Coronavirus poses new challenge to Trump's re-election bid

[JHolmesJr]

13 hours ago, cmarshall said:

The question is whether the Dems can make the truth stick in the face of the powerful Republican spin machine.  

 

You know what they are saying about Joe Biden?

 

"He puts the 'Dem' in Dementia"

[Sujo]

4 hours ago, looking on the bright side said:

 Wishful thinking that coronavirus poses a challenge to Trump's re-election. A good decision to stop flights from EU countries. EU countries haven't responded adequately to the covid19 situation, can't believe that what is happening in Italy is really happening. Russia has closed the borders with China as soon as the crisis has started , proper thing to do. Now US is taking the right measures .

Trump is doing fine . And Trump haters are desperately waiting for something to happen and ruin his presidency. But rise of traditionalism in US is unstoppable. Globalism not popular anymore.

He hasnt stopped anything from eu countries. Only from shengen countries.

[looking on the bright side]

To Sujo :EU countries are European Union countries . Not all of countries in Europe belong to EU as you should know. EU countries are shengen countries. 

[metisdead]

A post using a Twitter post has been removed as this is a forum, not a Twitter site. 

[albertik]

20 hours ago, Sujo said:

Russia not a hoax.

Ukraine is a hoax for biden.

He was impeached.

Covid is not a hoax.

And the point was...…….none of the above succeeded in removing from office. 

[lannarebirth]

7 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:

Nothing like the deaths of your fellow Americans to helpguide the Democratic party into power.

 

God save the USA if that happens.

 

The public's perception that there have been too many needless deaths during a president's tenure, usually from war, has been the catalyst for many changes of the party in power, Democrat and Republican alike. Are you old enough to remember the Chicago riots and Nixon's "Southern strategy"?

[Nyezhov]

 

13 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:

The public's perception that there have been too many needless deaths during a president's tenure, usually from war, has been the catalyst for many changes of the party in power, Democrat and Republican alike. Are you old enough to remember the Chicago riots and Nixon's "Southern strategy"?

I dont recall folks cheering for more American deaths. 

[lannarebirth]

14 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:

 

I dont recall folks cheering for more American deaths. 

 

I don't recall seeing folks cheering for more American deaths. On the contrary, I see people calling for less duplicity and more action to PREVENT American deaths.. Maybe it's just your perception

[Nyezhov]

8 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:

 

I don't recall seeing folks cheering for more American deaths. On the contrary, I see people calling for less duplicity and more action to PREVENT American deaths.. Maybe it's just your perception

Perception is reality. Anyway, you should probably put me on your ignore list, please. That way you wont have to respond to me any more.

[geriatrickid]

On 3/12/2020 at 10:00 PM, Boon Mee said:

Exactly. 

As if there's an option? 

Joe Biden? 

Hillary Clinton? 

These Doom-merchants think that this Wuhan Flu is going to bring Trump down? 555 

 

MAGA 

I don't believe that either Biden or Clinton would have bungled this as badly as Trump.

Biden and Clinton are willing to listen to people who have the expertise. Trump treats everything like a real estate deal. Sometimes that approach works, but it  isn't appropriate for a pandemic.

[heybruce]

38 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:

Perception is reality. Anyway, you should probably put me on your ignore list, please. That way you wont have to respond to me any more.

Perception is reality?  Wow!  I always assumed I was watching magicians performing clever slight-of-hand tricks; I didn't know they were really magic.

[spidermike007]

When questioned by a reporter about why the administration closed the pandemic office of the CDC, and withdrew $30,000,000 in funding for it, in June of 2018, despite warnings from epidemiologists that a pandemic like this one could be right around the corner, he accused the reporter of asking a "nasty question", and said he takes no responsibility for that. He said something rather vague about the administration inheriting some issues, and then went on to say he had no personal knowledge of that happening, and would have to ask his staff why they did that. Taking responsibility for tragic errors is what real men do. Boys and juveniles deflect, pass blame, and point fingers.

 

I have been saying for three years now, that Trump is one of the most dangerous men in the world. He is certainly proving that theory lately. 

