Grower ? List of what's needed to grow, post your list !

[bangkokairportlink]

hello, can you post a list with links if possible of what is the best choice to start growing indoor in a condo room ?

the most expensive being the light, can you tell me what brand and how much it costs ?

 

Thank you for your recommendations !

[BritManToo]

 

[Mr Meeseeks]

How much room you got for your grow? 

[chalawaan]

As a former clandestine open air own-use grower couple, know that they have solved many problems that forced us to grow to begin with, it was safer in secret, rather than relying on flaky underworld suppliers, and now the most obvious other fix being that quality weed will be dropping in price here soon as the market saturates.

Meanwhile indoors costs a fortune in energy alone, you need good lights And good fans, Also need to hide if renting alone as for you its still illegal to grow without a permit!

its time consuming, tricky, you can easily kill or sicken your own weed, and then...

you start over!

So unless youre doing it for pure pleasure of growing, and you have deep pockets, just spend the time and money enjoying the countless varieties that will be everywhere in a matter of months. 

As with many topics of advice sought here not expat specific, you're far better just googling this info anyway.

Edited June 24, 2022 by chalawaan

[wombat]

3 hours ago, chalawaan said:

you're far better just googling this info anyway.

Exactly...

With all the info available online combined with you must have been living under a bridge with no print media available ...my spidey sense puts all these  "How To" topics on weed as troll posts.

 

[BritManToo]

6 hours ago, chalawaan said:

As with many topics of advice sought here not expat specific, you're far better just googling this info anyway.

I spent a lot of time searching the internet for information on how to grow.

Plenty of advice for those growing in the USA, nothing for anyone trying to grow in Thailand.

Equipment, fertiliser, soils used in the USA just not available here.

Weather in California totally different, all the advice available is for people growing in a temperate climate. 

 

As for costs, around 7k-8kbht for lights and a 2ft x 4ft tent.

Takes about 20-30mins a day to prep nutrients and water the plants.

Energy costs, 3-4 units/day 16bht tops, 1,800bht total for 6-8oz of dried flower.

Enjoy paying 700bht/gm from a shop,

Even at 300bht/gm ...... 6gm Vs 6oz.

 

You get lots of comments from people that have never grown anything, anywhere.

Post a photo of your last grow ..............

Edited June 24, 2022 by BritManToo

[Bert got kinky]

2 hours ago, wombat said:

Exactly...

With all the info available online combined with you must have been living under a bridge with no print media available ...my spidey sense puts all these  "How To" topics on weed as troll posts.

 

 

While I agree that there is an immense amount of information available on the www, I don't agree with your thoughts on the 'how to' guides that have been posted on here.

BritManToo spent a long time preparing those posts, he did not need to, he already knows how to grow, he was kindly passing on his experiences with growing in Thailand.

He also spent his own time answering plenty of questions, which just shows that there were plenty of other forum members interested in what he was saying.

 

I have no idea what your past with BritManToo is but calling someone a troll for simply offering free advice does indicate that there are issues and you are out of line in this instance.

 

[MrMuddle]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

I spent a lot of time searching the internet for information on how to grow.

Plenty of advice for those growing in the USA, nothing for anyone trying to grow in Thailand.

Equipment, fertiliser, soils used in the USA just not available here.

Weather in California totally different, all the advice available is for people growing in a temperate climate. 

 

As for costs, around 7k-8kbht for lights and a 2ft x 4ft tent.

Takes about 20-30mins a day to prep nutrients and water the plants.

Energy costs, 3-4 units/day 16bht tops, 1,800bht total for 6-8oz of dried flower.

Enjoy paying 700bht/gm from a shop,

Even at 300bht/gm ...... 6gm Vs 6oz.

 

You get lots of comments from people that have never grown anything, anywhere.

Post a photo of your last grow ..............

Plus if you grow your own, you know for a fact it hasn't been polluted with all kinds of nasty chemicals!

 

[cleopatra2]

3 hours ago, MrMuddle said:

Plus if you grow your own, you know for a fact it hasn't been polluted with all kinds of nasty chemicals!

 

Have you conduct.ed a chemical analysis of the water you intend to use If not is the water going to be filtered or reverse osmosis .

Well and tap water will contain many impurities, along with the inert materials in fertilizaers.

[MrMuddle]

2 hours ago, cleopatra2 said:

Have you conduct.ed a chemical analysis of the water you intend to use If not is the water going to be filtered or reverse osmosis .

