'Delay means defeat' - Johnson commits to October Brexit deadline

[nontabury]

3 hours ago, Thakkar said:

Yes, let’s trust the guy who can’t even negotiate with his own hair, has 2 children by 2 different women while married to a third woman who he left for a fourth woman, 24 years his junior.

 

Are you critical of him,or our you just jealous.

[vogie]

It would be foolish not to have Boris as leader according to the polls.

 

[evadgib]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You should spend some time contemplating what your gut feeling wishes would lead to.

PR; Compulsory votes for life regardless of geographic location tied to our NI nos; Voting from home via a secure Govt gateway using 21st Century technology and the abolition of two party politics does it for me; All of which are within UK's grasp thanks largely to Farage; and lets not forget TWO NEW Parliaments. One of whom for the only Country in (or should I say out of) Europe that doesn't already have one ????????????????????????????

[Laughing Gravy]

2 hours ago, tomacht8 said:

I do Not care.

Just hope that the nonsense is soon over.

Anyway.

Well you care enough to keep posting so maybe send a note to yourself.

[Laughing Gravy]

1 hour ago, puipuitom said:

Give me ONE reason - except Brexit might be over forever - why the outcome of the Brexit (no) deal may NOT be presented to the British voters ?

Give me a reason why you are so interested in the UK in the EU. You seem to be obsessed with it. I have an excuse.

[Chomper Higgot]

25 minutes ago, vogie said:

It would be foolish not to have Boris as leader according to the polls.

 

 

All of a sudden you gain faith in  polls. 

[Chomper Higgot]

16 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Give me a reason why you are so interested in the UK in the EU. You seem to be obsessed with it. I have an excuse.

Perhaps poipiotom enjoys the the discussion on the subject here on TVF. 

 

I am reliably informed that as a member of TVF he does not have to have any other reason at all than that the topic is open and he wishes to comment. 

 

[edit] 

And absolutely no compulsion at  all under TVF forum rules to offer any other explanation for why he wishes to comment. 

 

 

Edited June 12, 2019 by Chomper Higgot

[vogie]

17 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

All of a sudden you gain faith in  polls. 

Lost yours?

[Jane Dough]

2 hours ago, evadgib said:

Yours too surely...?

All my money and investments are in baht. 

 

Yours in wealth.

 

Rooster

[alanrchase]

Here we go. Boris launches his campaign.

The Guardian: Tory leadership: Boris Johnson launches campaign to be next prime minister
– live news.
https://amp-theguardian-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/live/2019/jun/12/tory-leadership-boris-johnson-facing-fierce-criticism-because-of-his-huge-appeal-says-leading-supporter--live-news

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[nontabury]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Perhaps poipiotom enjoys the the discussion on the subject here on TVF. 

 

I am reliably informed that as a member of TVF he does not have to have any other reason at all than that the topic is open and he wishes to comment. 

 

[edit] 

And absolutely no compulsion at  all under TVF forum rules to offer any other explanation for why he wishes to comment. 

 

 

 

 

 No compulsion, fair enough, but why such a reluctance to answer a very simple and straightforward question. I will tell you why I’m on this topic, I’m British and the outcome of Brexit will effect me, and more importantly my children.

[evadgib]

1 hour ago, Jane Dough said:

All my money and investments are in baht. 

 

Yours in wealth.

 

Rooster

Appreciated; To be clear I'm not claiming to be the 'Flying Scotsman' i'm just pointing out that some of us are gifted with razor sharp memories which often come in handy when least expected ????

Edited June 12, 2019 by evadgib

[Chomper Higgot]

38 minutes ago, nontabury said:

 

 

 No compulsion, fair enough, but why such a reluctance to answer a very simple and straightforward question. I will tell you why I’m on this topic, I’m British and the outcome of Brexit will effect me, and more importantly my children.

As I observed, there is no compulsion to share personal information, share whatever you wish and keep to yourself whatever you wish. 

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

I wonder if Johnson is being his usual stranger to the truth when he says 'Delay means defeat'.

 

I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him and he has a history of switching sides according to what is best for Boris. 

[Chomper Higgot]

That didn't take long:

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-no-deal-boris-johnson-medicine-supply-drug-stockpile-nhs-a8955021.html

[lungbing]

12 hours ago, soalbundy said:

I wonder what he's going to say when reality kicks in.

He'll probably say, That went so well, why didn't we do it sooner"   . 

[malagateddy]

 
He is indeed a lying buffoon, with low morals. Once he choose to run for public office his private life becomes public business.

Dunno bout that so much.
The last approx 50 years saw imo much covering up of politicians " activities ".
Try.." the blair miranda ".

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[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, malagateddy said:

Dunno bout that so much.
The last approx 50 years saw imo much covering up of politicians " activities ".
Try.." the blair miranda ".

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But but .... Blair.

[alanrchase]

Dunno bout that so much.
The last approx 50 years saw imo much covering up of politicians " activities ".
Try.." the blair miranda ".

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Miranda? Soft drink isn't it? Or are you posting conspiracy theories?
Buck up, you can and should do better.

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[malagateddy]

Miranda? Soft drink isn't it? Or are you posting conspiracy theories?
Buck up, you can and should do better.