 

In fact, all of Trump’s budget proposals have called for cuts to CDC funding, but Congress has intervened each time by passing spending bills with year-over-year increases for the CDC that Trump then signed into law. In 2018, Trump administration eliminated the position of senior director for global health security and biodefense as part of a broader downsizing of the NSC spearheaded by then-National Security Adviser John Bolton. Earlier this month, 27 Democratic senators sent a letter to current National Security Adviser Robert O’Brien urging him to reinstate the position and asking him to clarify how the White House plans to handle global health security threats.

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-cut-cdcs-budget-democrats-claim-analysis/story?id=69233170

 

The cuts started in 2018, as the White House focused on eliminating fundingto Obama-era disease security programs. In March of that year, Rear Adm. Timothy Ziemer, whose job it was to lead the U.S. response in the event of a pandemic, abruptly left the administration and his global health security team was disbanded. That same year, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) was forced to slash its efforts to prevent global disease outbreak by 80% as its funding for the program began to run out. The agency, at the time, opted to focus on 10 priority countries and scale back in others, including China. Also cut was the Complex Crises Fund, a $30 million emergency response pool that was at the secretary of state’s disposal to deploy disease experts and others in the event of a crisis. (The fund was created by former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.)

 

https://fortune.com/2020/02/26/coronavirus-covid-19-cdc-budget-cuts-us-trump/

 

It is impossible that Trump was not involved in these decisions. Just another lie. He just assumes we are not paying attention, and that required fealty will prevent fact checking. 

[JustAnotherHun]

6 hours ago, looking on the bright side said:

To Sujo :EU countries are European Union countries . Not all of countries in Europe belong to EU as you should know. EU countries are shengen countries. 

Shengen is more than EU

[Phoenix Rising]

4 hours ago, Nyezhov said:

Perception is reality. Anyway, you should probably put me on your ignore list, please. That way you wont have to respond to me any more.

Why do you keep asking posters to be put on their ignore list? What's the point of participating in a forum like TVF if you go ahead and ignore those who disagree with you?

Surely there must be some Trump fanboy forum where you would be more comfortable. How about this echo chamber for you?:

 

https://www.facebook.com/PresidentDonaldTrumpFanClub/

 

[J Town]

50 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

I have been saying for three years now, that Trump is one of the most dangerous men in the world. He is certainly proving that theory lately. 

There was a time when it was a given that the US would lead in just about every global catastrophe. Trump has removed that thought and made America a pariah, an oligarchic idiocracy.

[spidermike007]

8 minutes ago, J Town said:

There was a time when it was a given that the US would lead in just about every global catastrophe. Trump has removed that thought and made America a pariah, an oligarchic idiocracy.

Correct. America is the new Guatemala. 

[Phoenix Rising]

1 hour ago, J Town said:

There was a time when it was a given that the US would lead in just about every global catastrophe.

Then Trump got elected which lead to a global catastrophe.

[J Town]

23 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Then Trump got elected which lead to a global catastrophe.

Trump is DIRECTLY responsible! Not for the virus itself but for its massive spread which could have been curtailed significantly if not for his INTENTIONALLY ignorant decisions.

[UbonThani]

2 hours ago, J Town said:

Trump is DIRECTLY responsible! Not for the virus itself but for its massive spread which could have been curtailed significantly if not for his INTENTIONALLY ignorant decisions.

Wrong. Obama is more to blame for virus deaths.

[Phoenix Rising]

2 hours ago, UbonThani said:

Wrong. Obama is more to blame for virus deaths.

It's good to see that at least some of the Trump supporters still have a sense of humor. Well done and keep it up!

[Crazy Alex]

On 3/12/2020 at 7:44 PM, heybruce said:

Trump set us up for failure on this a long time ago:

 

" In 2018, the Trump administration fired the government’s entire pandemic response chain of command, including the White House management infrastructure. In numerous phone calls and emails with key agencies across the U.S. government, the only consistent response I encountered was distressed confusion. If the United States still has a clear chain of command for pandemic response, the White House urgently needs to clarify what it is—not just for the public but for the government itself, which largely finds itself in the dark."   https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/31/coronavirus-china-trump-united-states-public-health-emergency-response/

Yes, I agree that you do not know if Trump has a clear chain of command for a pandemic response. And of course, simply throwing money at something doesn't mean there is preparedness, or does lack of throwing money at something mean there is not. I'm sure you understand this- though I'm not so certain about the author of the hit piece who is clearly suffering from you-know-what.