Well and tap water will contain many impurities, along with the inert materials in fertilizaers.

I use bottled drinking water.

[rice555]

rainwater. I'm just along for the ride.

[rice555]

I find that these small cubes from Marko work well for starting seed. I make 6 small dranage holes, I use a Bt. 120. electric soldering for making the holes. I also use coir as

a starting substrate.

Bags of untreated coir I treat all coir I use. As from posts from others in the past on TV-Farming Forum, just because it says "Treated", doesn't mean it's treated. "Always Test".

Bt. 100. per bag.

If your doing hydro, I would try(for ease of use) the premix liquid from Accent Hydro TH.

You can google them. They are in BKK. 

 It's a two part mix (A-B) Grow and they have a Bloom A-B. They have several sizes, the small one is about Bt. 500. I think?

The main thing about the nute's is that in have all the micro's and other salts that plants

need to grow.

The mixing info is easy to adapt to for the size of your nute storage(jug/barrel/tank), I use

the blue barrels pictured in my last post for water catchment.

Till you learn about growing hydro, keep good notes. If you have small storage for nute's,

get a 10/20cc syringe, one for A and B to measure out into the water. Always go low on the

A-B, you can add more if needed, you can't add more water to a small jug.

Check what the pH of your water source, I'm using rain water, I don't check pH.

Growing hydro in LOS almost 22 years now. Never had a pH meter, just check with a aquarium test kit(Bt.100).  I would recommend you get an EC meter, the last ones I got on

AliX, think around U$ 8., I got 3, and check them against each other. I still use my old meter

from Accent. Blue Lab also make a good one.($$).

I weigh and mix my own nute's, I would use 1/2 strength of my regular EC 2.1 to EC 2.8 for

Veggie's.

With the A-B from from Accent Hydro, I would try EC 1.3 to EC 1.7 and see how they respond.

Maybe start a few Tom's at the same time to help learn hydro. It's not all donkey dicks and

2 KG. plants from the start, there's a learning curve. Go through posts on RUI on the net for

more knowledgeable people than me.

The treatment for coir, calcium nitrate/water at EC 2.0 for a day, rinse good and plant.

I make a 3 part(A-B-C) for general nute's . 4 part with some.plants. The blue jugs are 20L.

Always keep your nute's out of the sun, store in the shade.

[rice555]

I always get it backwards, it's "RIU"., not RUI.

LOS pot news is listed there under World Pot News and 

a LOS grower showing his grow.

Some of the RIU Forum Topics.

<deleted>/EC meters and what I use for pH.

rice555

[rice555]

A member DM'ed me about RIIU's  www.   

it's  www.rollitup.org

[BritManToo]

2 hours ago, rice555 said:

A member DM'ed me about RIIU's  www.   

it's  www.rollitup.org

Rollitup forum are based in the USA, not really helpful for growers in Thailand as both the weather and available supplies are different, and/or unaffordable. 

 

Fox farm nutrients in Thailand 2,000bht for 750ml. Neem oil unavailable. Suitable organic soils unavailable. 

 

The list is endless. 

Edited June 27, 2022 by BritManToo

[rice555]

5555555555

 

 

Light color and their K as a quick guide.

LED Gardner Forum(will be closing in July) has guides for building LED

strip lighting. Bridgelux. and Samsung, below is the wiring guide. They

give you a light size and strip choice. With your choice, they have a parts

list for the DIY build. You can buy from what ever store you want. 

My Bridgelux Gen 3  4000K and Cutter Electronic from down under, with

2000K Nicha chips.. The Bridgelux strips are from DigiKey, Free shipping

on orders over U$50.  Cutter does high end strips and boards. Shipping

from OZ to LOS is high.

The sheet aluminum and the L-angle aluminum I got close to The Mall Korat.

All the other parts are from Alibaba and Ali-X.

rice555 

 

 

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, rice555 said:

The Bridgelux strips are from DigiKey, Free shipping

on orders over U$50.  Cutter does high end strips and boards. Shipping

from OZ to LOS is high.

Or you could just buy a HLG240 + Quantum board ready built from Lazada for 5,000bht.

(I have 2 and they work very well)

Edited June 27, 2022 by BritManToo

[bangkokairportlink]

On 6/24/2022 at 8:51 PM, Mr Meeseeks said:

How much room you got for your grow? 

can I do 1mx2m ?