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Why not read it and see what you think.
The 70's..the channel isles..it goes from there.
Being 68 years young with a good memory thats me.

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[alanrchase]

Why not read it and see what you think.
The 70's..the channel isles..it goes from there.
Being 68 years young with a good memory thats me.

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Read what? You did not post a link. All I could find was conspiracy sites.



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[puipuitom]

3 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Give me a reason why you are so interested in the UK in the EU. You seem to be obsessed with it. I have an excuse.

Maybe because I am just intrigued how a complete nation of 65 million try to commit economic suicide for already 3 years …

[puipuitom]

2 hours ago, nontabury said:

No compulsion, fair enough, but why such a reluctance to answer a very simple and straightforward question. I will tell you why I’m on this topic, I’m British and the outcome of Brexit will effect me, and more importantly my children.

And YOU thought, all this, what is now happening on the other side of the "cod pool", does NOT influence the life of me, and my (great grand) children ?  When something in the UK goes terrible wrong - what is my opinion - then we all will suffer, despite UK companies migrating to continental EU. Remind the Greek disaster just a few years ago, and in fact still pending. A UK catastrophy will have a gigantic high influence here.

Enough reason to follow the Brexit. The world economy is not the situation as a few centuries ago. Maybe.. a non-Brit might care too... 

Edited June 12, 2019 by puipuitom

[puipuitom]

4 hours ago, vogie said:

It would be foolish not to have Boris as leader according to the polls.

 

British democracy: the one with the most votes gets all in that barony ( sorry, nowadys: constituency), and the rest.. nothing.

So, with 5 nearly equal parties, and Boris the Liar 20,1% being the highest, he ( his fellows) will win that seat. Get 50% + 1 of all seats, and.. you have the governement with just over 10% of the votes.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/06/11/boris-johnson-course-140-seat-majority-general-election-becomes/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9276304/boris-johnson-tory-leadership-election-poll-commons/

and several other British newspapers.

[candide]

15 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

Maybe because I am just intrigued how a complete nation of 65 million try to commit economic suicide for already 3 years …

 

I agree. It's a fascinating subject. Actually, it's much more than an economic issue. It reveals all the fault lines in this country. It's like a scalpel.

In order to avoid any misunderstanding, I am not particularly rejoicing about it. I hope this country gets united again but I have strong doubts about it

[vogie]

37 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

Maybe because I am just intrigued how a complete nation of 65 million try to commit economic suicide for already 3 years …

 

I too am intrigued how you as one person knows much more than 65 million British people or certainly the majority of the voting public, there is a word to describe it, come on, help me out here here, what is it?

[puipuitom]

43 minutes ago, vogie said:

I too am intrigued how you as one person knows much more than 65 million British people or certainly the majority of the voting public, there is a word to describe it, come on, help me out here here, what is it?

Maybe not so clear: on TVF members are able to mention THEIR OPINION. 

I never said, I know all better as the 65 million British. Maybe I am better in SEARCHING info on Internet as quite some British ?

But looking at last referendum in 2016: 48,11 % had the some opinion as me: Brexit is NOT wise, better 'Remain". Just a 51,88 % wanted to "Leave", without making a choice, under which conditions and what the consequences might be. Till now, 3 years later: no majority for any of the alternatives,

During the election for the EU parliament, the Brexit part got a 40%, the others were split over parties, which reject Brexit, or.. among themselves, cannot come to a conclusion. Also NOT MY invention, just copy for a British publication. see https://www.businessinsider.sg/european-election-results-uk-regrets-brexit-votes-remain-2019-5/ 

Maybe some ideas: https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/WP_SITEURL/blogs/peter-kellner/european-election-results-the-death-knell-for-britains-two-party-system 

Even in last bye-election in Peterborough, the Brexit party did not win the seat, but Labour, see  https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48532869 ( and the rest .. got nothing, these votes.. evaporated ) 

 

Looking to his man: I presume he is NOT THE ONLY ONE who regret he ever backed Brexit.

Wawrzyniak, a former chef at Noma in Copenhagen who has worked in Britain for 15 years and established his own UK restaurants, originally backed Brexit on the basis that it would make it easier for restaurants to select British produce. But he has changed his mind and says he will ultimately refuse to apply to live in the country he now calls home. ( but for many Brits.. as welcome as .. the Plague" ).

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/may/18/uk-based-poles-call-for-revolt-against-having-to-apply-for-settled-status?utm_term=RWRpdG9yaWFsX0d1YXJkaWFuVG9kYXlVS19XZWVrZW5kLTE5MDUxOA%3D%3D&utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=GuardianTodayUK&CMP=GTUK_email

Again, not solely ME, who knows this all better, but.. read and learn + copy

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2018/12/11/does-britain-regret-brexit-crisis-confusion-leaves-country-even-more-divided/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.946189672b9c

https://www.businessinsider.nl/yougov-poll-brexit-regret-remain-second-referendum-2019-2/?international=true&r=US  

https://www.businessinsider.nl/poll-majority-of-british-people-regret-voting-for-brexit-2018-4/?international=true&r=US  

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/25/protest-vote-regret-voting-leave-brexit

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-referendum-millions-leave-voters-best-for-britain-no-deal-theresa-may-conservative-government-a8521346.html

[vogie]

3 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

Maybe not so clear: on TVF members are able to mention THEIR OPINION. 

