Quite interesting, since you often label people, and of course you get labels trown back at you, thats the rhythm on the forum, where things escalates. So I asked AI about my claim above, and you can read for yourself what AI answer about psychological traits, if I can say so. Because be sure there is many different types here, but you claim we are, and not you, thats the interesting part of it. You always turn the table, and your mood and behaviour goes from one end to another quite rapidly, and you get tied up on the forum writing long posts. I have to go, because I am on my way out the door, so take your time. No rush, and WAN it! Your age? I base that uppon your pattern here, you seems a bit young, but can be you never grew up yet ;-) Just a joke okay, The strongest science-backed version is this: people with higher narcissistic traits often have limited self-insight in some ways, but they are not necessarily completely unaware of how they come across. A classic study on narcissism found evidence against a simple “they have no idea” view: highly narcissistic people often do know that others may see them as arrogant or narcissistic, even while they still maintain inflated self-views. So the claim “a narcissist does not know” is too absolute. A more accurate statement is: narcissistic people may have distorted self-awareness and poor insight, especially about the impact of their behavior, but they can still recognize some of their own narcissistic traits or understand that others see them negatively. On the “psychopath” part, science is also more nuanced than your sentence suggests. “Psychopath” is not the main formal diagnosis used in DSM-5-TR; clinicians more commonly diagnose antisocial personality disorder, while “psychopathy” is used more as a research construct. NPD and antisocial traits also overlap in some features such as lack of empathy and superficial charm. Research on psychopathy suggests reduced emotional awareness is common in some people with psychopathic traits, but not uniformly. One study found lower emotional awareness mainly in people with higher psychopathic traits plus early adversity and high negative affect, while others with more “primary” psychopathic traits could still show relatively intact emotional awareness. That means the claim “a psychopath knows, but a narcissist doesn’t” is not well supported as a general rule. A scientifically safer phrasing would be: “Research suggests that people with strong narcissistic traits may have distorted self-awareness and limited insight into the impact of their behavior, but they are not necessarily unaware of how others see them.” And if you want a sharper version that still stays grounded: “Science does not support the simple idea that narcissists are unaware while psychopaths are aware; in both cases, insight can be partial, selective, and inconsistent.”
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