 

 

[bangkokairportlink]

On 6/25/2022 at 6:44 AM, BritManToo said:

I spent a lot of time searching the internet for information on how to grow.

Plenty of advice for those growing in the USA, nothing for anyone trying to grow in Thailand.

Equipment, fertiliser, soils used in the USA just not available here.

Weather in California totally different, all the advice available is for people growing in a temperate climate. 

 

As for costs, around 7k-8kbht for lights and a 2ft x 4ft tent.

Takes about 20-30mins a day to prep nutrients and water the plants.

Energy costs, 3-4 units/day 16bht tops, 1,800bht total for 6-8oz of dried flower.

Enjoy paying 700bht/gm from a shop,

Even at 300bht/gm ...... 6gm Vs 6oz.

 

You get lots of comments from people that have never grown anything, anywhere.

Post a photo of your last grow ..............

 

 

Thank you, do you mean that electricity for 20 hours lamps only cost 1800 thb / month ?

 

thanks again

[bangkokairportlink]

On 6/25/2022 at 12:01 PM, cleopatra2 said:

Have you conduct.ed a chemical analysis of the water you intend to use If not is the water going to be filtered or reverse osmosis .

Well and tap water will contain many impurities, along with the inert materials in fertilizaers.

so better use the reverse osmosis machine of the building ? I drink it since years without ever being sick.

 

 

[bangkokairportlink]

4 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Or you could just buy a HLG240 + Quantum board ready built from Lazada for 5,000bht.

(I have 2 and they work very well)

 

hello, nothing cheaper than 5000 works well ?

how long have you been using your lights ?

 

 

[BritManToo]

3 minutes ago, bangkokairportlink said:

so better use the reverse osmosis machine of the building ? I drink it since years without ever being sick.

 

 

Tapwater is fine. 

[BritManToo]

2 minutes ago, bangkokairportlink said:

 

hello, nothing cheaper than 5000 works well ?

how long have you been using your lights ?

 

 

Anything less is just wasting your money. Plenty of cheap scam lights for sale, they just can't grow anything. My lights have had 6 months use so far, just started using one again this week. 

Edited June 28, 2022 by BritManToo

[malone99]

can everyone register for cannabis growing?

[bangkokairportlink]

On 6/28/2022 at 3:39 PM, malone99 said:

can everyone register for cannabis growing?

it's only Thai, but who cares anyway ?

 

 

 

[bangkokairportlink]

Where do you get the best seed for the price please ? I guess that we can only trust seeds from EU or US ?

anybody has good results with Thai seeds ?

[Mr Meeseeks]

1 hour ago, bangkokairportlink said:

Where do you get the best seed for the price please ? I guess that we can only trust seeds from EU or US ?

anybody has good results with Thai seeds ?

Order your seeds from Attitude Seedbank. They post with tracking from the UK and they will be here within 10 days. 

 

Worth it for guaranteed females and good genetics imo. So far I have a 100% germination success rate from them.

 

I've bought seeds in Thailand and my germination success rate is > 20% for unknown genetics.

[PadPrikKhing]

Okay I scanned the thread and one thing no one seems to have mentioned, and it's critically important: ventilation. If you're growing indoors in a condo bedroom, whether you use a tent or not, you are going to need to vent the humid, CO2-depleted air out of your room. I mean that it has to go out of the building; you can't just pull it out of a tent for example and then dump it in the rest of the room next to the tent. Further, you should also have a vent to pull fresh air from outside somehow as the exhaust fan pushes humid air out. Basically you need to have two vents that go straight outside, one to dump air out of and the other to pull fresh air from (this second one is sort of optional, but you get way better growth if you have fresh air intake). In houses, for covert growing, these are often done by venting into an attic or into the crawlspace under the floor. 

 

My point is that these things are all really easy to do in a house, but very difficult to do in a condo or apartment building. How would you do ventilation? The only way I can think of when I imagine a Thai condo bedroom is that you'd have to rig something with the window(s). That doesn't sound very promising, but I don't know what your setup is. You can't cut into any walls, floors or ceilings (a common way with house grows) because you'll be cutting into the neighbor's place. You wouldn't be wise to hook into the bathroom exhaust fan duct either because you'd be blowing positive pressure into other condo units and screwing up the air paths that way.