I never said, I know all better as the 65 million British. Maybe I am better in SEARCHING info on Internet as quite some British ?

But looking at last referendum in 2016: 48,11 % had the some opinion as me: Brexit is NOT wise, better 'Remain". Just a 51,88 % wanted to "Leave", without making a choice, under which conditions and what the consequences might be. Till now, 3 years later: no majority for any of the alternatives,

During the election for the EU parliament, the Brexit part got a 40%, the others were split over parties, which reject Brexit, or.. among themselves, cannot come to a conclusion. Also NOT MY invention, just copy for a British publication. see https://www.businessinsider.sg/european-election-results-uk-regrets-brexit-votes-remain-2019-5/ 

Maybe some ideas: https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/WP_SITEURL/blogs/peter-kellner/european-election-results-the-death-knell-for-britains-two-party-system 

Even in last bye-election in Peterborough, the Brexit party did not win the seat, but Labour, see  https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48532869 ( and the rest .. got nothing, these votes.. evaporated ) 

 

Looking to his man: I presume he is NOT THE ONLY ONE who regret he ever backed Brexit.

Wawrzyniak, a former chef at Noma in Copenhagen who has worked in Britain for 15 years and established his own UK restaurants, originally backed Brexit on the basis that it would make it easier for restaurants to select British produce. But he has changed his mind and says he will ultimately refuse to apply to live in the country he now calls home. ( but for many Brits.. as welcome as .. the Plague" ).

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/may/18/uk-based-poles-call-for-revolt-against-having-to-apply-for-settled-status?utm_term=RWRpdG9yaWFsX0d1YXJkaWFuVG9kYXlVS19XZWVrZW5kLTE5MDUxOA%3D%3D&utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=GuardianTodayUK&CMP=GTUK_email

 

Again, not solely ME, who knows this all better, but.. read and learn + copy

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2018/12/11/does-britain-regret-brexit-crisis-confusion-leaves-country-even-more-divided/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.946189672b9c

https://www.businessinsider.nl/yougov-poll-brexit-regret-remain-second-referendum-2019-2/?international=true&r=US  

https://www.businessinsider.nl/poll-majority-of-british-people-regret-voting-for-brexit-2018-4/?international=true&r=US  

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/25/protest-vote-regret-voting-leave-brexit

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-referendum-millions-leave-voters-best-for-britain-no-deal-theresa-may-conservative-government-a8521346.html

Nobody is doubting your ability about being better than anybody else at anything. Just because you have found something on the internet that fits with your agenda, doesn't necessary mean it will fit with everybody elses.

Why are you bringing the European elections into it, I could say Labour didn't win the Peterborough by-election because the Brexit party and the Conservatives amassed more votes. Can you see what nonsense you are peddling.

Something else intrigues me, a lot of Eumainers on here shout and scream about the UK being a very bad influence on the EU, can't wait to see the back of us, why are we not gone already and then go write reams and reams of pages explaining to us why we shouldn't leave, you can see how this might confuse some people.

[CG1 Blue]

2 hours ago, puipuitom said:

And YOU thought, all this, what is now happening on the other side of the "cod pool", does NOT influence the life of me, and my (great grand) children ?  When something in the UK goes terrible wrong - what is my opinion - then we all will suffer, despite UK companies migrating to continental EU. Remind the Greek disaster just a few years ago, and in fact still pending. A UK catastrophy will have a gigantic high influence here.

Enough reason to follow the Brexit. The world economy is not the situation as a few centuries ago. Maybe.. a non-Brit might care too... 

I totally agree that the British economy is important on an EU and a global scale. This is why it's surprising when the non-Brit EU participants on here are so dismissive of the UK, talking as though the UK has no bargaining power, and telling us to just get on with it. 

 

It is in everyone's interest for the UK to leave the EU in an orderly manner with a fair deal.  But if the EU refuse to change their awful WA, we should all work toward an orderly exit without that WA. 

Edited June 12, 2019 by CG1 Blue

[puipuitom]

36 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

I totally agree that the British economy is important on an EU and a global scale. This is why it's surprising when the non-Brit EU participants on here are so dismissive of the UK, talking as though the UK has no bargaining power, and telling us to just get on with it. 

 

It is in everyone's interest for the UK to leave the EU in an orderly manner with a fair deal.  But if the EU refuse to change their awful WA, we should all work toward an orderly exit without that WA. 

Why the EU should give the UK a better deal as May already got ? It is the UK what wants to leave the EU, not the opposite. The UK still has the option of no deal. 

And for sure, with 65 million consumers behind , you will get a MUCH BETTER deal as the EU with 525 million. For sure, the EU, will NEVER insist to have at least the same deal as the new UK on its own.  Budgens Stores Ltd, Fulton's Foods also can get better deals as.. Aldi, Sainsbury, Tesco, etc.

Edited June 12, 2019 by puipuitom