12 minutes ago, grain said:

Like others here I'll be happy to accept AZ but consider sinovac a total waste of time

There are some grounds for preferring AZ over Sinovac but it is pure ignorance to describe Sinovac as a "waste of time." Sinovac will give you very significant protection against hospitalization, serious illness and death.It's not a guarantee but then no vaccines are. I'm not going to quote efficacy percentages because they are often bandied about without their significance being understood.The information can be easily researched but stick to reputable sources (WHO,US/UK government sites, Lancet and the like)

 

If you are unvaccinated and are in a risk category (whether because of age, obesity or underlying condition) there should be no hesitation in getting the Sinovac jab.If you don't fall into these categories or can quickly obtain a different preferred vaccine, that's fine.

 

Sorry to be so blunt but your attitude to Sinovac is uninformed and dangerously misleading.The fact that ignorance is shared by many others is neither here nor there.

 

 

1 hour ago, jayboy said:

There are some grounds for preferring AZ over Sinovac but it is pure ignorance to describe Sinovac as a "waste of time." Sinovac will give you very significant protection against hospitalization, serious illness and death.It's not a guarantee but then no vaccines are. I'm not going to quote efficacy percentages because they are often bandied about without their significance being understood.The information can be easily researched but stick to reputable sources (WHO,US/UK government sites, Lancet and the like)

 

If you are unvaccinated and are in a risk category (whether because of age, obesity or underlying condition) there should be no hesitation in getting the Sinovac jab.If you don't fall into these categories or can quickly obtain a different preferred vaccine, that's fine.

 

Sorry to be so blunt but your attitude to Sinovac is uninformed and dangerously misleading.The fact that ignorance is shared by many others is neither here nor there.

 

 

OK point taken. How about Sinopharm compared to Sinovac? I've read Sinopharm offers superior efficacy. And as I live in the NE, in your opinion is it worth taking a risk and going to BKK for a Sinopharm vax next week.

2 hours ago, jayboy said:

There are some grounds for preferring AZ over Sinovac but it is pure ignorance to describe Sinovac as a "waste of time." Sinovac will give you very significant protection against hospitalization, serious illness and death.It's not a guarantee but then no vaccines are. I'm not going to quote efficacy percentages because they are often bandied about without their significance being understood.The information can be easily researched but stick to reputable sources (WHO,US/UK government sites, Lancet and the like)

 

If you are unvaccinated and are in a risk category (whether because of age, obesity or underlying condition) there should be no hesitation in getting the Sinovac jab.If you don't fall into these categories or can quickly obtain a different preferred vaccine, that's fine.

 

Sorry to be so blunt but your attitude to Sinovac is uninformed and dangerously misleading.The fact that ignorance is shared by many others is neither here nor there.

 

 

It's a fact of life that certain people just want to parrot the general, usually befuddled view perpetuated by the badly informed mass. They don't want to do their own research (too lazy or too ignorant or both) and rely on the most conservative, often misleading point of view. No amount of talking till the cows come home will change their mind, until something happens to them personally and (hopefully) will open their eye finally.

 

There's not much the rest of us can do ("you can take the horse to the water but you can not make it drink") for these folks. Right now in the USA, 90 plus percent of newly infected folks are unvaccinated. If that doesn't send a message to those who hesitate (whether outright refusing vaccines, or pulling their hair out over which one is "best,") nothing will. All the more for the rest of us to hurry up and get vaxxed, because these anti-vaxxers are ready agents of transmission to the community at large, past, present and future,  especially when our guards are down (again look at what is happening in the USA, all 50 states have their infection rate up, way up.)

1 hour ago, grain said:

OK point taken. How about Sinopharm compared to Sinovac? I've read Sinopharm offers superior efficacy. And as I live in the NE, in your opinion is it worth taking a risk and going to BKK for a Sinopharm vax next week.

I don't have the specialized knowledge to do a comparison or to offer an opinion but from what I have read both Sinopharm and Snovac have acceptable efficacy and are approved by the WHO.You should be able to get detailed background online.Whether it's worth going to Bangkok depends on your age/health profile and whether there are any other realistic vaccination options near by that can be secured immediately.Also you need to be sure the Bangkok option is real so you don't have a wasted journey.But the situation in Thailand is dicey so I think the best course is to get whatever vaccine is on offer.

 

 

8 minutes ago, jayboy said:

I don't have the specialized knowledge to do a comparison or to offer an opinion but from what I have read both Sinopharm and Snovac have acceptable efficacy and are approved by the WHO.You should be able to get detailed background online.Whether it's worth going to Bangkok depends on your age/health profile and whether there are any other realistic vaccination options near by that can be secured immediately.Also you need to be sure the Bangkok option is real so you don't have a wasted journey.But the situation in Thailand is dicey so I think the best course is to get whatever vaccine is on offer.

 

 

I've confirmed now for a shot of the Chulabporn Sinopharm at CAT next Thur. There's nothing at all for me here in Nakorn Ratchasima, I've approached a couple of venues and it's Thais only. So a jab in the arm is worth 2 in the bush. Thanks for the info you've given me, I agree the best course is to get whatever vaccine is on offer.

17 hours ago, grain said:

I've confirmed now for a shot of the Chulabporn Sinopharm at CAT next Thur. There's nothing at all for me here in Nakorn Ratchasima, I've approached a couple of venues and it's Thais only. So a jab in the arm is worth 2 in the bush. Thanks for the info you've given me, I agree the best course is to get whatever vaccine is on offer.

Not sticking my nose in, but if you are driving down please allow for adverse reaction to the injection.

 

My daughter-in-law (Thai) took 36 hours to recover.

 

Some folks get no reaction, hopefully, you may be one of them.

 

But if you are driving it does no harm to have a Plan B.

 

Good luck.

 

A concerned citizen

On 7/18/2021 at 10:28 AM, ThaiPauly said:

Not sticking my nose in, but if you are driving down please allow for adverse reaction to the injection.

 

My daughter-in-law (Thai) took 36 hours to recover.

 

Some folks get no reaction, hopefully, you may be one of them.

 

But if you are driving it does no harm to have a Plan B.

 

Good luck.

 

A concerned citizen

Thanks for your concern. My Thai wife was coming with me, purely for that reason, so if I feel off on the drive home, she can take the wheel. I remember having my only flu shot in Australia 3 years ago and it knocked me for 6.

 

Anyway, this morning I cancelled my appointment for the vax at CAT next Thur. I'm concerned about going into BKK at this time, I live in a very isolated, small farming village and don't mix with anyone, so I'm in a pretty safe place, going into BKK right at this time just seems too risky. There's also the possibility of police checks on the way back, returning home, coming from Bangkok, I could well be sent to a hospital for covid test, or ordered into quarantine. So I decided to sit still for now. I do have an alternative appointment at Med-Park on August 7, so I'll reconsider the situation early August.

I received a Sinovac jab June 6 at Phaya Thai 2 hospital. Yesterday I got an AZ jab at SCG. My 2nd Sinovac jab is scheduled for tomorrow. I will pass on the 2nd Sinovac jab. The NHSO paperwork they gave me yesterday shows both doses, however they now call Sinovac CoronaVac.