours ago, bristolboy said: As part of China's takeover of Hong Kong there was an treaty in place populary called "One country 2 systems." Kidnappings would be a violation of that agreement. And China doesn't care. The cat is out of the bag. President/Chairman/Son of Heaven Xi wants the big power grab during his lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonbridgebrit Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 5 hours ago, Moo 2 said: When China is going to learn not to interfere with other countries' affairs. Mr Xi, do you know that most developed western countries don't like and don't trust China. If you want to bully Canada, you will have to bully the US, Australia, the EU, some Latino countries and some African countries, in my book that end up with about the same amount of people as China. You want to fight, go for it Mr. Xi. The EU is not part of this anti-China hysteria that the Trump government is trying to stir up. And the Australian government is in no mood to fight an economic war with China. They know that China is harmless, they're not interested in harming Australia's economy just to gain some popularity with the anti-China brigade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonbridgebrit Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, zydeco said: And China doesn't care. The cat is out of the bag. President/Chairman/Son of Heaven Xi wants the big power grab during his lifetime. Xi doing a power grab ? Surely, Xi becoming Mao Zedong in China is something that is not to do with the rest of the world ? If Xi wants to butcher a load of Chinese, well, why should even one of our soldiers get killed, trying to prevent this ? If Xi invades America or Europe, fine, lets get ready for the invasion. Lets fight the Chinese soldiers when they are on our soil. Lets shoot down their combat jets when their combat jets attack us. And if Xi is taking over Laos, Cambodia and Thailand, how about Washington offers these countries loans and aid that is more generous than what Xi is offering ? Do you accept that a trade war between America and China will hurt both sides greatly ? Why have a trade war ? And targetting Huawei, and doing this, certainly harms sentiment between America and China. Huawei is a giant company, symbolic of China, and symbolic of China's presence on planet earth. Huawei is symbolic of China, any attack on Huawei is an attack on China. I think it's suicidal to attack Huawei. Edited December 10, 2018 by tonbridgebrit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, tonbridgebrit said: The EU is not part of this anti-China hysteria that the Trump government is trying to stir up. And the Australian government is in no mood to fight an economic war with China. They know that China is harmless, they're not interested in harming Australia's economy just to gain some popularity with the anti-China brigade. UPDATE 3-Europe should be wary of Huawei, EU tech official says The European Union should be worried about Huawei and other Chinese technology companies because of the risk they pose to the bloc’s industry and security, the EU’s technology chief said on Friday, echoing concerns raised elsewhere in the world... “Do we have to be worried about Huawei or other Chinese companies? Yes, I think we have to be worried about those companies,” Ansip told a news conference in Brussels, days after a top executive at Huawei was arrested in Canada as part of an investigation into alleged bank fraud. https://www.reuters.com/article/eu-china-huawei/update-3-europe-should-be-wary-of-huawei-eu-tech-official-says-idUSL8N1YC2FT Huawei banned from 5G mobile infrastructure rollout in Australia https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-23/huawei-banned-from-providing-5g-mobile-technology-australia/10155438 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Off topic deflection posts and replies have been removed. Posts about China trying to get permission to build a nuclear power plant in the UK would be another topic altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unblocktheplanet Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Canadian "diplomat" David Mulroney: "But we're going to have to live with that. That's the price of dealing with a country like China." It would be far more accurate by proximity & economy to state that this terrorist act of arresting a Canadian cirizen on her own soil is the price of being partners with the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 On 12/10/2018 at 5:43 PM, unblocktheplanet said: Canadian "diplomat" David Mulroney: "But we're going to have to live with that. That's the price of dealing with a country like China." It would be far more accurate by proximity & economy to state that this terrorist act of arresting a Canadian cirizen on her own soil is the price of being partners with the US. "terrorist act"? You mean the USA launched an extradition bomb onto Canadian soil? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpatOilWorker Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 On 12/9/2018 at 7:04 PM, ExpatOilWorker said: Within a week some innocent Canadian or American CEO working in China will be arrested on some fictive charges. We have the first bargain chip on the table: "Former Canadian diplomat detained in China" https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/former-canadian-diplomat-detained-in-china---sources-11021914 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydeco Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 On 12/10/2018 at 5:28 PM, tonbridgebrit said: Do you accept that a trade war between America and China will hurt both sides greatly ? Why have a trade war ? Yes, it will hurt both sides. It is necessary because I don't want to live in a world dominated by a totalitarian China whose racial beliefs mirror those of 1930s Japan. China also shares the same geopolitical ambitions as did 1930s Japan. But don't worry. You will get your way. Trump will cave on the tariffs, because the stock market is his god. You can tell he's getting ready to cave on trade because he just started talking about building the WALL again. And he always starts tweeting about the Wall when he's planning to surrender on one of his major campaign promises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Although two posts have been removed for Fair Use Policy violation, they can be reposted if shortened and then a link to the source. Fair Use allows a 3 sentence quote and then a link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya46 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 In the other Huawei thread : Huawei CFO Released on Bail: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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