 

Is the window in the room you're thinking of doing the grow in facing anyone else's windows? Or is it up high on a condo building so that there's no one near your windows? If other people are nearby you will really have to do a tent grow, as grow lights would be extremely bright going out your window. So how will you dump the exhaust air? If you have a condo bedroom with a sliding glass door out to a balcony, you could set something up like a board that you would mount the ducting to that would go in the gap when you closed the sliding door on it...

 

EDIT: I just remembered about the humidity in Thailand, so, actually you would not want to be taking intake air from outside, you'd be wanting to take it from inside the condo from another room, preferably one that has A/C running all the time (the air will be dry and cooler). So to pull that off, you'd need to cut a vent... that's right—a hole in the wall—from that room to another room, probably the living room.

Edited July 4, 2022 by PadPrikKhing

[rice555]

On 6/27/2022 at 5:13 PM, BritManToo said:

Rollitup forum are based in the USA, not really helpful for growers in Thailand as both the weather and available supplies are different, and/or unaffordable. 

 

Fox farm nutrients in Thailand 2,000bht for 750ml. Neem oil unavailable. Suitable organic soils unavailable. 

 

The list is endless. 

What does it matter where a forum is based? There are growers from all over the world, including Thailand.

There is a wealth of growing info. From seed to curing.

How to make OG soil mix.

You can get neem oil on Shope, also neem cake.

Below Fox Farm info found on RIU. You can run the #'s

through Hydro Buddy to get the weight of the chems you need to make your own. WESCO sells all the chems you

need. 

  

"FOX FARM GROW BIG LIQUID PLANT FOOD 6-4-4

 

Ammonium Nitrate : 96881.310 mg/l

Potassium Nitrate : 86445.360 mg/l

Mono Ammonium Phosphate : 64665.300 mg/l

Magnesium Nitrate : 62500.000 mg/l

Fe-chelated : 5555.550 mg/l

Cu-chelated : 2941.177 mg/l

Mn-chelated : 2777.780 mg/l

Zn-chelated : 2500.000 mg/l

Bo-chelated : 1333.000 mg/l

 

FOX FARM GROW BIG HYDROPONIC PLANT FOOD 3-2-6

 

Calcium Nitrate : 105236.200 mg/l

Potassium Nitrate : 72322.450 mg/l

Magnesium Nitrate : 51502.610 mg/l

Dipotassium Phosphate : 49043.890 mg/l

Fe-chelated : 5555.550 mg/l

Cu-chelated : 2941.177 mg/l

Mn-chelated : 2777.780 mg/l

Zn-chelated : 2500.000 mg/l

Bo-chelated : 1333.000 mg/l

 

FOX FARM TIGER BLOOM 2-8-4

 

Mono Ammonium Phosphate : 80590.860 mg/l

Dipotassium Phosphate : 73931.000 mg/l

Magnesium Nitrate : 52083.330 mg/l

Ammonium Nitrate : 11062.370 mg/l

Fe-chelated : 6666.670 mg/l

Cu-chelated : 2941.177 mg/l

Mn-chelated : 3333.330 mg/l

Zn-chelated : 2500.000 mg/l

Bo-chelated : 1333.000 mg/l

 

FOX FARM OPEN SESAME 5-45-19 (This is a solid blend, percentages are given)

 

 

Mono Ammonium Phosphate : 42.721%

Mono Potassium Phosphate : 40.852%

Potassium Sulfate : 11.771%

Fe-chelated : 0.883%

Mn-chelated : 0.294%

Zn-chelated : 0.265%

 

FOX FARM CHA CHING 9-50-10 (This is a solid blend, percentages are given)

 

Mono Ammonium Phosphate : 59.876%

Mono Potassium Phosphate : 30.632%

Ammonium Nitrate : 6.674%

Fe-chelated : 0.589%

Cu-chelated : 0.312%

Mn-chelated : 0.294%

Zn-chelated : 0.265%

Bo-chelated : 0.141%

 

Also, I think I screwed up on the percentages in the other solid blends listed before here. I realized I was not properly doing copy/pasta with them so I wasn't doing a sum correctly. I'll update them later, or may just on the new website." from RIU

Screen shot of Hydro Buddy.

More coir.

My micros from WESCO.

Big bag of chems

Weighing out stems.

Need a new bag of Pot Sul.

Need new bag of pot sul to finish up 3

A/B nute's kits for 3,000L.

Those that can, do.

rice555.